[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117

It is exactly this and Andy not knowing when to run and when not to run has been a problem with him since his days in Philly. What's maddening is that sometimes he'll pull a brilliant call out of his ass.

Unfortunately, there are far too many other times where he'll run a predictable run up the middle on 3rd and short or 4th and short like we saw in the colts game this year. Every time we have a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1, I'm nervous as hell because I don't trust Andy and I suspect a lot of other people here are nervous as well. Of course, most people won't admit that now b/c we're too focused on getting pumped to win the playoffs.

It's gotten to the point where the guy literally NEEDS the equivalent of a Marcus Allen/Barry Sanders with glue hands to make it happen in any convincing manner. Mahomes is incredible no doubt, but having Hunt( briefly )was God's gift to Reid AND Pat.

To your point on the red zone:
All I know is that prior to Mahomes, the red zone might as well have been the nosebleed section shitter for all the good it was worth. "The field goal quadrant" or "rectangle of rectumology" was as pertinent as a Timex endorsement for the head coach.

Before everyone attacks me for being an Andy-hater, I take a position in the middle in this debate. Andy is not a horrible coach, but he's not great either. He has big flaws, one of which is his running game and short yardage play calls. I also believe that we will win the super bowl despite his flaws because a lot of mediocre head coaches have won super bowls if they coach long enough and Andy does pull some great moments - we just have to hope that the great moments will outweigh the bad ones.

He might win one, who the **** knows?( no one on this site for 100%, I can guaran****ingtee THAT. )
I guess it all comes down to who do you want to hope in one hand and shit in the other with.
I wasn't a fan of the hire from day one because to me, it represented the potential return to a "new Marty era" but with an offensive-minded head coach instead.
And I'll be good and goddamned if that isn't EXACTLY what we've reaped thus far.
( and no, that's NOT a good thing )

We're it not for FINALLY drafting a ****ing QB after 30 plus years, I would have written off Clark Hunt, his vision, and his family's football enterprise two years ago without looking back, my only regret too many precious hours of my life wasted.

Originally Posted by Jimmya

From ESPN stat line "One Super Bowl is the fewest for any coach with at least 20 playoff games. Nobody has coached more career playoff games and failed to win multiple Super Bowl championships, let alone one." and that stat is a FACT!

Originally Posted by Jimmya

"In 14 seasons with the Eagles, Reid reached the NFC Championship Game five times but advanced just once. Reid's faulty time management hurt the Eagles in that Super Bowl. Trailing the Patriots by 10 points late in the game, the Eagles took almost four minutes off the clock by using a series of short passes to get a touchdown. That left them little time when they finally got the ball back, and they wound up losing by three points.

Clock management was similarly a problem for Reid and the Chiefs in a January 2016 playoff game against the Patriots. Down by 14 points, the Chiefs took 16 plays and more than five minutes to get a score.

"It seems like it always boiled down to the small details of things: time management sometimes, a wasted opportunity sometimes, a loss of a timeout in an early point of the game," longtime Eagles safety Brian Dawkins said. "Those are some of the things we would see in Philadelphia"

Dawkins nailed it and I'll take the word of a multi-year Reid player over the emotional gushings of the "Happy Playoff Time Reid m00b-Massaging Association".
I mean how the **** do you coach for that many years at that level and NOT master the details of your craft?! People who take pride in their careers and work don't play that shit. Period.

Originally Posted by staylor26

This ****ing moron literally can’t think for himself. Instead, he let’s the talking heads think for him. And he’s not even denying it, he’s flat out admitting to it.

Congratulations on being one for the dumbest mother ****ers on this board dude.

Yes, yes; no source is ever good enough when it comes to Holy McFatty. We ****ing get it already, thanks.

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, do you want Andy Reid to be the head coach of the Chiefs next season? Yes or no?

Dead.
****ing.
Serious:

Who's on the market? Would we have some legit choices?
A cow this mother****er may be, but sacred he is NOT.
Not yet anyway.

Originally Posted by staylor26

Andy Reid is the football Santa and he gave us Mahomes. How the **** can you NOT love him?

How the **** you manage to be a perpetual 12 year old "Ralphie at Christmas" about this team AND Eyeore simultaneously, is absolutely ****ing amazing.
And strange.

