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Rain Man 04-25-2025 11:35 AM

The 2025 Round 1 Back Seat Driver Poll
 
I figure we should quantify stuff with a poll. Read the instructions carefully so you don't disappoint those who depend on you.

If I remember, I'll do this for each pick in the draft. We'll start with the first-round pick because that's the pick that came first chronologically.


Part 1: Approval Poll. This one is pretty straightforward. It should include both your opinion of the draftee as well as your opinion of the quality of other available options.

Part 2: Alternate Pick Poll: Vote in this one even if you would have drafted Josh Simmons if you were GM. This is just to look at our second choices. For your convenience, I have included a list of the "top remaining" based on the NFL site: https://www.nfl.com/news/best-prospe...2025-nfl-draft

Poll will arrive as soon as Roger gets to the podium to announce it. Note that this is a public poll to allow for bragging or ridicule in future years.

BlackHelicopters 04-25-2025 11:41 AM

Inb4

Rain Man 04-25-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 18043314)
Inb4

Confirmed. Someone give this man a cookie.

old_geezer 04-25-2025 12:00 PM

When the pick was announced I was against it. The more I read and hear about it I'm convinced it's a gamble but the correct choice. I chose Henderson as 2nd choice although it was a toss-up between him and Burden.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-25-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 18043367)
When the pick was announced I was against it. The more I read and hear about it I'm convinced it's a gamble but the correct choice. I chose Henderson as 2nd choice although it was a toss-up between him and Burden.

My thoughts exactly, and here's the thing; Henderson just might still be there for us in the 2nd, or we could move up for him if they are as high on him as has been rumored.

It absolutely was the right pick, 100%. Even if it doesn't work out, I'd stand by that.

wazu 04-25-2025 12:32 PM

Alternate pick: LB Jihaad Campbell

For future reference this is who the Eagles took with Pick 31.

smithandrew051 04-25-2025 12:35 PM

I went with “dislike” even though I don’t really dislike it.

I like the player, but just am very pessimistic about this particular injury. I can’t get to “like” or better here. I’m definitely not indifferent.

I sincerely hope the Chiefs are right.

wazu 04-25-2025 12:36 PM

I was teetering on "dislike", but landed on "don't know squat" because I really want that to be true. It would be so amazing if we actually did manage to land a franchise LT with Pick 32.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-25-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 18043429)
I went with “dislike” even though I don’t really dislike it.

I like the player, but just am very pessimistic about this particular injury. I can’t get to “like” or better here. I’m definitely not indifferent.

I sincerely hope the Chiefs are right.

I'd be interested to know what kind of process they use for evaluation on something like this. All indications are the Chiefs are completely comfortable with everything. It's been said it was only a partial tear and not a full, which supposedly makes a difference. It could just be the combination of the injury plus the reported character concerns, along with it being a deep draft for tackles, simply pushed him right into our hands.

Let's be honest, this team seems to have pretty good fortune the last 6-7 years. They just might have lucked out on this one, it does happen from time to time.

wazu 04-25-2025 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18043426)
Alternate pick: LB Jihaad Campbell

For future reference this is who the Eagles took with Pick 31.

Wait, maybe this violates the rules since he wasn't there at 32.

Rain Man 04-25-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18043453)
Wait, maybe this violates the rules since he wasn't there at 32.

I think that's a fair pick since he could have been ours. The only issue is that you'd also need to give up an as-yet unknown 5th round selection.

wazu 04-25-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18043492)
I think that's a fair pick since he could have been ours. The only issue is that you'd also need to give up an as-yet unknown 5th round selection.

Okay, I'm gonna go with that, then. Realistically there is almost no chance I make a good pick in Round 5. This isn't my job.

Bump 04-25-2025 01:43 PM

I'm indifferent. I'm not gonna pretend that it isn't a gamble and an attempt to fix left tackle. If it works out it's going to be awesome though.

If Simmons wasn't available I probably go with Will Johnson because he was rated so high on all the mocks, kind of like how McDuffie was and then he dropped and the Chiefs are great at developing DB's.

Mr. Wizard 04-25-2025 01:48 PM

Amazes me how many people forgot the superbowl. I would be ok if the drafted nothing but offensive line and one tight end.

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2025 01:51 PM

Indifferent. Talent and need is there but the injury is too risky for my blood.

PHOG 04-25-2025 01:52 PM

I voted I like it because it's done and hopefully it turns out (nothing I can do to change it). I was intrigued by the Johnson CB who fell for who knows what reason.

Rausch 04-25-2025 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 18043588)
Indifferent. Talent and need is there but the injury is too risky for my blood.

Same.

A lot of talent left and even if this pick is a miss we could still nail the draft as a whole. I guess my critique would be Veach can get over-aggressive at times and not get the most value by being patient. If the choice was only over-aggressive or overly-passive I'd prefer to side with over-aggressive.

Hoover 04-25-2025 02:02 PM

I don't like it when people suggest that the pick is "risky," I mean all picks are risky.

I like the pick because of the upside it brings. If Simmons pans out, the Chiefs won the ****ing lottery and just blew open their Super Bowl contention window. It's already open because of Mahomes, but if they fit the online through the draft, have already invested in the WR through the draft, think of the cap space thatchy will have created.

I'm excited about Simmons because he's a man, who knows how to play LT. He's a day one starter once fully healthy. But equally exciting is that we have more young developing talent with Kingsley and Morris. And who knows maybe Moore finds a home at guard or RT and we extend him for a reasonable amount. I just like this situation a whole lot better than the hope and a prayer approach last year, which resembled they Skyy Moore and Toney approach to the WR position

JPH83 04-25-2025 02:38 PM

I can't dislike it at this stage, because it's a premium position where we have at least somewhat of a long-term need and the upside seems reasonable.

But, it's not what I'd have done. I'd probably have gone Burden, possibly Green. I don't think I'm even astronomically high on either, I think I'd just have been a little more risk-averse with this particular injury.

I'm not sure I buy the whole "if it doesn't work out, no worries, it's the right move" - I mean, it's a defensible move right now, sure, but if the injury doesn't work out and a number of the players picked after turn out to be blue-chip talents, then it absolutely wasn't the right move.

But man, if it works, this and a few others will be funny threads.

Wallymo 04-25-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18043434)
I was teetering on "dislike", but landed on "don't know squat" because I really want that to be true. It would be so amazing if we actually did manage to land a franchise LT with Pick 32.

This is where I'm at too. Everything I've read here -- by people that I believe know what they are talking about -- is very pessimistic that Simmons will ever be the same player. Even if he's deemed "recovered."

But I'm an optimist by nature, read everything available from Veach, Andy and the team doctor about the state of the injury and am hoping we got a real steal here instead.

So I went with "don't know squat" to cover my bases.

el borracho 04-25-2025 02:53 PM

Hope Simmons regains his health but I don't like the gamble (1st round pick on a 300lb lineman with patellar tendon issues).

Eagles traded with us, presumably to prevent a trade with someone else. I would like to know what was offered (assuming it wasn't a bluff by Veach).

With Harmon gone, I probably would have looked to trade back a few spots. Then I would be looking at Tuimoloau or A. Thomas.

Womble 04-25-2025 02:53 PM

Sanders would have been a solid 3rd choice QB.

Balto 04-25-2025 03:11 PM

Simmons OR trade down again.


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