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Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 02:17 PM

The first Dire Wolf howl in 10,000 years
 
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SOUND ON. You’re hearing the first howl of a dire wolf in over 10,000 years. Meet Romulus and Remus—the world’s first de-extinct animals, born on October 1, 2024.

The dire wolf has been extinct for over 10,000 years. These two wolves were brought back from extinction using genetic edits derived from a complete dire wolf genome, meticulously reconstructed by Colossal from ancient DNA found in fossils dating back 11,500 and 72,000 years. This moment marks not only a milestone for us as a company but also a leap forward for science, conservation, and humanity. From the beginning, our goal has been clear: “To revolutionize history and be the first company to use CRISPR technology successfully in the de-extinction of previously lost species.” By achieving this, we continue to push forward our broader mission on—accepting humanity’s duty to restore Earth to a healthier state.

But this isn’t just our moment—it’s one for science, our planet, and humankind. All of which we love and are passionate about. Now, close your eyes and listen to that howl once more. Think about what this means for all of us.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOUND ON. You’re hearing the first howl of a dire wolf in over 10,000 years. Meet Romulus and Remus—the world’s first de-extinct animals, born on October 1, 2024.<br><br>The dire wolf has been extinct for over 10,000 years. These two wolves were brought back from extinction using… <a href="https://t.co/wY4rdOVFRH">pic.twitter.com/wY4rdOVFRH</a></p>&mdash; Colossal Biosciences® (@colossal) <a href="https://twitter.com/colossal/status/1909247817672957959?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 02:19 PM

https://time.com/redesign/_next/imag...pg&w=3840&q=75

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 02:21 PM

AWWW

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gn8-wT1a...jpg&name=large

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 02:25 PM

https://time.com/7274542/colossal-dire-wolf/

Spoiler!

wazu 04-07-2025 02:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bro we literally got actual dire wolves before we got Winds of Winter <a href="https://t.co/LtPo2gksaJ">https://t.co/LtPo2gksaJ</a></p>&mdash; Trey the Explainer (@Trey_Explainer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Trey_Explainer/status/1909257049625473052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 02:27 PM

HOLY SHIT

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Also on their de-extinction wish list is the woolly mammoth, the dodo, and the thylacine, or Tasmanian tiger. Already, in March, the company surprised the science community with the news that it had copied mammoth DNA to create a woolly mouse, a chimeric critter with the long, golden coat and the accelerated fat metabolism of the mammoth.

Tribal Warfare 04-07-2025 02:30 PM

The Return of the Dire Wolf

Time Magazine article in spoiler tags

Spoiler!

R Clark 04-07-2025 02:33 PM

Don’t mess with Mother Nature

Womble 04-07-2025 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 18022765)
Don’t mess with Mother Nature

There's a saying in Olde English: Thou should'st not mess with Mother Nature or Willy Gay's vacuum.

MahomesMagic 04-07-2025 02:49 PM

So Jurassic Park wasn't a warning, it was an inspiration.

Pepe Silvia 04-07-2025 02:51 PM

Cool.

Womble 04-07-2025 02:55 PM

Clay's celebrating now but he's going to shit himself when he comes across a wild dire wolf whilst walking his loud dogs.

Easy 6 04-07-2025 03:03 PM

Pretty cool, now do a wooly mammoth and then turn an emu into a velociraptor

Rain Man 04-07-2025 03:08 PM

I bet our distant ancestors cheered when this species went extinct.

ChiefsCountry 04-07-2025 03:14 PM

They lied to us on Game of Thrones then

InChiefsHeaven 04-07-2025 03:23 PM

Neato. I guess. But...as stated in Jurassic Park, these animals are not extinct because of deforestation or some human cause...nature CHOSE them for extinction...I dunno. This does not seem like a good idea...

kcgreene 04-07-2025 03:31 PM

I'm always amazed by the advances of science... but de-extincting animals that were removed by nature seems like a REALLY bad idea... If this is a practice that continues, said creatures need to remain in captivity for research purposes only. Dire Wolves or Wooly Mammoths being introduced into an ecosystem can have SEVERE repercussions.

Bump 04-07-2025 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18022870)
Neato. I guess. But...as stated in Jurassic Park, these animals are not extinct because of deforestation or some human cause...nature CHOSE them for extinction...I dunno. This does not seem like a good idea...

