Report:Chiefs looking to trade Up in Draft
 

With the Vikings…

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One spot in front of Houston...

Is this really a thing? Or is this blog trying to get clicks by taking a stab in the dark?

Seems pretty weak. The beat writer being credited with it doesn't have anything about it on his own timeline. My guess would be he was speculating on some podcast and now that is news.

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Yup. That's why I asked. Seems to be a thing these days with these lesser known sites. :shake:

Yea, saw this earlier. The Vikings don't have a lot of picks, so it makes a ton of sense.

Apparently it would only cost our late 3rd in terms of the value chart? If so, I'd be all over it for the right player (Walter Nolen I'm looking at you!).

The Chiefs trade up to 24 to get in front of the Texans and select Conerly or Simmons?

Wouldn't surprise me even a little.

Okay **** YEAH!!!

Doesn't seem like this is something you'd....want out there if you were looking to trade up.

I think the Chiefs always inquire what would be the cost and how likely would a team move back.

Yeah, BS tis draft season where teams will lie to their mothers before telegraphing moves.

Savvy AF if they do, displayed great restraint if they don't imho

Trying to make a draft experience in Green Bay exciting!

I don't know that Lewis has HEARD that the Chiefs are working the Vikings hard, but I know that he ran a mock for the Vikings in which they traded down, and the Chiefs were a good partner for that.

An even decent tackle would be the biggest upgrade this team could make. If Andy Reid and Andy Heck think a kid from this class fits that and can be a good long term solution, they should go get him.

It’s just a matter of what they think. Sure would be interesting to be a fly in the room listening to those guys thoughts on the tackle class.

My gut says click bait.

This difference it would make to this offense if Mahomes had 3-4 seconds in the pocket

I don't know shit about the college players so no idea if a good potential move or wasted draft capital.

Who would we likely be going after?

I don’t know about anyone else, but I would like to draft the next Willie Roaf!!!

What is Trey smith worth in trade value? Part of me would rather trade Trey than give up any draft picks. Is that a bad idea? Can Wanya Morris play RG if we were to trade Trey smith?

Paying smith $23.4 M seems like a lot? Here’s an article. I wonder what Trey is worth in a trade? I whiffed on Sneads value. I thought he’d be worth a 2nd rounder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...220750561.html

The Kansas City Chiefs announced Friday they're placing the non-exclusive franchise tag on Pro Bowl guard Trey Smith.

That means Smith's contract must be no less than either the average of the top five cap hits at that player's position or 120% of the player's salary the previous season, whichever is greater. Unlike the exclusive tag, however, Smith is allowed to negotiate with other teams and sign an offer sheet, which the Chiefs have the chance to match. If they chooses not to, they're entitled to receive draft compensation equivalent to two first-round draft picks from the signing team.

The 25-year-old Smith would make $23.4 million if he stays with the Chiefs on the franchise tag, which would make him the highest paid guard in the league.

The franchise tags are used by teams to keep players from leaving in free agency. Although the Chiefs still want to sign a long-term deal with Smith, per multiple reports, the tag allows them a short-term solution.

A four-year veteran out of Tennessee, Smith has established himself as one of the best linemen in the league. With his rookie contract expiring, Smith was one of the top free agents this offseason before Kansas City pulled him back in.

Seems like it is always more difficult to pull of such a trade during the draft. Just because a team taking him are going to want a long term deal. Also do not see him being worthy of a 1st.

You realize that the difference in 'average pocket time' between the BEST team in the league and the WORST team in the league is 2.6 seconds vs. 2.1 seconds, right?

The 7th best team in the league was at 2.4 seconds. The 28th best team in the league was at 2.3 seconds. A tenth of a second separated 2/3 of the NFL last season.

This idea that anyone's gonna build PM some great wall by adding Josh Conerly or Josh Simmons is just silly.

He's gonna have somewhere between 2.3 and 2.5 seconds to throw next season. Same as everyone else.

He'll have a pressure rate somewhere between 20% and 25% -- same as everyone else.

We're not gonna get him 3 seconds to throw the football, fellas. And 4 is just laughably ignorant.

