*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="art" dir="ltr">��</p>&mdash; Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1915609374199894055?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren&#39;t very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he&#39;s going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1915612949214908901?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn&#39;t suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1915612506170548549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have selected <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OSU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OSU</a> OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. <a href="https://t.co/awdb0JhPed">https://t.co/awdb0JhPed</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1915612458187722965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.<br><br>A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. <a href="https://t.co/oBx2CjzmCe">pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1915611903436444006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Simmons is the only OT in the SIS draft board stats database (since 2023) without a blown pass block in his draft season <a href="https://t.co/qR42DEPSJu">pic.twitter.com/qR42DEPSJu</a></p>&mdash; Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1915616231828095104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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You guys please just give it a chance and trust these guys.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kind of spoiled the pick with this.

Little early.

They're trying to help Mahomes. I really like that. Now we just have to cross our fingers and hope this Simmons kid is able to play up to his potential.

I guess they think even though he won’t be the same he’ll be good enough.

**** me.

If this dude can be healthy this is a great pick

LETS ****ING GO. HATERS CAN SUCK SIMMONS INFLAMED PATELLA.

seriously, dont get the simmons hate on here it's ****ing irrational. good teams take advantage of rare inefficiencies. assuming med evals cleared - which they must have since we drafted him - this is a literal steal at #32 as far as talent is concerned.

great ****ing pick veach.

I knew it with the Mahomes sunglasses emoji, he's gonna be cool and calm in the pocket

Nice pick - picked up an extra 5th is the cherry on top

Have to be right about the medicals.

Absolutely have to be right.

Hahahahahahahahaaha. I guess Veach and front office are stupid huh?!?!?

Love this pick!!!

PROTECT MY QUARTERBACK, BROTHER

We lost Both Superbowls because we couldn't protect the QB. Makes sense.

Who said he won’t be the same? What do you know the chiefs don’t?

Penalty machine - don't we already have two of those?

Ohio State Buckeye drafted FINALLY!

simmons haters wya

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He said he'll post the thread right away. Gotta stay in the no spoilers thread.

Hope and pray. Could be brilliant. Wasn't my choice but fully support any move Veach makes to protect 15.

Idk how i feel about this pick. Of course I know they don't care what I think. So there's that..

We’ve seen in the past few years it’s impossible for us to find a left tackle because we keep winning and getting low draft picks.

How you gonna be mad at this? This is a legit tackle if not for an injury. We have the luxury of taking this shot. And we’ve got the perfect situation to situate him slowly. I think you’re all trying to hard for perfection.

CP groupthink

Love this. Especially not even having to trade up.

HORNAY FOR THIS!!!

I don’t have a single issue with the player or his ability. I really like him.

It’s literally the injury. That’s it. I’m terrified.

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Have to roll the dice now and again! Lets freaking roll!

Don't understand this at all

Will he be ready by training camp?

Veach knows it's a gamble and it's one he feels he has to make after the mess of left tackle for the 2024 Chiefs

What a pick. Rest of the league is in shambles at the prospect of playing a protected Patrick Mahomes.

This is a home run. Especially getting a 5th to move back a spot. I would have been okay with moving up a few spots for him.

Dude would have been a top 10 pick.

We have a stop gap, and now… finally… our franchise LT

Anyone can be injured in football. It's a great pick with a lot upside.

1) We were an injury away from starting Wanya again.

2) Moore may not be good enough, we don’t know.

3) Jawaan is gone after this year.

This makes all the sense in the world especially for an elite talent that may need time to ease in.

Rock & roll. I like it. Jawaan's salary shifts to Trey after next season & this dude slides in.

Simmons walking into training camp

https://i.imgur.com/h51qqUu.gif

Picking where they do, a good move.

This was goddamn stupid as hell and I have nothing more to add.

Good luck with hoping this guy does something that literally nobody in the history of the league has ever done - come back from a blown patella to be an effective staring tackle.

It's literally never happened.

But hey, super double grafts for the win, right?!?

Can’t wait to hear from the haters.

Excellent value at our most in dire position. Homerun.

They seem confident his medicals won't be a long term issue from the reports I'm reading. Better be right.

Not a single ****ing brain cell in my body can support this pick right now. Not one. Absolutely ****ing mind boggling. I can't express how much I hate it.

I've seen a lot of shitty picks from this franchise in the past but this one has the potential to be among the top 5 absolute worst ever at an absolutely critical juncture.

They need to pray to baby Jesus that he defies all odds, and those odds are horrendous.

Just not a fan of taking someone in the first round who won't help us next year.

Picking up the fifth was phenomenal. Absolutely a homerun.

Andy seemed happy. Talent is there. Could be a major steal.

yep. traded down, got a free 5th, and picked up the best OT as far as the tape goes.

veach is a ****in baller.

If nothing else, it would be cool if Simmons is healthy enough to be a solid Right Tackle when Taylor leaves next year. Even if he's damaged goods as a LT, maybe he can still be pretty helpful at the RT spot.

Where’d you get your medical degree sir?

