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Old 09-25-2017, 10:36 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
I'm a bit older than you, which is maybe why I don't have the admiration for Charles as you and younger Chiefs fans, but Charles didn't lead the Chiefs to anything during his time in KC.

Losing season after losing season, injury after injury. He was out on the first series in Indy back 2013, wasn't nearly as effective in 2014 and was invisible in 2015 and 2016, except when he fumbled against Denver, which handed them the #1 seed overall that season. Had he not fumbled, the Chiefs would have likely had the #1 overall seed and the results could have been far, far, different.

I associate Christian Okoye with winning. I associate Marcus Allen with winning. I associate Priest Holmes with winning.

I associate Jamaal Charles with losing.
There isn't anything to disagree with there. And I'd agree that injuries tarnish his legacy significantly. But prime Charles was still a ridiculous talent. The fact that he was able to get what he got on those historically bad teams is incredible. He ran into 9 man fronts every game until Reid got here and still put up all time numbers.

Beyond all the crap though, his vision, speed, quickness in cuts was flat out elite. And the fact that he could squirt through a crack consistently was miraculous.

I get the losing but I think you could have given Squirmin Herman Motherfuciing Sack of **** Edwards Peyton Manning in his prime and he'd still bumble on about how 3 bad things can happen if you throw the football or whatever it was. Losing was happening in those years despite how talented any one guy was IMO.

I don't really have a dog in the fight, I'm just amazed by what Jamaal did on those garbage teams.

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