Pat just needs to not poop down his leg and hold the ball too long

I’d love to but you simply cannot go into a new season with three new starters on the OL, especially when the two Gs were complete washouts at T and the new LT is a career backup.

OMG! I hope it's for Travis Hunter.

3 secomds would be awesome and probably lead the league. 4 is impossible to attain. But I agree with your premise in that better protection would make a big difference!

I'd rather trade down. We need more picks.

Mahomes doesn’t need 3-4 seconds. He needs a LT that won’t get prison raped resulting in Mahomes getting hit 10+ times a game.

Wanya actively ruined games. So did Kingsley.

Both Raiders home games Wanya got Mahomes killed to the point he got benched. Kingsley got raped by Hendrickson and killed Mahomes. Both Chargers games, the Super Bowl, the Texans playoff game. The Broncos game was awful.

They need a LT who he can trust. Someone who is at least marginal like Orlando or Donovan Smith.

Didn't we win a SB after changing our the players on the O-line?

Let’s trade Mahomes for Shadeur and Hunter!!!

To a certain degree, Mahomes seems to be able to deal with 1 guy getting beat. Just not both tackles getting beat and the guards getting pushed back into his face. i mean both super bowl losses it was not just 1 LT

That could work. Shadeur is used to getting hit.. so we may not even need a LT.

We’ve shuffled players on the OL every season ever. That’s natural and normal.. but nah, we’ve never changed three positions on the OL and won a Super Bowl that season.

You’re probably right. This isn’t madden and you can’t just plug guys in. Maybe we can trade Trey next year? I’d rather not sign him long term. I hope we find some solutions to the offensive line this season.

Had that bizarre loss to the Bengals in the AFCCG that season.

We turned over the ENTIRE starting OL that off-season, IIRC.

From:

Fisher -- Allegretti/Osemele -- Reiter/Kilgore -- Wylie -- Schwartz/Remmers

To:

Brown -- Thuney -- Creed -- Smith -- Wylie

Wylie was the only holdover and he moved to RT from RG.

Somewhere in Lenexa, Charlie Weiss whispered “quarterback”.

Soon to make the list of NFL's biggest draft busts IMHO.

This is what I was remembering.

Those moves were due just as much to injury/extenuating circumstances as they were necessity, though.

IIRC, Fisher and Schwartz were dealing with long-term injuries while LDT was doing his doctor thing.

Not to mention, those fixes made good sense. We brought in a stalwart, grizzled vet in Thuney, a promising young vet in OBJ, and drafted a C with a high pick.

I don’t think we can compare that situation to picking up a new career backup LT and moving a couple dudes who were vying for worst Chiefs of all time at LT before moving to LG and RG in one offseason.

We didn’t win the Super Bowl that year, though.

This would be silly

I just wanna trade with the Bills. Their fans love that

If the Chiefs trade up it will be an amazing move for a great player, if they don't none of those pieces of shit are worth drafting early.

This past super bowl it was the entire left side plus Mr. False start/holding on the right....

Hard pass if it's for an OT. We have two decent tackles and two projects already, I'm not interested in moving up to take a guy who's likely going to have zero impact year one. This team might have the most complete roster it's had going into the draft in quite some time, and I want to build on that for next year, not trade a bunch of assets for a guy who's not going to play until 2026. I get that it's an important position, but I want a day one playmaker on the DL or on offense in the first. We need someone next to CJ and Mahomes needs at least one more dynamic weapon.

If they go this route, they better be 100% sure they have a 10+ year LT in their sights, because you damn well can't miss if you do this.

You can't miss at LT again, period. That shit needs to be over. Nobody is ever going to be "100%" about an LT that is drafted in the back half of the first round or later.

Which piece of shit we drafting then?

Which is exactly why I'm not interested in trading assets to get one at that point. Trust me, nobody wants a cornerstone LT more than me, but it's simply not happening in this draft unless they really go all out and move into the top 10. That's a different story if they think they can pull that off, or if someone slips into the teens and they make it happen. I'm just not interested in the Conerly/Simmons ideas unless one slips to 31. They are simply not worth moving a bunch of picks for, IMO.

