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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider
The sad thing is you think what we just gave Carr is "elite" QB money. It's above average QB money, and while he's sitting around 7th best paid right now, as other guys get their extensions, he'll quickly drop to below 10th highest paid.
I don't see anyone stating Carr is elite. I certainly have not. He is a top 10 QB, which just isn't an elite guy. He is good enough to win with though if the supporting cast is good. Our skill players around Carr are the best in the division, and it isn't even close.
Our defense, on paper anyway, has drastically improved this off season. Especially if Graham lives up to his billing at DC.
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So you've reached the third stage of grief here, eh? Wait...are we still in the first stage? Is this bargaining or denial?
Well whatever it is, you're now in the 'talking ourselves into the "fanbase try to talk themselves into overpaying for an average QB and then try to convince yourselves that he's a championship caliber guy" stage.
Because you just did it in a single paragraph.
Is your guy an elite QB? Not by your own admission. So will you be winning a championship with him? No you will not. Because in this league at this time, you are NOT winning a championship with a guy you go into the season conceding simply isn't an elite quarterback. You're especially not doing it when he's the 4th best QB in your division.
But like I said - I've been here. Everyone on this board has been here. "If we just give Alex more weapons" or "If we just give Cassel more time". Hell, "If we just give Trent Green a better defense..."
Sorry to state and sad to report that no, Derek Carr is not good enough to win with. Unless you mean win 11 games and lose in the playoffs.