Ya this doesn't seem ethically or morally right to me.

Easy 6 04-07-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18022870)
Neato. I guess. But...as stated in Jurassic Park, these animals are not extinct because of deforestation or some human cause...nature CHOSE them for extinction...I dunno. This does not seem like a good idea...

These scientists need a thorough consultation with Jeff Goldblum

suzzer99 04-07-2025 03:36 PM

Not to be a wet blanket, but my understanding is this is a grey wolf with 14 specific genes tweaked to match dire wolf DNA. It's unclear how close these guys are to an actual dire wolf.

jjjayb 04-07-2025 03:38 PM

They went extinct for a reason.

scho63 04-07-2025 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 18022883)
I'm always amazed by the advances of science... but de-extincting animals that were removed by nature seems like a REALLY bad idea... If this is a practice that continues, said creatures need to remain in captivity for research purposes only. Dire Wolves or Wooly Mammoths being introduced into an ecosystem can have SEVERE repercussions.

Most extinctions are NOT removed by nature but by the advancement of humans along with that hunting, poaching and killing stuff.

Raiderhater 04-07-2025 03:41 PM

https://media.tenor.com/qTk1nQOtZa4A...rk-hold-on.gif

dlphg9 04-07-2025 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18022870)
Neato. I guess. But...as stated in Jurassic Park, these animals are not extinct because of deforestation or some human cause...nature CHOSE them for extinction...I dunno. This does not seem like a good idea...

They probably did become extinct due to human actions, though. The prey that they relied on started to go extinct and part of that is likely due to humans hunting the same things.

dlphg9 04-07-2025 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 18022898)
They went extinct for a reason.

Yeah because humans likely hunted the dire wolves prey to extinction.

kccrow 04-07-2025 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 18022870)
Neato. I guess. But...as stated in Jurassic Park, these animals are not extinct because of deforestation or some human cause...nature CHOSE them for extinction...I dunno. This does not seem like a good idea...

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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 18022883)
I'm always amazed by the advances of science... but de-extincting animals that were removed by nature seems like a REALLY bad idea... If this is a practice that continues, said creatures need to remain in captivity for research purposes only. Dire Wolves or Wooly Mammoths being introduced into an ecosystem can have SEVERE repercussions.

Agree 100%. As for keeping things captive, though, how often does that work as intended? I don't trust it. I especially don't trust reintroducing predators.

Otter 04-07-2025 04:02 PM

I'm beginning to believe the saying 'we are the aliens' becomes more true everyday.

BWillie 04-07-2025 04:03 PM

Welcome to Jurassic Park

Nirvana58 04-07-2025 04:06 PM

How long before the first Jurassic Park opens?

Also this seems like the first step in what will eventually be seeding another planet.

KCUnited 04-07-2025 04:07 PM

If we can have in vitro humans we can have dire wolves too

Fish 04-07-2025 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 18022897)
Not to be a wet blanket, but my understanding is this is a grey wolf with 14 specific genes tweaked to match dire wolf DNA. It's unclear how close these guys are to an actual dire wolf.

Yes, as with most scientific achievements, the media just has to sensationalize it to the point of borderline misinformation.

They used CRISPR to edit existing grey wolf DNA to mimic dire wolf DNA. Here's a quick explanation:

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To be crystal clear, Colossal’s scientists didn’t create these so-called dire wolves by directly copying DNA over from ancient samples. Instead, after reconstructing and analyzing the wolves’ genomes, they made precise edits to the DNA of existing cells taken from a gray wolf. They made 20 edits in total, 15 of which were intended to make genes resemble the variants found in their dire wolf samples.

It’s these variants, the company says, that make dire wolves truly distinct from wolves alive today. Some of these variants, they say, are thought to influence the wolves’ size and facial shape. The nucleus of these reconstructed cells was then transplanted into donor egg cells that had their nucleus scooped out, which gave rise to viable embryos that were implanted into surrogate mothers (large hound mixes).

