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Originally Posted by stumppy
Yes they do. I think the one that gets me the most is a dog with an embedded collar. I want to stomp someones ass when I see anything like that. I mean a person has to sit there and watch it happen day by day without doing anything about it.
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Yeah, the collar we got was tough enough. She's been shocked once accidentally, and that made me feel bad enough. The vibrate and tone work just fine for off-leash training...
And like I told my down the street neighbor who though shocking them was NBD, he should try it (and I knew he had), and when he said OK, I said "around the neck"! He declined!