:clap: ROFL

The more mocks I do it does seem apparent that top end talent drops off signicantly at pick 25 or so. If I had to guess Veach is all-in for Josh Simmons or Walter Nolen. If Josh Simmons medicals checked out and he is on the board in the early 20s you go freaking get him.

Unless the person reporting this has an excellent track record, I just take this with a grain of salt.

If a guy that Veach absolutely loves is there he'll try to trade up. He's already done it at least 3 times in the first round and each time has worked out great.

I'd say its worth the move up and giving up our later 3rd for Josh Simmons or if someone like Banks should slide.

Although, I'm hoping its for a killer on defense that they feel the need to go get.

Welcome to the conversation.

We've discussed this many times already in this thread.

tl;dr

Josh Simmons is probably never going to be the same physically, because no one else with this injury EVER has, so no, you don't go freaking get him. You let a stupid franchise waste their 1st on him.

I will trust the medical experts there. Not some dude on a message board. Im sure Veach and co have done their due dilligence.

Absolutely not. If Simmons falls to 31, it's a conversation depending on who else is there. His injury (you won't know until he gets on the field...an exam isn't going to tell you anything) + character/work ethic concerns screams to stay put, and let the board fall to you.

Simmons was in for a workout recently, right?

Seems they either leaked info to bait someone else to move up for him because there was a red flag they aren’t comfortable with and want someone else to fall.

Or the writer is throwing shit at the wall.

No way in hell would the Chiefs or Vikings let that info leak, if it was genuine. 0% chance.

I think if we do it its a Tackle.

They tried to move up last year too and the SB...well, that is going to leave Veach in a spot where he does not want to keep plugging random guys there anymore.


Hopefully medicals on Simmons check out because I think he's a huge talent.

Ok, I do believe this is click bait. Put me in the get Walter Nolen with our 1st pick if possible. I would rather take a chance later on in the draft to get Charles Grant OT from William and Mary. My gut has a bad feeling about Simmons. If Veach and company feel good about it then let it be. There is a good chance Walter Nolen might not be there even @ pick 24. Fingers crossed and we shall see how this draft plays out. :thumb:

If the Chiefs do draft him, we will all cross our fingers and hope that Simmons is literally the first NFL player ever to tear his patellar tendon and be the same player physically after that.

But the data is awful on this. Literally every NFL dude you can find who had this injury either (a) had it end their career or (b) made it back on the field but was never the same/as good as before.

Unsubstantiated rumor from click bait artist. But by all means, have at it.

My Green Bay guy thinks Chiefs are going for


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Because Kelce and Hollywood will be gone next year.

Let the draft come to you Chiefs

By your "GB guy" do you mean just another fan or somebody that you consider a source?

Think it’s a good possibility Chiefs take a WR or athletic TE pretty high (63 or 66) for that very reason . . . . .

It's not asking for 3-4 seconds on every play........it's asking for 3-4 seconds when you absolutely want it or need it to get a play off downfield, while not getting eaten like a plate of Wilson wings at Johnny's Tavern (extra time on the grill please!) by an opposition defense because they know you want it too.

You still, over a season, average like most everyone else on time to throw.
But being able to hold up so some magic from Mahomes can actually take place is the requisite minimum. It can't be just 'make it work' Pat, or I'll write on a forum that you can't stop shitting down your leg.
Or I guess you can go on just being happy to have a very average game manager, because that's where Pat's at in that space.
Brady was absolutely super ****ing elite at it, Mahomes isn't.
Give Mahomes a pocket that isn't guaranteed to melt after 2.3 seconds so that he can shuffle WITHIN protection on occasion, find a later developing route, and rip hearts out.
That's who Pat is.
Just ****ing give him a competent line please.

JMTC

As much as I would love Golden, I don’t see any way he falls that far. He’s too good.

I think if they trade up they’re trying to leap frog teams for either a DT or OT.

Not being a wise ass here and sorry if it has already been discussed, but what previous players had this injury? If it seriously damaged/ended their career how old were they at the time of injury? Genuinely curious.

