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Old 11-19-2021, 12:25 PM   #936
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Not true at all. If you look at Brady's teams defensive/offensive rank during his SB years, they are very close to each other. In really only one year was the defense far ahead of the offense.

Brady has won 7 Super Bowls and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. In all of those SB winning years except one, Patriots/Bucs have had a top 10 scoring offense. To do most of that in windy New England in the Northeast is impressive.

And in one SB game that he didn't win Super Bowl MVP, he made Deion Branch, a late 2nd round draft pick and number 2 receiver who didn't do much with the Seattle Seahawks, look like a legit #1 receiver. Patriots knew he wasn't a real #1 so they traded him.

Of the 7 Super Bowl wins within context of his teammates and the opponents, he just didn't play at least very well in one SB win and even there he came up big in the clutch. The 13-3 victory vs the Rams. Even in that game, it was more about Rams shutting down the Patriots outside receivers pretty much the entire game than Brady missing a bunch of open receivers. Brady still threw for over 260 yards despite the Patriots running the ball a lot. Patriots would not have been in the Super Bowl that year without Brady and the offense leading them to 2 victories (41-28 vs Chargers and 37-31 on the road vs the Chiefs).

In that Rams game, Brady was 0-6 throwing it to Hogan and 21-29 throwing it to everyone else. AFAIR Hogan had at least one great catch vs the Chiefs in AFC championship game so that may have led Brady/McDaniels/Belichick to have too much faith in Hogan in the SB. Hogan had several opportunities to make a big catch and just didn't in that SB. It was Hogan losing a 60/40 ball to a deflection at the start of the game which led to Brady's only interception of that game. It was Hogan's last game with the Patriots...they didn't offer him a new contract.
Who gives a flying ****shit about offensive ranking? Lamar Jackson had the Ravens as a top 5 offense just about every year he's been a starter. And that dude struggles to throw for 3000 yards, much less 4000 in the wild and wooly NFL of today. But at least as a RB he can tout an impressive total yardage number to justify that stat. Brady throwing for 200/game and handing it off to Bill's RB-of-the-week doesn't mean his contributing to that offensive ranking the way other QBs do.

Brady was nothing but an Alex Smith game manager for his first few years in the league. I've said before that he production he put up with Moss and Hernandez is the most impressive feat of his career. To me, that's where he has shined as an all-time great QB, not because he farted out another ring against that Rams team or because he got tuck ruled into his first championship or any of that other garbage ass bullshit he had no part in that has accounted for nearly all of his rings.

Also, I gotta laugh at "Brady made Deion Branch look like a #1 WR." Yeah, sure thing, bud. And I suppose people thought Kenbrell Tompkins was also a starting WR their teams should try to acquire because he was the #1 in New England that year. What's next? If Jakobi Meyers leaves New England at the end of his contract for a higher payday, are you going to claim that Belichick made Meyers look like a real #1 WR?

Also, what? It's more impressive to do Brady shit in New England because of weather? Yeah, then Brady goes down to Miami once a year and ****s up the game. **** off with that dumbass shit.
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