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EyePod 03-11-2009 09:07 AM

Cassel > Cutler by Mel Kiper Jr.
 
Tuesday with Mel Kiper Jr.

Mel says Cassel is better than Cutler


<!-- end mod-article-title --> <!-- begin story body --> <!-- isa photo --><!-- isa photo --><!-- template inline -->This week, Jay Cutler's moaning has distracted Mel Kiper Jr. from his usual draft content. "Talk about whining and complaining -- this is at the top of the list," Kiper says.
Kiper: Cassel > Cutler

Cutler's complaining came about because the Denver Broncos tried to trade Cutler in a three-team deal that would have brought over Matt Cassel from New England. But when the trade fell through, Cutler started to complain. <!-- INLINE NFL.com Video (BEGIN) -->

<!-- INLINE NFL.com Video (END) --> Kiper says Cassel would have been an "upgrade" over Cutler and that Cutler is, to put it mildly, overrated. "[Cutler] throws one pass, he's a Hall of Famer," Kiper says. "I've seen the media put him in the Hall of Fame. I had to run to the bathroom quick. It was making me ill. I've been hearing this overhype. "This guy was overhyped at the combine, he was overhyped at Senior Bowl week, he's been overhyped before he was drafted. The media, they love Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler can do no wrong. I've been saying he's overrated since day one. Everyone's been pounding their chests saying, 'Oh, I love Jay Cutler, I'm a genius.' They have egg on their face now." Kiper points out that Cutler has yet to lead the Broncos to a winning record or a playoff appearance. Also, Kiper says, "[Cutler] makes throws that leave you scratching your head, which I said on draft day when he was picked. Yeah, he's got a strong arm, but my daughter knew he had a strong arm. She could've written that report."

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<!-- end podcast --> Kiper compares Cutler to Jeff George. "Jeff George had a great arm, and Jeff George had a lot of great games in this league, and people were putting Jeff George in the HOF early in his career," Kiper says. "So I'm just telling you, this is ridiculous." Also, Cutler once said he had a better arm than John Elway. Not surprisingly, Kiper isn't a big fan of that comment, either. "So what? Who cares? Why would you make a comparison to John Elway? That could be taken like you're in a position to critique the quarterback that is a legend."
Cornerbacks


Back to discussing the draft. "There isn't that one true shutdown cornerback available this year," Kiper says. "And after the subpar 40 times run by the defensive backs at the combine workout, this position isn't really as strong or as deep as originally anticipated." Michael Jenkins, Ohio State: "Jenkins is barely maintaining his spot as the No. 1 cornerback," Kiper says. Although Kiper points out that Jenkins "brings a ton of experience and sound technique to the position," he ran a 4.55 40-yard dash at the combine, which makes Kiper worry whether he's worthy of first-round consideration. Vontae Davis, Illinois: Davis is on Jenkins' heels as the top cornerback in this class. But "he lacks the necessary consistency and is still a work in progress," Kiper says. "But physically, he has the awesome physical talent you look for to warrant a first-round grade." D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt: Kiper says he has impressive cover skills, good return skills, smooth hips and good ball skills, but he lacks good recovery speed. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest: "The 5-9, 193-pounder would be a first-round lock if he were a few inches taller and a bit faster," Kiper says. Darius Butler, Connecticut: Butler is a multiskilled athlete with outstanding recovery speed, Kiper says. Butler also saw action on offense, with nine receptions, and is a solid kick returner.

Underrated: Donald Washington, Ohio State:
Washington left school early, a move that many people questioned, but Kiper says he is a solid second-rounder and will draw consideration in the latter portion of Round 1. "He has the physical skills you look for," Kiper says.

Others with early-round potential Safeties

Because USC's Taylor Mays opted to return to school, there isn't a true star at safety in this draft, Kiper says. William Moore, Missouri: After his junior season, in which he made eight interceptions, he was considered a first-round pick. But Kiper says a foot injury early in his senior season caused him to have just one pick last season. However, he ran an "impressive" 4.5-second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine. "He could turn out to be a steal in Round 2," Kiper says. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan: "A true ball hawk at free safety." Rashad Johnson, Alabama: "Had a spectacular year in the SEC, evidenced by his three-interception performance against LSU back in early November," Kiper says. He adds that Johnson is smart and instinctive, with his only weakness being a lack of ideal size (5-foot-11, 202 pounds). Others with early-round potential Outside linebackers

"While there are several high-profile inside linebackers, there's no question the outside linebacker spot is much better when it comes to talent and overall depth," Kiper says. He predicts that as many as four outside linebackers could be chosen in Round 1 of the draft. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest: Curry is the top player on Kiper's draft board. The multidimensional linebacker gets "high grades in all aspects of outside linebacker play." Kiper says he is destined to be a perennial Pro Bowler. Brian Cushing, USC: Kiper says Cushing is able to perform effectively in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme. Also, he is more "proven and battle-tested" than his teammate Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews, USC: Matthews is in the Mike Vrabel mold and excels as a pass-rusher, Kiper reports. He is rocketing up draft boards after one season as a starter at USC. Larry English, Northern Illinois: "He was a force to be reckoned with with the Huskies." Clint Sintim, Virginia: "He has the talent and wingspan to operate on his feet or shift to a down defensive end position." He likely will be drafted in the second round. Inside linebackers

Rey Maualuga, USC: "He ranks as one of the hardest-hitting tacklers you will ever come across." James Laurinaitis, Ohio State: "He isn't flashy and lacks awesome computer numbers, but he gets extremely high grades in the consistency department." Kiper believes he needs to be protected by quality defensive tackle play. Others with early-round potential T.O.'s replacement?

