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Mile High Mania 03-09-2010 02:50 PM

Broncos sign DE Jarvis Green
 
DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

lostcause 03-09-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6589756)
DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

All I know is that Scott Pioli is currently pissed he had to deal with Thomas Jones and Fargas in KC today and missed his chance to sign Green.

Amnorix 03-09-2010 03:01 PM

Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

BigChiefFan 03-09-2010 03:03 PM

Pretty good pick-up, IMO.

Bane 03-09-2010 03:03 PM

Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2010 03:05 PM

Yeah, I agree.... if they have thoughts of him being a full-time starter, then I think expectations should be tempered a bit. Overall, I don't have any problems at all with the structure of the deal and at 31... he's still young enough, there are a couple of good years left in his tank.

Mile High Mania 03-09-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6589794)
Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

ROFL Ok...

Garcia Bronco 03-09-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6589786)
Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

He'll have Elvis behind him on passing downs...and Dummervil.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-09-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6589756)
DE Jarvis Green's deal with Denver: Four years, max value of $20 million, $4.5 million in first year of deal and $7.5 million in first two.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also

Ok, so he's 31 years old... had knee surgery in 2009, missing 3 games and is a former Patriot. Personally, I have not paid that much attention to the guy... so, what says you?

That is a piss awful contract.

JD10367 03-09-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6589786)
Well, who knows what he'll do now that he's 31 and is coming off knee surgery. I can tell you that for the Patriots he was a very solid situational player, in particular a pass rusher off the 3-4 DE position, and spot starter.

He was, easily, the best DL pass rusher the Patriots had during the last 8 or whatever years we've had him. He also had an eye for the spotlight, with many key sacks in the playoffs, etc. IIRC, he had three sacks of Manning in an AFCC game 5 or 6 years ago.

As the Patriots defensive backfield has struggled, so have his sack numbers (perhaps unsurprisingly) in the last few years. You can look at him as a very good situational player / superb backup, or an ok starter. He's not going to excite anyone really as a full time starter, especially in the 3-4, as he's a little light for the position and may wear down over time.

This.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6589898)
That is a piss awful contract.

And this. That's a lot of jack for a guy over 30 coming off injury who was never a starter. I would've been happy if he'd stayed, but for that kind of dough, meh.

easymobee 03-09-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6589794)
Looks like panic mode for McFistpump and the Donks.Text book win now signings,that indicate his ass in on the line to produce since he choked like a crack whore last season.

If Green is a win now panic signing. What is Vrabel? A win 5 yrs ago panic signing?
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Amnorix 03-09-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6589921)
And this. That's a lot of jack for a guy over 30 coming off injury who was never a starter. I would've been happy if he'd stayed, but for that kind of dough, meh.

IIRC, he was a very highly paid backup/spot starter for us. For example, he was the 6th highest paid Patriot in 2009 in terms of cap number. $1MM roster bonus, $2.5MM salary and $600K pro rated signing bonus.

http://www.patscap.com/2009capinfo.html

DaFace 03-09-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6589898)
That is a piss awful contract.

Yeah, that's my only thought. Seems like a decent addition in certain situations, but that's a lot of dough. Still, I'd take a little minor overspending over what we've done so far.

EDIT: I hadn't seen the Thomas Jones news yet.

easymobee 03-09-2010 04:16 PM

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T-post Tom 03-09-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by easymobee (Post 6589979)
If Green is a win now panic signing. What is Vrabel? A win 5 yrs ago panic signing?
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