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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I would argue Wilson isn't "clutch" either, at least not in recent years.
There's more upside with Wilson over Ryan in the short term. It's about whether there's more long-term upside with Ryan and a drafted QB than there is with Wilson.
Gotta think about that ceiling. Of course, Wilson has a ring so we know the ceiling is high but is that really Wilson now or does that guy really no longer exist?
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I get it... there's an argument for anything and there's an opportunity cost tied to whatever moves a team makes. I'm willing to bet that few on here had/have high aspirations for Ryan at this point in his career.
Stats are stats... they don't tell the whole story, esp with QBs.
Ryan has the most passing yards since 2015 - anyone here think that matters really compared to the others in the top 10 on this list?
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who...rds-since-2015
Ryan is 6th on passing TDs in that timeframe.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who...tds-since-2015
Ryan is 7th in wins.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/whi...ins-since-2015
Denver, by most accounts outside of this site, made the right move with trading for Wilson. They gave up players that are not hard to replace and giving up the top 2 picks in the next 2 drafts will not cripple the Broncos.
In 2022, Denver has 9 picks - still have a R2 and believe it's 4 in the top 5 rounds. So, they have the ability to acquire young playmakers and they can trade up if someone they really like (say a QB) is there in the 40-50 range.
By all accounts, few expect much from this QB class.
Ideally, as I said before all the issues hit, I would have been a fan of them trading for Watson and whatever that cost was... but, I think there's just too much baggage there right now. Good luck to CLE.
Hell, I think there are a few here that would say Denver would have been better off waiting and get either JG or Baker cheap.
At the end of the day, Russell Wilson still has a 4-6 years in him at this pace and considering the older age at which QBs are playing. 2021 was his worst year and the worst overall for SEA in the last decade. Is that a sign that Wilson is declining or done? I like the odds that he is not declining nor is he done.
And, if Denver only has Wilson at a top 10 level for 5 years - so be it. There will be other QBs. Right now, the 2023 draft is the only area where they were weakened and that's just one draft. They have done a much better job in recent years with their selections and believe they should do well in 2022.
Denver has a young team with lots of talent, now they have a QB with proven consistency and Wilson should have success with them offensively. Acquiring a Ryan, Baker, JG or similar would have been a continuation of what Denver has done since 2016. They were smart and jumped out on the Wilson opportunity quick.
Good luck to Ryan and all the rest...