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Originally Posted by keg in kc
The nature of the thread is simply to provide a place to discuss this stuff. I post what I find interesting or entertaining but my interest should never be confused with belief in any particular thing. If you have some conflicting information for anything feel free to post it. Wouldn't be much of a discussion without different viewpoints.
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I appreciate the sentiment. But I don't really have much desire to be the debunking guy that shits on the thread contents, despite the urge with some of these topics. That's a surefire way for the thread to get stupid. Plus scott's head might actually explode.
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
Regarding the manual, if I remember right Berliner was ambivalent about them from the very beginning. There's been a pretty heavy effort to debunk them all along, as well as work to ascertain their provenance.
I tend to think of them much like the mj-12 docs: they're probably fake, with some snippets of real information in them. I think, for example, there was a group much like that outlined in the mj-12 docs, including the rumored members, but it was called something else.
I think there's a combination of disinformation by people like Doty and Moore, which includes some kernels of truth and some few real whistleblowers.
The story behind the manual seems very far fetched, some unknown individual taking pictures of them and then getting them developed at a pharmacy, or however it goes.
But on the flip side if they are fake then who, how and why? Just to **** with Berliner, try to pull one over on ufo nuts? To try to make some cash? Seems like an awful lot of work for no real payoff.
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The most popular of the debunkers have said that it was a misinformation thing. To me, it feels really fake. Like it was written with a very different audience in mind than military investigators. It had a bunch of useless info that you wouldn't expect.
Why would anybody go to the work of doing it? Same reason idiots go out in ape gear and make fake Bigfoot sightings.