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Dante84 10-09-2020 10:41 AM

Spin-Off: Reiter & Wylie need to get better, or GTFO
 
Spinning off because we need a bright light being shown on these assholes immediately. They've been riding our offense's coattails for too long and are overstaying their welcome.

They are going to get Patrick killed either by letting someone come free up the middle directly, or by forcing him to drift back and get crushed by an edge rusher who doesn't have to bend.

They are stifling Clyde's opportunities by getting thrown in the way.

Getting beat by single dudes in pass rush, getting walked back into our RB lanes when Run blocking... Not Okay.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pretty crazy stats courtesy of <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PFF</a>:<br><br>This season, Clyde has averaged 6.6 ypc and has EIGHT 10+ yard runs when rushing towards the left side of the OL. His only TD was that direction as well.<br><br>To the right.. 2.7 ypc , ZERO 10+ yard runs<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Ron Kopp Jr. (@Ron_Kopp) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ron_Kopp/status/1314571665326714881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Are you ****ing kidding me with this rep:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Poor Kelce gets laid out by the end on his route. Still trying to figure out who a two player rush gets that much pressure to force Mahomes to throw it early. Otherwise might be a walk in TD there with another second or two. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/bLh2SHKHHN">pic.twitter.com/bLh2SHKHHN</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314592516948340743?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


"Sorry, Clyde, can't go left here, I'm coming through..."


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelce frustrated with himself here for not pulling up into the hole and taking on 51. Ideally you want to see CEH potentially bounce this one outside. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/1uLqbUrxre">pic.twitter.com/1uLqbUrxre</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314598441180430337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patriots run a cross fire. Wylie can’t get the inside shoulder. His defender gets off the block. Reiter’s defender gets off his block. 50 sets the edge on Keizer forcing the run back inside. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/fHcALIcHfU">pic.twitter.com/fHcALIcHfU</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314591387879452673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wylie and Yelder had some run blocking issues here. CEH already having to spin by the time he gets the handoff. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/5iPA41y95s">pic.twitter.com/5iPA41y95s</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314600929782648833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Compare that to the Left Side:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fisher and Osemele create a hole. Awesome backside cut by Kelce. Like to see Keizer get some push so CEH has more room to work. One of the better blocked runs of the night. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ro94XwNt42">pic.twitter.com/Ro94XwNt42</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314597782020382720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The down block by Osemele and Fisher is crucial here. The open up the whole play. They knock 91 into a new zip code and create the whole for CEH to follow through. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/ahqXSoepl4">pic.twitter.com/ahqXSoepl4</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1314593877710561281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 10-09-2020 10:45 AM

I think we’ve all known this for awhile.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-09-2020 10:47 AM

Schwartz is sucking ass too. Fisher > Schwartz

DJ's left nut 10-09-2020 10:49 AM

I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

duncan_idaho 10-09-2020 10:54 AM

It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15230717)
It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

Remmers has ZERO athleticism. And with Osemele being a stiff on the other side, if you have 2 guards that essentially cannot pull, you're removing a lot of stuff from your arsenal.

Remmers is well suited to be the backup G/T on this squad but I really don't think we want him starting for us. Guy just doesn't move well enough.

Dante84 10-09-2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15230717)
It sure looked like Remmers made them better and more physical at RG. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Wylie had another injury so we could see what it looked like without Wylie for a while.

Schwartz looks to have lost a little physical ability, potentially. Not quite as powerful. He's also been burned by some of Mahomes' drifting back in the pocket.

Which might be a product of his neighbors sucking ass

dirk digler 10-09-2020 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15230703)
I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

I would really like to see what Ricky can do.

Chief Roundup 10-09-2020 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15230703)
I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

Yet the likes of Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy have him ahead of Yelder and RSJ.

OKchiefs 10-09-2020 11:49 AM

Not shocking, just like with linebacker you can't really expect them to be great when you invest little on the position and count on journeyman types. Just hope it doesn't get Mahomes injured again. The one investment we did have at the position probably should have told the team he wasn't committed to playing this year before we drafted him, and I personally don't see how you can put much confidence in him going forward.

Dunerdr 10-09-2020 11:53 AM

Well thats it, time to convert Brandon Albert to guard.

Pitt Gorilla 10-09-2020 11:55 AM

I made a similar thread about a year ago. Wylie got hurt and Reiter improved a ton. I just don’t think Wylie is very good at all.

Pitt Gorilla 10-09-2020 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15230703)
I remain extremely confused as to the presence of Nick Keizer on this roster.

I mean what the !@#$ is it that he does well? He's routinely awful. Can't do anything in the pattern our out in space. Can't block. Manages to take long plays away from Kelce by reaching for balls that aren't his.

He's really friggen bad. I don't think we need for TEs on this roster and we definitely don't need 3 plus whatever POS boat anchor Keizer is.

I posted about this the other day. I think they saw him as their Blake Bell replacement. So far, he can’t even do that.

MahomesMagic 10-09-2020 11:58 AM

Kansas City has not invested resources at Guard Center Guard.

Because we have Mahomes and all these weapons it is often masked but it is a weakness.

DRM08 10-09-2020 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15230904)
Kansas City has not invested resources at Guard Center Guard.

Because we have Mahomes and all these weapons it is often masked but it is a weakness.

OL needs to become more of a priority pretty soon, hopefully starting with the 2021 Draft. Fisher & Schwartz are good, but they're getting older and won't be around forever. Middle of the OL is a problem as we all know.


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