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Originally Posted by stevegroganfan
Not true at all. If you look at Brady's teams defensive/offensive rank during his SB years, they are very close to each other. In really only one year was the defense far ahead of the offense.
Brady has won 7 Super Bowls and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. In all of those SB winning years except one, Patriots/Bucs have had a top 10 scoring offense. To do most of that in windy New England in the Northeast is impressive.
And in one SB game that he didn't win Super Bowl MVP, he made Deion Branch, a late 2nd round draft pick and number 2 receiver who didn't do much with the Seattle Seahawks, look like a legit #1 receiver. Patriots knew he wasn't a real #1 so they traded him.
Of the 7 Super Bowl wins within context of his teammates and the opponents, he just didn't play at least very well in one SB win and even there he came up big in the clutch. The 13-3 victory vs the Rams. Even in that game, it was more about Rams shutting down the Patriots outside receivers pretty much the entire game than Brady missing a bunch of open receivers. Brady still threw for over 260 yards despite the Patriots running the ball a lot. Patriots would not have been in the Super Bowl that year without Brady and the offense leading them to 2 victories (41-28 vs Chargers and 37-31 on the road vs the Chiefs).
In that Rams game, Brady was 0-6 throwing it to Hogan and 21-29 throwing it to everyone else. AFAIR Hogan had at least one great catch vs the Chiefs in AFC championship game so that may have led Brady/McDaniels/Belichick to have too much faith in Hogan in the SB. Hogan had several opportunities to make a big catch and just didn't in that SB. It was Hogan losing a 60/40 ball to a deflection at the start of the game which led to Brady's only interception of that game. It was Hogan's last game with the Patriots...they didn't offer him a new contract.
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Oh my. You actually believe that it was all Brady?
Super Bowl XXXVI- NE 20 - STL Rams 17
Brady wins MVP by throwing an amazing 145 yards and 1 TD. The defense generated three turnovers against the Greatest Show on Turf, one being a pick 6 and it took a game winning 48 yard field goal to win it. All Brady I guess. Mind you the Patriots were only in this SB because of the newly created that playoff game against the Raiders "Tuck Rule".
Super Bowl XXXVIII- NE 32 - CAR 29. Credit, where credit's due. Brady had a good season and a good SB.
Super Bowl XXXIX- NE 24 - Philly 21
Another SB where the NE defense stepped up by generating 4 turnovers. Brady of course put up stellar numbers with 236 yards and 2 TDs. Shocking he didn't get the MVP with that elite stat line.
Super Bowl XLIX- NE 28 - SEA 24
This SB will always go down as the one the Seahawks lost more than NE won. It was Brady's game winning INT that sealed it for them. Ooops, I mean the Butler's game winning INT. It can get hard at times not giving Brady credit for EVERYTHING.
Super Bowl LI- NE 34 - ATL 28
Yet another SB that will be remembered as much for ATL losing it as NE winning it. Credit to Brady on leading his team back. Had ATL not gone into a shell they most likely win that game, but a win is a win.
Super Bowl LIII- NE 13 - LAR 3
Yet another "dominant" performance by Brady with his 262 yards and 1 INT. I would like to give credit to the defense for shutting down the high powered Rams offense, but then I would be taking the glory from the GOAT and his elite showing. Let's also not forget the game ending INT he threw in the AFCCG that was called back because he used his superior mental abilities to cause Dee Ford to line up offside. That's just what GOATs do.
Super Bowl - LV TB 31 - KC 9
Before highlighting the epic greatness for leading the NYJ, oops, I mean JAX, silly me the talent rich TB Bucs to the SB it needs to be highlighted that Brady played poorly vs both NO and GB yet was bailed out by his defense. But since we can't give credit to anyone but the GOAT, it was all him. He was fortunate to face a KC team that had almost all backups on the O-Line and a Mahomes who was battling turf toe. If you saw how Brady dominated the KC Oline and forcing Mahomes to throw 2 INTs, it's easy to see why Brady is the GOAT. No other QB could have done this.
Simply put, Brady is a good QB and HOF bound, but a ton of his success in SBs is a product of his defense more than him. Take away the tuck rule and an offsides he has 5 SBs, of which 2-3 at most are a product of him. That is still good, but not GOAT worthy. Add in DeflateGate and SpyGate and he also has two punishable offenses on teams he has played for. It's just annoying that people polish his knob for being the beneficiary of what others did.