So Mahomes and Mayfield are both legit
 

People make fun of the Big 12 not playing Defense but these two guys are good and can shred NFL Defenses.
It also shows you that you can win National titles in college without elite QB talent but in the NFL you can forget winning the bowl without one.

They both look pretty good so far

Mayfield isn't as polished or comfortable, but that is to be expected

Mayfield is going to be reallllly good, wouldn’t be shocked if he were a top-5 QB moving forward.

He’s lightyears away from Mahomes, but so is every other upcoming QB in the league not named Mahomes

Jesus, you guys need to pump the brakes on Mayfield.

He’s showing some flashes, but the guy has in no way proven that he’s legit.

Stop putting him and Mahomes in the same conversation.

Mayfield is the new Johnny Football until proven otherwise.

Well this is the board that blew it's load watching Derek Carr a few years ago.

Mayfield isn’t as good and he’s less athletic but still those are two Big12 guys who weren’t overly heralded. Also, if you compare Derek Carr to Mayfield, welp, he looks better.

When you've been watching Alex Smith and Matt Cassell for almost 10 years, every 6 starts to look like a 10.

I think he will be good overall, but I want to see him against an actual pass rush. He hasn't faced one yet. Gruden has been crying all season that the Raiders have no pass rush after he traded away Mack. The Jets didn't look good in this regard either.

Mayfield punking the Fade would be a nice bonus.

Who is this Smiff you speak of?

Not much to go on, but so far he’s been very impressive for a rookie QB.

He sucks

Bad int by Mayfield...Not in Mahomes league right now...

He’s not Mahomes but he’s a Big12 guy. That’s the point.