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mr. tegu 12-08-2019 07:03 PM

Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?
 
Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?

TLO 12-08-2019 07:05 PM

We just beat the Patriots.

In their house.

In December.

mr. tegu 12-08-2019 07:05 PM

Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?
 
Well if his hand was more hurt than they let on then that certainly is a factor because I was expecting us to unleash the offense this week thinking we had been perhaps holding back lately.

Hammock Parties 12-08-2019 07:05 PM

Two wins in NE in three years.

Reid is special.

jd1020 12-08-2019 07:07 PM

I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

PHOG 12-08-2019 07:07 PM

He's getting X-rays on his hand, he couldn't grip the ball, per Reid.

BWillie 12-08-2019 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14643801)
Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?

The good news could be....he has matured and when a really really good Patriots defense didn't allow people to get open he didn't bite off more than he could chew.

Devil's advocate...he's questioning himself ever since the knee injury and he's becoming a little gunshy.

TLO 12-08-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14643842)
I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

We won.

BWillie 12-08-2019 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14643842)
I'm going to hope the offense is ugly because Mahomes isn't 100% but then I remember what happened in the playoffs vs the Colts and Titans. Reid is just a soft bitch when he gets a lead.

When the Patriots were running up the score on everyone when they went 16-0 Belichick's response was "stop us." Reid needs more of that attitude but its been 20 years, it's not coming.

Yes, it's frustrating. A schematic offensive genius. A clock management and tactical buffoon, at least at times.

jd1020 12-08-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14643848)
We won.

That doesn't change how ugly the offense was in the 2nd half with a 2 score lead and the ball to start the half.

comochiefsfan 12-08-2019 07:09 PM

Mahomes has not been good lately. I think he’ll bounce back but the longer he struggles the more I’m afraid Andy might be ruining him.

Chief Roundup 12-08-2019 07:10 PM

Uh no Reid is still part of what is broken.

Deberg_1990 12-08-2019 07:11 PM

We don’t have a run game and our pass blocking is mostly atrocious

Can’t be fixed this season

Pasta Little Brioni 12-08-2019 07:12 PM

Reid told Kelce to run backwards and fumble?

mlyonsd 12-08-2019 07:12 PM

Reid hasn't fixed the shooting ourselves in the foot syndrome.


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