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BossChief 04-11-2016 12:18 PM

Let's have a discussion about 2017.
 
As it currently sits, KC sits with 24m in cap space (according to overthecap and that doesn't include Ware/Wests deals) without Fisher, Poe or Berry under contract.

The team needs to either pick up Fishers 11.9m option (for 2017) by May 2nd iirc or decide to let him walk.

Fletcher Cox is turning down a 100m deal with 60 guaranteed...that impacts any negotiation KC is having with Poe...not sure how much, though.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the negotiations with Berry, too. Not too many safeties getting crazy money. I wonder what Berrys side is asking for and using as their leverage.

Eric Fisher is improving, but 12m is a lot of money.

Some big changes are on the horizon and I wouldn't be surprised if KC loses 1 or 2 of those guys.

The Franchise 04-11-2016 01:49 PM

What does Cox's contract have to do with Poe's contract? Cox doesn't play NT in a 3-4 defense.

Chief Roundup 04-11-2016 01:54 PM

Poe's agent will saying he deserves to be paid like one of the best Interior DL in the league whether that is DT or NT is going to be irrelevant.

O.city 04-11-2016 01:57 PM

Sign berry and fisher, tag poe twice then let him walk.

the Talking Can 04-11-2016 01:58 PM

doubt we keep poe and berry...draft might have some clues

fisher should give us a discount for being such a worthless pussy for 2 years, but that's not how it works..

Meatloaf 04-11-2016 02:06 PM

If Berry won't accept the Chiefs' offer, I'd let him walk next year. Yes, he's good, but as several have suggested, he's not exactly a playmaker type guy. Good, yes. Solid tackler, yes. Great cover guy, nope. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if we took a safety with our first pick this year in preparation for Berry's eventual departure.

Eleazar 04-11-2016 02:08 PM

Re-sign Fisher, Poe plays through franchise tags then walks, re-sign Berry only if it's cap-friendly.

Meatloaf 04-11-2016 02:12 PM

As per Fisher, I'd work like the dickens to get him signed, sealed and delivered this year. As you'll recall, once he settled in at left tackle, our OL started playing with some authority. Gotta have an anchor at left tackle, and Fisher provides that.

As per Poe, I'd see how his back holds up this season. A guy that big with apparent back problems is concerning. To me, this one is a very difficult call. I'd sure want to know more about his back condition before I inked him to a huge contract.

O.city 04-11-2016 02:15 PM

Fifth year option fisher and try to sign him to a cap friendly deal

pugsnotdrugs19 04-11-2016 02:46 PM

I use to worry about these things, but now I just kinda assume Dorsey will get shit done and I don't even think about it.

Get the Berry deal done before this year, and then 5th year option Fish/or extend him. Then, you could tag Poe if you had to.

BossChief 04-11-2016 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 12173104)
doubt we keep poe and berry...draft might have some clues

fisher should give us a discount for being such a worthless pussy for 2 years, but that's not how it works..

Did you catch the interview of John Dorsey from a couple weeks ago?

He basically said they drafted Fisher with full understanding that his first 2 years were going to be bad and that he would start to get it in his third year if things go according to plan...

I thought that was a bit crazy to hear...they just saw that whole draft as crap.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-11-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12173249)
Did you catch the interview of John Dorsey from a couple weeks ago?

He basically said they drafted Fisher with full understanding that his first 2 years were going to be bad and that he would start to get it in his third year if things go according to plan...

I thought that was a bit crazy to hear...they just saw that whole draft as crap.

Crap it was.... but damn if they didn't make it happen in the 3rd round with Kelce. I still remember hearing his name called and thinking, huh? Then, like with every player who we take, I looked up some video on him and proceeded to get an erection.

BossChief 04-11-2016 04:09 PM

I still feel Berry owes this franchise to negotiate a somewhat team friendly deal.

They paid him over 5m they didn't have to while on NFI...that wasn't a "business move"...that was a "we care about Eric Berry" move.

The absolute least that should get KC is good will.

I'd really like to know where the 2 sides are..

staylor26 04-11-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12173249)
Did you catch the interview of John Dorsey from a couple weeks ago?

He basically said they drafted Fisher with full understanding that his first 2 years were going to be bad and that he would start to get it in his third year if things go according to plan...

I thought that was a bit crazy to hear...they just saw that whole draft as crap.

Which interview was this?

I wouldn't doubt if that's the same case with Ford.

BossChief 04-11-2016 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12173269)
Crap it was.... but damn if they didn't make it happen in the 3rd round with Kelce. I still remember hearing his name called and thinking, huh? Then, like with every player who we take, I looked up some video on him and proceeded to get an erection.

I'm batting pretty nicely on that draft class from my impressions of everybody from my time at camp.

I totally missed on Knile Davis (he looked very impressive in camp) but other than that I said Kelce had probowl potential, that Fisher sucked terribly (I killed the guy based on just 1 on 1 drills when he was getting worked by everyone, even Austen Lane that was absolutely horrible.) and that Tyler Bray had the nicest deep ball I'd seen in camp,..but not much else...very raw.

Dorsey has been very solid in the draft.


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