[crispystl]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Dude. The kid WALKED ON in college. Couldn't beat out Mahomes which is no shame, went to Oklahoma. Balled out Wins the Heisman. Got drafted by CLEVELAND. Thrust into starting right away. That's always worked out great in Cleveland, right? Throws 27 TD's/14 INT's to...who other than Landry? Now he's got OBJ.

I understand if his personality rubs you the wrong way, but all the kid's ever done is produce in the face of adversity. Having to start at QB as a rookie in ****ing Cleveland-there's no adversity greater than that in the NFL. Shit sandwich time, and once again, he balled out. He's not going anywhere.

I wouldn't trade Mahomes for any player in football, he's a generational talent. BUT-if we didn't have Mahomes, Mayfield would be the next guy on my list.

Y'all wait. We'll be playing Cleveland in a bunch of AFCCG's real soon.

I think a lot of people hate him because he's cocky; but you have to understand, since high school everybody's told him he can't play. And he just keeps proving them wrong. So he doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks. As an opponent you may hate him, but his teammates LOVE IT.

This. Peyton Manning was 26TD/28INT his rookie year. I think you're right and people (especially on here) sell Mayfield's season a bit short because it was dwarfed by Pat's.