For context, the gray wolf—the closest living relative of the dire wolf—has a genome of about 2.45 billion base pairs (the fundamental building blocks of DNA). Given that dire wolf DNA differs by roughly 0.5% from that of gray wolves, the researchers have barely scratched the surface. This 0.5% disparity amounts to roughly 12 million base pairs that set the dire wolf genome apart from its gray wolf counterpart. Accordingly—and not to minimize the achievement—Colossal remains very far from capturing the genetic differences between the two species.

https://gizmodo.com/in-a-historic-fi...-of-2000586007

PHOG 04-07-2025 04:44 PM

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...3Lq8g/200.webp

Dunerdr 04-07-2025 04:46 PM

Between playing god and AI we’re really fast tracking the end times.

ChiefsCountry 04-07-2025 04:56 PM

https://static0.gamerantimages.com/w...-ghost-new.jpg

Spott 04-07-2025 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 18022898)
They went extinct for a reason.

They were in dire straits.

Dark Horse 04-07-2025 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 18022911)
Yeah because humans likely hunted the dire wolves prey to extinction.

It’s the prey’s fault for tasting so good

ChiefsCountry 04-07-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 18022982)
They were in dire straits.

https://media.tenor.com/RK1DP_vADXgA...h-laughing.gif

Jewish Rabbi 04-07-2025 05:55 PM

Darnell and Jerome were making Clay’s girl howl the other night

Rain Man 04-07-2025 06:04 PM

If the company did this, you know that they also experimented with mixing a few human genes in. I bet there's a bipedal dire wolf in a back room of their secret wildlife refuge who's sitting in a recliner and learning to count by watching Sesame Street.

Imon Yourside 04-07-2025 06:07 PM

The Arilou brought them back.

Raiderhater 04-07-2025 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18023022)
If the company did this, you know that they also experimented with mixing a few human genes in. I bet there's a bipedal dire wolf in a back room of their secret wildlife refuge who's sitting in a recliner and learning to count by watching Sesame Street.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/yVDFv...=200w.gif&ct=g

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18023022)
If the company did this, you know that they also experimented with mixing a few human genes in. I bet there's a bipedal dire wolf in a back room of their secret wildlife refuge who's sitting in a recliner and learning to count by watching Sesame Street.

I'd be really interested in knowing if they had to throw out some genetic freaks before they got the process right.

frozenchief 04-07-2025 08:23 PM

It may not happen in my life time, but I hope and pray that my grandson can grow up in a world where he can hunt wooly mammoth in remote Alaska.

Rain Man 04-07-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 18023247)
It may not happen in my life time, but I hope and pray that my grandson can grow up in a world where he can hunt wooly mammoth in remote Alaska.

I look forward to the first time that a lakeside home is flattened by the tail of a brontosaurus.

Hammock Parties 04-07-2025 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 18023247)
It may not happen in my life time, but I hope and pray that my grandson can grow up in a world where he can hunt wooly mammoth in remote Alaska.

They should never be hunted.

Rather, set them up in a kind of...biological preserve. Really spectacular. Spare no expense!

Garcia Bronco 04-07-2025 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 18022982)
They were in dire straits.

And at last the chime bell rang.

Garcia Bronco 04-07-2025 09:17 PM

To the point though, those are not direwolves. Dire wolves are gone. What you see there is a simulation. Manipulated. Spurious. Inauthentic. Not genuine.

Rain Man 04-07-2025 09:19 PM

Speaking of mammoths, I read this article a while back and found it fascinating:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...oth-180983064/

It's really worth the read. As a teaser, it's an explanation of how archaeologists were able to track the exact migratory movements of a specific woolly mammoth in Alaska. It makes my all-time top-ten magazine articles list.

RedinTexas 04-07-2025 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 18023360)
To the point though, those are not direwolves. Dire wolves are gone. What you see there is a simulation. Manipulated. Spurious. Inauthentic. Not genuine.

But if you see one drinking a Coke, it's the real thing.

mlyonsd 04-07-2025 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18023364)
Speaking of mammoths, I read this article a while back and found it fascinating:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...oth-180983064/

It's really worth the read. As a teaser, it's an explanation of how archaeologists were able to track the exact migratory movements of a specific woolly mammoth in Alaska. It makes my all-time top-ten magazine articles list.

That story deserves a Secrets of the Dead episode.

suzzer99 04-07-2025 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18023022)
If the company did this, you know that they also experimented with mixing a few human genes in. I bet there's a bipedal dire wolf in a back room of their secret wildlife refuge who's sitting in a recliner and learning to count by watching Sesame Street.