I’m sure they did their homework- they know a lot more than any of us

Yeah, but any player can sustain a serious injury. I wish they picked Conerly but Washington had to snag him away.

Doesn’t matter. Jaylon Moore and jawaan are here. And they’re exactly the type of guys you play right away but don’t feel too sorry if someone outplays them. Take your time with Simmons.

LIES….Stop the hate!

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Like we did with Skyy Moore?

You'd have backed any swinging dick they took.

No, I absolutely will not ignore literally every single data point that has EVER existed.

This is ****ing dumb.

Reminder from kccrow:



Let's talk about the data set I shared in March regarding Patellar injuries in the NFL, since not many care to read. It's here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/article...rmance%20level
31/56 (55%) players returned to the NFL from a patellar injury (RTP).
Of those, 13/50 (26%) returned to play as many games post-injury as they had pre-injury (RTP Games).
Only 8/50 (16%) returned to start as many games post-injury as they had pre-injury (RTP Starts).
The 6 (11%) in the remainder, despite returning to the NFL, never saw another snap.
Of the 50 that saw snaps, only 12 (24%) returned to prior PFF level of performance at any point (RTP Performance)
Among those 12, 7 (14%) returned to prior performance after 1 year and 5 (10%) after 2 years.
OL specifically was 6/17 (35%) RTP, 1/16 (6%) RTP Games, 1/16 (6%) RTP Starts, and 2/16 (13%) RTP Performance with 1 RTPP (6%) after 1 year and 1 (6%) after 2 years.

We are not talking about great odds here people. The media and agents can cook this up howevery they want to cook it. Its a blood-flow injury, so it's going to heal up just fine. Healing up doesn't mean he's ever going to be able to play the same. The elasticity of that tendon is forever affected. His ability to generate power and torque from his quads to the ground is forever affected.

You can look deeper at the stats if you want. Purely looking at OL, he has a 13% chance of ever returning to play at his prior level of performance (this favors Simmons over RTP Starts or RTP Games). Data says 83% of NFL first-round picks on the offensive line hit. So, chances are you'll play somewhere on the OL. 59% actually hit at OT, so a healthy portion of guys drafted to be OTs end up playing some other position.

So if he has a 13% shot of returning to his prior form and a 59% chance of playing OT, then he falls somewhere in the neighborhood of an 8% chance he'll make it as an OT. He has about an 11% chance of ever being anything on the OL.

Is that what you want from your 1st round pick, folks? I don't. In fact, that screams 7th rounder or UDFA. That doesn't even scream 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I'd be willing to take a shot in the dark in round 3. I mean, there is that remote potential that he ends up defying all odds. It's not due to his youth because less experienced, and younger players actually have worse odds in the study. It's merely one of those "so you're telling me there's a chance" situations.

Fight me. I’m at Palm Springs for stage coach. I told you assholes. I have Gracie hunts -#.

I think it's one thing to throw down a 6th rounder on a guy with a history of heart murmurs, but this is a 1st rounder. This is damn risky.

Hahahahaha

Well, I hope you're right. How's that?

But I don't think any of us are going to be happy with this.

There are people really writing off a 22 year old coming back from an injury?

Younger people recover better. Give it a shot.

The board ****ing sucked. Like who did you want?

Wasn't really onboard with this pick.. But now that its happened... I'm rooting for the kid... I remember Trey Smith had real questions about his health and that worked out.. So,, if they think he will be fine then I'm trusting the Chiefs..

Let’s cook. Veach is undefeated.

You freaking OWE (!!!!) it to Mahomes to take this gamble. Period! Cant have 15 playing the majority of his career behind a parking cone at left tackle. We had a freaking guard trying to hold up out there in a Super Bowl. Utterly ridiculous!

Henderson or Burden personally.

Technically (obviously not full comparison) this guy was Trent Williams.


If he is healthy we won the draft.

So what's the best case scenario? Moore is great so Simmons doesn't see the field till 2026 at RT? Or that Moore sucks and Simmons replaces him this year or next? While also hoping he recovers from his injury.



Wow. We better have the best O-line ever starting 2026 cause wtf?

They didn’t draft my guy wahhhhhh.

The redskins drafted your guy to be a damn guard just calm down.

I’m typically pretty optimistic, but I can’t get there with this one.

The history of this particular injury is just too awful.

Zero issues with the player or position. That all makes sense.

The record for guys who have had this injury is just so so bad.

In Veach We Trust

Alright KC, you are going to have to explain this one, again.

DJ is usually right so I trust his opinion. Bad move.

Mahomes seems to be VERY happy with the pick. Hope they didn't whistle past the graveyard just to appease him on this.

I like it. The Chiefs can nurse him along slowly this year and basically red shirt him if need be.

Won’t play a down in 2025. We’ll see him in St Joe in 2026 competing with Moore for reps or at RT. Glad we didn’t trade up for him but way too many holes and talent at #32 to take someone that essentially wastes year one on IR and I can’t stand the maturity issue reports I hear about him.

I feel as excited about this pick as I did the Felix pick.

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