With Terrell Owens gone, Kiper thinks Roy Williams will have to step up and be the No. 1 receiver in Dallas. "When he was at [the University of] Texas, he had great talent -- he flashed it time and time again." But Kiper believes Williams needs to be more assertive. "Don't be necessarily T.O. or Randy Moss. But you've got to go out there and have a little bit of an attitude -- a little chip on your shoulder," Kiper says. So who will play opposite Williams? Kiper says the Cowboys could find a quick slot receiver in the second round, like Brian Robiskie from Ohio State or Juaquin Iglesias from Oklahoma. Or they could roll the dice and go for Pat White from West Virginia, a quarterback whom many teams view as a wide receiver. Kiper says White could be the next Antwaan Randle El. But those are the Cowboys' options only if Hakeem Nicks (North Carolina) and Kenny Britt (Rutgers) are off the board by the time the Cowboys make their first pick of the draft in Round 2.








LOL. Cutler fans have egg on their face.... hahaha what a great insult.

EyePod 03-11-2009 09:23 AM

Oh, here's the article link:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...ory?id=3966885

I love how Kiper really lays it into Cutler. Like he's a Jeff George... man, if Whitlock reads this, he's going to want us to go after Cutler now!

Kerberos 03-11-2009 09:23 AM

This offseason just keeps getting better and better.

I hope "BOB" posts this over at the mange.

EyePod 03-11-2009 09:23 AM

LOL. I just love how KC is on the lips of everyone. Pioli is a marketing guru.

the Talking Can 03-11-2009 09:28 AM

Cassel > Cutler by McDaniels

ChiefRon 03-11-2009 09:31 AM

Mel Kiper - is he still relevant?

RealSNR 03-11-2009 09:31 AM

Wilford Brimley is going to invade Kiper's house and stab him in his sleep.

Dr. Johnny Fever 03-11-2009 09:34 AM

The donks are going through a rough patch for sure but with their signings in free agency I expect them to be better than us this year.

milkman 03-11-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5572690)
LOL. I just love how KC is on the lips of everyone. Pioli is a marketing guru.

Really?

I listen to ESPN Radio while I'm working, and the week after the Cassel trade all the talk was about how Cutler was pissed about his name coming up in trade talks.

The Chiefs were basically just mentioned in passing as the team that got Cassel instead of the Donkeys.

As near as I can tell, no one is talking about the Chiefs, still.

Frazod 03-11-2009 09:42 AM

I'm sure this will do wonders for Cutler's already sunny disposition.

BWAAHHAAHHAA LMAO

TommyHawk69 03-11-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5572711)
Mel Kiper - is he still relevant?

As relevant as anyone on here.

EyePod 03-11-2009 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5572723)
Really?

I listen to ESPN Radio while I'm working, and the week after the Cassel trade all the talk was about how Cutler was pissed about his name coming up in trade talks.

The Chiefs were basically just mentioned in passing as the team that got Cassel instead of the Donkeys.

As near as I can tell, no one is talking about the Chiefs, still.

I dunno, I heard about the Cassel/Vrabel trade nonstop. And I guess I was talking about this offseason in general. I've heard tons about the Chiefs on ESPN. It's not all about the Pat's for once.

StcChief 03-11-2009 09:53 AM

Donxs implosion nothing could be finer.

blaise 03-11-2009 09:54 AM

I think Cutler is an overrated whiner, but Kiper is trying to make himself look good. He (I'm almost positive) said Matt Leinart was the steal of that year's draft, and that Cutler was the third best QB prospect behind Vince Young and Leinart. So he can toot his own horn about Cutler if he wants, but so far Cutler is still far better than Vince Young or Matt Leinart.
He's saying people have egg on their face. Mel has egg on his face more than they do, he needs to shut his pie hole.

ChiefRon 03-11-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5572775)
I think Cutler is an overrated whiner, but Kiper is trying to make himself look good. He (I'm almost positive) said Matt Leinart was the steal of that year's draft, and that Cutler was the third best QB prospect behind Vince Young and Leinart. So he can toot his own horn about Cutler if he wants, but so far Cutler is still far better than Vince Young or Matt Leinart.
He's saying people have egg on their face. Mel has egg on his face more than they do, he needs to shut his pie hole.

And what did he say about Cassel coming out? :)


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