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RunKC 11-19-2024 11:35 AM

Chiefs will need to adjust and figure this out
 
Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the cutups of the plays where Patrick Mahomes was listed as pressured. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/nmJWOrom9T">pic.twitter.com/nmJWOrom9T</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1858711424446484932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.

Sassy Squatch 11-19-2024 11:38 AM

LMAO Jesus ****, Pat.

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Mecca 11-19-2024 11:40 AM

That is literally that exact same shit the Chargers did to trick him into bailing out of the pocket, he takes the bait every single god damn time.

King_Chief_Fan 11-19-2024 11:43 AM

C'mon Pat...smarten up

Mecca 11-19-2024 11:44 AM

I don't know what the fix is there other than to tell a QB who very blatantly does not trust his OL that he has to trust his OL.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-19-2024 11:48 AM

All you can do is hope he figures it out.

Maybe it just doesn't happen this year though. There are seasons besides the three-peat season.

BWillie 11-19-2024 11:50 AM

He's scared to take hits and step up into the pocket.

RunKC 11-19-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17814808)
I don't know what the fix is there other than to tell a QB who very blatantly does not trust his OL that he has to trust his OL.

Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.

Mecca 11-19-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814830)
Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.

When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.

Hammock Parties 11-19-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17814816)
He's scared to take hits and step up into the pocket.

This place is ****ing unbearable LMAO

O.city 11-19-2024 12:06 PM

He doesn't step up in the pocket much at all.

dirk digler 11-19-2024 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17814833)
When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.

I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc

RunKC 11-19-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17814838)
He doesn't step up in the pocket much at all.

Are we watching the same thing?? The pocket is getting pushed into Mahomes face and Ed Oliver is winning right up the middle.

That’s a big problem

Mecca 11-19-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17814840)
I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc

Because they are stubborn and want to run their offense...

I honestly think if they would come out and show a bunch of base under center stuff, run the ball, do screens, 3 step drops, slants etc it would make defenses play us a alot differently.

O.city 11-19-2024 12:10 PM

Sure, they got beat some inside.

If he's not gonna have confidence in the front, we're kinda drawing dead here.


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