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RunKC 01-20-2025 01:22 PM

RB has an argument for being our biggest team need
 
Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

Dante84 01-20-2025 02:18 PM

I know we won't be in range of a Jahmyr Gibbs level talent (aka Jamaal Charles), nor should that position be our first round selection, but you're right - an explosive running back would completely change this offense.

We seem to have solved our short-yardage issue from 2023, but we need someone with burst to turn a 2 yard run into a 7+ yard run. We don't have that.

We've been trying to manufacture some of this with Worthy, but the issue with him is that he goes down on first contact every time because he's 160 pounds.

I'd love to see Mahomes operate with a RB with elite burst.

smithandrew051 01-20-2025 02:46 PM

Luckily, it’s a position that can be fixed relatively quickly.

Rookie RBs can contribute right away. There’s seemingly always a free agent RB who becomes a steal for someone.

I’m sure Pacheco will be back. Add a mid round back (Devin Neal remains my guy). Snag a free agent.

Of course, if a top back falls to us earlier in the draft, I wouldn’t hate it.

Hoover 01-20-2025 03:25 PM

This draft is full of good options. Just have to use one of our top 4 picks on one of them.

Mephistopheles Janx 01-20-2025 03:45 PM

IMO... OT is far and away the team's most urgent need. G becomes a major question mark if Trey Smith walks in FA. Protecting Mahomes and giving him time to throw is more important than finding an RB.

Pacheco, for as much as I love the dude, has next to no vision and loves stuffing his helmet into the back of one of his linemen. That said, he is still young enough that he can be taught and improve. But he definitely needs a counterpart... a lightning to his thunder. Either FA or the 3rd round will provide the RB.

Focus on the OL.

Icon 01-20-2025 04:01 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see use our 2nd round pick or the early round 3 pick from the Titans for Sneed on a RB. Should be some good ones available then.

chop 01-20-2025 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17925835)
IMO... OT is far and away the team's most urgent need. G becomes a major question mark if Trey Smith walks in FA. Protecting Mahomes and giving him time to throw is more important than finding an RB.

Pacheco, for as much as I love the dude, has next to no vision and loves stuffing his helmet into the back of one of his linemen. That said, he is still young enough that he can be taught and improve. But he definitely needs a counterpart... a lightning to his thunder. Either FA or the 3rd round will provide the RB.

Focus on the OL.


I believe you don't box yourself in by saying I can't get a particular player before a particular round. If a RB is there in round two that makes your team better than a G or T, then you take the RB. Lions took Gibbs in round 1 and they already signed Montgomery and it has worked out greatly for them. Now they have a good O-Line so maybe it's not a fair comparison but if you can get a player that has that effect on your team, you grab him.

Hoover 01-20-2025 04:45 PM

The LT issues is perplexing. Very complicated because there is no clear cut solution.

If we're being honest, I'd get in my time machine and go back and pay Orlando Brown Jr the 4 year 64M dollar deal he signed with the Bengals. He's not perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than what we've been doing the last two years.

If you can fix it in the draft you have to pull the trigger. Long term, that's the best option. My fear is that it will be difficult for the Chiefs to move around and get the guy they want. Also making life difficult is the fact that this draft has some nice talent at positions of need. DT, RB, Edge, L etc. Not sure I want to spend draft capital moving up. But with Arch Manning out there, I wonder if you could dangle our 2026 first rounder in exchange for something. I don't know. Seems a little too video game for me to understand.

Couch-Potato 01-20-2025 08:00 PM

I’m sold, let’s trade up for Jeanty!

BWillie 01-20-2025 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17925600)
Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

Resign Kareem Hunt for peanuts.

Problem solved.

Only need to run the ball for short yardage or when winning by two scores anyway.

DJJasonp 01-20-2025 08:33 PM

Going to submit a different opinion….i think our run scheme sucks.

Especially in short yardage when we’re in shotgun.

Palangi 01-20-2025 08:35 PM

I like Dylan Sampson (Tennessee), Jordan James (Oregon), or Quinshon Judkins (Ohio State) with out second round pick

Couch-Potato 01-20-2025 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17926298)
Resign Kareem Hunt for peanuts.

Problem solved.

Only need to run the ball for short yardage or when winning by two scores anyway.

I’d like to resign Hunt as well, but you still need to add a young back to replace him and probably Pachecco the following year.

There’s a lot to like this year! A few I like that I’ll throw out are Johnson, Henderson, Sampson, Harvey, & Smith.

BWillie 01-20-2025 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17926319)
I’d like to resign Hunt as well, but you still need to add a young back to replace him and probably Pachecco the following year.

There’s a lot to like this year! A few I like that I’ll throw out are Johnson, Henderson, Sampson, Harvey, & Smith.

Some 5th or 6th rounder will do

Chris Meck 01-20-2025 09:11 PM

RB is a need, but there is no need greater than Left Tackle.


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