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Originally Posted by MagicHef
They went to 2 SBs (and lost both) in the span of 40 years before Brady. That’s definitely what I’d call a consistent winner.
I’m not saying they’re not a great team (now). I’m really only laughing at your earlier post that a great team is one that consistently wins without a great QB.
Do the Broncos get credit for going to the AFCCG with Plummer?
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I didn't say that an organization needs to win a bunch of SBs w/out a great QB to be a great organization. You inferred that.
I laid out several reasons for why I consider the Patriots a great organization. And there are more. Again, if Denver had won at an absurd level over the last 20 years, I wouldn't deny that they were a great organization. Instead, they've missed the playoffs 11 times in the last 16 years. And one of those playoff appearances was the 8-8 team led by Tebow.
IMO, if the Patriots had never drafted Brady, they'd still be considered a pretty good organization. They helped to create Brady, and Belichick would have won at a decent clip with another QB.
If the Broncos hadn't acquired Elway or Manning, I think they'd be considered a dogshit organization.