Originally Posted by Megatron96

So because I like to be thorough I actually went back and watched the 16-play drive from 2016 that Jimmy referenced as an example of Andy Reid's terrible play-calling/time management issues. Alex Smith is the QB. My comments are in red. And here's what I found:

1st & 10 at KC 20
(6:29 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles right end ran ob at KC 22 for 2 yards.
12 gets open at the top of his route and is just a 17 yard pass or so which could've gone for 20+; Alex elects not to throw.
2nd & 8 at KC 22
(6:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to A.Wilson (M.Butler).
17 is wide open in the middle of the field for at least 15 yards, probably more with YAC, Alex feels a little pressure from the MLB but he's picked up by the C, and scrambles to his right, throws to 12 who's covered.
3rd & 8 at KC 22
(5:52 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to C.Conley to KC 38 for 16 yards (J.Coleman).
This is actually a nice anticipation throw by Alex. Delivers the ball right after Conley makes his break.
1st & 10 at KC 38
(5:21 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to A.Wilson.
Alex throws this out of bounds. 12 never ha a chance to catch this ball.
2nd & 10 at KC 38
(5:16 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to C.Conley ran ob at KC 40 for 2 yards.
Alex completes this pass, but he takes so long to deliver it that Conley is forced to come back; should've gone for at least 10 yards, not 2.
3rd & 8 at KC 40
(4:51 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short left to K.Davis.
Alex feels pressure up the middle, bails out right and throws short at Davis.
4th & 8 at KC 40
(4:42 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to J.Avant to NE 47 for 13 yards (L.Ryan).
This is another good pass by Alex on time and well-placed.
1st & 10 at NE 47
(4:17 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles left end pushed ob at NE 38 for 9 yards (D.Hightower).
This is a head-scratcher for a couple reasons. Alex has a couple places to go with this one, and is well-protected, but opts to run for 9 yards. But if he'd tossed the ball to Davis who was right in front of him, Davis might've run for almost 20.
2nd & 1 at NE 38
(4:07 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to C.West to NE 32 for 6 yards (R.Ninkovich).

1st & 10 at NE 32
(3:30 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles left end ran ob at NE 26 for 6 yards.
(3:30 - 4th) Timeout #2 by NE at 03:30.

2nd & 4 at NE 26
(3:30 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles up the middle to NE 20 for 6 yards (J.Sheard).
No pressure. NE playing zone, Kelce is open for the first, Conley is wide open for a 20 yard gain/TD. Even 12 is open on the crosser for at least 10 yards.

1st & 10 at NE 20
(3:00 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to A.Wilson to NE 1 for 19 yards (M.Butler).
Alex finally makes the throw to the right guy, but he's late; he waits until 12 has finished his break and has to nearly stop approaching the sideline. Thrown at the break, this is a TD.
1st & Goal at NE 1
(2:33 - 4th) (No Huddle) C.West right guard to NE 2 for -1 yards (J.Sheard; D.Watson).
The rest of this is just Andy trying to work around Alex.
(2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning

2nd & Goal at NE 2
(2:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NE 2 - No Play.

2nd & Goal at NE 7
(2:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to J.Avant to NE 3 for 4 yards (L.Ryan).

3rd & Goal at NE 3
(1:22 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to J.Avant. PENALTY on NE-L.Ryan, Defensive Pass Interference, 2 yards, enforced at NE 3 - No Play.

1st & Goal at NE 1
(1:22 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short left to C.Conley.

2nd & Goal at NE 1
(1:13 - 4th) Charcandrick West 1 Yard Rush C.Santos extra point is GOOD, Center-J.Winchester, Holder-D.Colquitt.

So if you just add up the yards of the passes that Alex should've completed for the first 6 plays or so, the Chiefs should've been inside the 5-yard line or scored a TD, within 1:52-2:04 minutes. All of those were pretty easy passes for any QB of Alex's arm talent. All within 20-25 yards.

That would've left about 4:30 on the clock for the Chiefs to try and get the ball back and score again. Not a guarantee, but it would've been a chance.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Alex cocked it up either. We don't know if Wilson/Conley/Davis whoever would've caught all of those balls even if Alex had thrown them. But what I am saying is that he never gave them a chance. That's not on Andy. Or at least it's not ALL on Andy.

Sweet! An eleventy billion word dissertation just to say "Alex sucks".
Next time just say, "Alex sucks".