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kccrow · 04-16-2018, 12:16 AM

Prepare thyself for book..... ok go.

As you can tell, I really don't care much about trading up into the 1st being "stupid" because it's not about how I feel about your opinion (I actually respect it), it's about what I expect will happen and Veach hinted at as much. As for the compensation, 2(54), 3(86), and 2019 3rd is the likely price. A late 3rd and a future 3rd is hardly a king's ransom to go up and get a CB the Chiefs need.

I'm gonna say this right now, you can scratch off Fitzpatrick, Ward, Alexander, Jackson, Hughes, Oliver, and Davis as being available at 54 because none of them will be. If I'm betting, none will be available outside the top 40. The Chiefs have been heavily scouting a good chunk of that group. After that group, you probably aren't getting a day 1 starter at the position except for maybe a slot guy like Dante Jackson or Parry Nickerson. Now, if you think the Chiefs should wait and trade up on day 2 into the top 40, it's still going to cost at least #86 and could possibly cost #78 depending on how high they go. At that point, you're worried about next year's 3rd being too much extra to pay and with two 2nds, I'm thinking it's a non-issue.

Now, if I do focus on the opinion part and the Chiefs sit at 54, then I wouldn't expect them to get a CB. I think S, OG, or TE would be more likely. If the Chiefs stay put, I'm beginning to think that the talent that will match the selection will lie along the offensive line, so I'd rather they get a really good offensive lineman like maybe a Frank Ragnow, Tyrell Crosby, or Braden Smith to fill that left guard slot. I wouldn't mind a ballhawk safety like Jessie Bates either. I do have to admit that I'm slightly torn myself on what I would like the Chiefs to do. I don't like the secondary as it sits, that's for sure. I really don't trust Amerson to cut it. I'll be posting my annual "what I want mock" in the coming days so you'll see what I decide on then.

To be honest, I'm not overly excited about much of the talent at 3-4 DE that could be there in round 2. I certainly am not up in arms about a Division II prospect there and much of the class is full of 4-3 NT types that can stop the run but really don't have the length and athleticism to play 4i to 5 tech. I'd rather wait on a couple of guys that might take some time to develop in the 4th round range like Jalyn Holmes, R.J. McIntosh, and so on.

04-16-2018, 12:16 AM	#9
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1050000	Prepare thyself for book..... ok go. As you can tell, I really don't care much about trading up into the 1st being "stupid" because it's not about how I feel about your opinion (I actually respect it), it's about what I expect will happen and Veach hinted at as much. As for the compensation, 2(54), 3(86), and 2019 3rd is the likely price. A late 3rd and a future 3rd is hardly a king's ransom to go up and get a CB the Chiefs need. I'm gonna say this right now, you can scratch off Fitzpatrick, Ward, Alexander, Jackson, Hughes, Oliver, and Davis as being available at 54 because none of them will be. If I'm betting, none will be available outside the top 40. The Chiefs have been heavily scouting a good chunk of that group. After that group, you probably aren't getting a day 1 starter at the position except for maybe a slot guy like Dante Jackson or Parry Nickerson. Now, if you think the Chiefs should wait and trade up on day 2 into the top 40, it's still going to cost at least #86 and could possibly cost #78 depending on how high they go. At that point, you're worried about next year's 3rd being too much extra to pay and with two 2nds, I'm thinking it's a non-issue. Now, if I do focus on the opinion part and the Chiefs sit at 54, then I wouldn't expect them to get a CB. I think S, OG, or TE would be more likely. If the Chiefs stay put, I'm beginning to think that the talent that will match the selection will lie along the offensive line, so I'd rather they get a really good offensive lineman like maybe a Frank Ragnow, Tyrell Crosby, or Braden Smith to fill that left guard slot. I wouldn't mind a ballhawk safety like Jessie Bates either. I do have to admit that I'm slightly torn myself on what I would like the Chiefs to do. I don't like the secondary as it sits, that's for sure. I really don't trust Amerson to cut it. I'll be posting my annual "what I want mock" in the coming days so you'll see what I decide on then. To be honest, I'm not overly excited about much of the talent at 3-4 DE that could be there in round 2. I certainly am not up in arms about a Division II prospect there and much of the class is full of 4-3 NT types that can stop the run but really don't have the length and athleticism to play 4i to 5 tech. I'd rather wait on a couple of guys that might take some time to develop in the 4th round range like Jalyn Holmes, R.J. McIntosh, and so on.
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