Without the injury history this dude is likely a top 5 pick. If the Chiefs medical experts think he checks out I think it is well worth the risk. As long as Mahomes is under center and Reid is the coach, we are gonna be picking late in the first every single year. Golden opportunity to steal a franchise left tackle. If...IF...they think he is ready to roll.

That's exciting. I wonder who they have their eyes on. A good edge rusher would be awesome. I hear this draft is strong at the position.

I agree on both fronts.

I’d like to hear some case studies around this injury, positive and negative.

But, ultimately, if the Chiefs staff medical say it’s a go then I’m 100% for it.

It’s more deep than strong. The top end of this draft is weak but there is excellent depth at several positions, including DT, DE, CB and RB. It means those 2nd-4th rounds are more likely to produce starters than perhaps other years. Which makes it all the more confusing why we’d give up a pick to move up 5-10 spots. The talent level differential berwen 20 and 30 in draft is less significant than other years.

I hope this is just noise. That said, I’d get excited to snag someone like Nolen or Stewart.

Jimmy Graham (never the same)
Victor Cruz (never the same)
Jarod Mayo (ended career)
Cadillac Williams (never the same)
The Chiefs Lucas Niang (after his first year)
Jack Conklin (hasn’t played as well since coming back, can’t stay healthy)
Ryan Williams (Cardinals RB, ended career)
JC Jackson (never the same)
Le Charles Bentley (ended career)

Most of these guys were early in their careers/in their prime.

Like 50 percent of guys who have this injury have even return to play in the NFL. And I can’t find a single dude who came back and was as good as he was before.

Simmons’ knee can check out healthy and the repair can be successful, and all history tells us that his new “healthy best” won’t be as good as it was before.

That’s the problem.

I am not giving up hope. Please Veach trade up and get this kid I beg you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Harmon has a case for second best pass rusher in the class. Arsenal of moves. NFL size. Really long. Very athletic. Aware of where the QB is moving. Variety of alignments.<br><br>My DT1. Top 10 overall player. <a href="https://t.co/Qe9GsYOnIh">pic.twitter.com/Qe9GsYOnIh</a></p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1911992031322214449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Interesting to say the least. Simmons has youth on his side. I also think KC is in the perfect spot to take a gamble with Jaylon Moore in the fold for the next two years. We'll see how far he slides.

I believe the scene played out like this:


MahomesMagic approached the new face by yelling out joyfully "ey, man, how you doing?"
"I'm great man! How are you?" said Barbara Jo.



"Pretty darn spiffy! They call me MahomesMagic on Chiefsplanet.com."


"My name is Barbara Jo. I know it sounds like a chicks name, but I'm real manly. Seriously, come here and feel my biceps or my calf muscles and you will see."


"Nah, dog. I'm good. I think I'll just call you my Green Bay guy. That work?" MahomesMagic replied with wit.



"Hell yeah! Sure you don't want to feel my calf muscles? They're hairless"


"Okay but don't tell nobody" MahomesMagic said with an air of enthusiasm and excitement.



"No problem. Grab that baby oil, will you?"

I agree about Derrick Harmon. He doesn’t get that many sacks but his pressure rate is by far the highest of the dts

My favorite dt this year even above the Michigan guy

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Don't stop your gay fan fiction writing dream...I believe in you.

So that's what happened to Jimmy Graham. It initially looked like he would be similar to guys like Gronk and Kelce.

Always wondered why he fell off a cliff.

That would be my bet!

Yeah, I’m just convinced it would be asinine to even draft him in the first round, much less trade up for him. Maybe, MAYBE take a flyer on him if he lasts until the third or fourth. Even then I’m skeptical. There will be so many day one impact players in the first; we need to go that route.

I ran the purported trade thru the draft simulator on ESPN and I grabbed Walter Nolen....picked up Aironte Ersery and Kaleb Johnson later...

Still didn't like the draft i ended up with. I just don't see this trade paying off for KC in the long run.

Heck we could stay pat and still end up with Nolen...plus not have to give up any other later draft picks....