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Originally Posted by Easy 6
I dont recall you being this down on Dorsey until he was fired
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That's not true. I really didn't like the 2016 draft and called upon him to release Russell and Robinson. He did release Russell and I praised him for that but he made many, many errors during his time with the Chiefs, especially with free agency and contract values, that the decision to fire him made complete sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Easy 6
It wasnt ALL bad, was it? He gave this team direction (build through the draft primarily) hope and some exciting players along the way... yes, he clearly bungled some things and I'm not trying to excuse those
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Outside of the QB position, the Chiefs were a pretty talented team in 2013, both offensively and defensively. Dorsey's additions that year in free agency were a mixed bag: Avery, DeVito and Fasano were "okay" additions, Dunta Robinson was awful. Eric Fisher, drafted as a left tackle, was a disaster on the right side and Kelce didn't contribute due to a knee injury.
For the most part, Reid coached up the existing players.
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Originally Posted by Easy 6
And come on... no closer to the big one than the 2-14 murder/suicide? If for nothing else, he deserves our everlasting gratitude for Mahomes
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The decision to draft Mahomes wasn't driven by one person. Veach scouted him hard, brought him to Reid, who visited Texas Tech and met with the peeps on campus. Dorsey was no where to be found.
And yes, barring some unforeseen miracle, this team is no closer to a Super Bowl in 2017 than they were in 2012. Houston and Berry will soon be on the wrong side of 30, Hali is done, the receiving corp, outside of Hill now that Conley's gone, is meh at best, etc. and so on.
Veach could find three legit, immediate impact rookies next year and the Chiefs would still need ridiculous play from the QB and defense to push for a Super Bowl.
That's a lot to ask, especially minus a first round pick.
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Originally Posted by Easy 6
Veach may have found him, and pushed for him... but the decision to make a huge move for him ultimately rests with Dorsey
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From all reports, it was a decision made by Dorsey, Hunt and Reid. And while I expect Mahomes to have a great career, he still hasn't played a single down in the NFL, so the jury is out.