You know they have a humanzee locked up somewhere.

https://www.app.com/gcdn/-mm-/7fefd6...HTLNO6.1-0.jpg

T-post Tom 04-07-2025 11:24 PM

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rico 04-08-2025 12:09 AM

This is incredible. Makes me proud to be a part of my species in these times.

rico 04-08-2025 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 18022898)
They went extinct for a reason.

On the flipside….

There could be a reason they are being brought back! :shrug:

Pepe Silvia 04-08-2025 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 18023433)
You know they have a humanzee locked up somewhere.

https://www.app.com/gcdn/-mm-/7fefd6...HTLNO6.1-0.jpg

This was probably the inspiration for Planet of the Apes.

Bump 04-08-2025 12:55 AM

they do look pretty awesome NGL tho

I don't think the scientists thought they were going to be white with mane's like that either

ThyKingdomCome15 04-08-2025 02:36 AM

Interesting, sounds a more like a whoop sounding coyote but not as shrill. I didn't expect that but they're still very young. Can't wait to see what they sound like as adults.

rico 04-08-2025 06:52 AM

There was this dude on the Joe Rogan Experience who compared humans to a mold that has grown out of control because our natural predator died out. What in the world is our natural predator that died out?! Whatever it is, I’d prefer not to bring that one back!

listopencil 04-08-2025 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18022793)
So Jurassic Park wasn't a warning, it was an inspiration.


Life, uh, finds a way.

wazu 04-08-2025 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 18023503)
There was this dude on the Joe Rogan Experience who compared humans to a mold that has grown out of control because our natural predator died out. What in the world is our natural predator that died out?! Whatever it is, I’d prefer not to bring that one back!

Historically our main predators seem to mostly be each other.

Garcia Bronco 04-08-2025 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18023510)
Historically our main predators seem to mostly be each other.

And stones from space.

loochy 04-08-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 18023507)
Life, uh, finds a way.


Now, eventually you do plan to have dire wolves on your, on your dire wolf tour, right? Hello?


https://clip.cafe/img800/eventually-...tour-right.jpg

ThaVirus 04-08-2025 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18023364)
Speaking of mammoths, I read this article a while back and found it fascinating:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...oth-180983064/

It's really worth the read. As a teaser, it's an explanation of how archaeologists were able to track the exact migratory movements of a specific woolly mammoth in Alaska. It makes my all-time top-ten magazine articles list.

That is very interesting. For those not looking to read it, they cross referenced strontium levels of this particular mammoth’s tusks with the strontium levels in voles across Alaska (since they don’t travel far) to determine where the mammoth traveled throughout his lifetime. Pretty crazy.

Some other interesting tidbits:

-This mammoth’s molars were the size of a man’s shoe
-Each of his tusks weighed 50 pounds
-He rarely traveled less than 10 miles per day throughout his lifetime
-He traveled twice the circumference of the globe in his lifetime yet spent his whole life in what’s today the state of Alaska

Mammoths have an estimated lifespan of 60 years but this guy died of starvation at only 28. RIP, Kik.

tmax63 04-08-2025 08:30 AM

They're cute little puppies but just like humans, they grow up. We have enough grief in CO with the tree huggers reintroducing regular wolves that I'm not sure we need a new (old) and improved wolves to help thin the rancher's herds.

ThrobProng 04-08-2025 09:04 AM

Boring. Bring back dinosaurs or GTFO.

Bearcat 04-08-2025 09:28 AM

I for one welcome our new wolf overlords.

Kiimo 04-08-2025 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 18022933)
Yes, as with most scientific achievements, the media just has to sensationalize it to the point of borderline misinformation.

They used CRISPR to edit existing grey wolf DNA to mimic dire wolf DNA. Here's a quick explanation:




https://i.imgur.com/P5kspYl.png

kjwood75nro 04-09-2025 05:58 AM

If they were named anything other than "dire," nobody would give a ****.

It's just a gray wolf with a dire name.

Why Not? 04-09-2025 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kjwood75nro (Post 18024518)
If they were named anything other than "dire," nobody would give a ****.

It's just a gray wolf with a dire name.

Maybe. But gray wolves haven't been extinct for thousands of years. So, if scientists today announced "we can make gray wolves" you would be correct in assuming no one would really care. But what you have here is the perfect combination of extinct animal that has a cool name and was featured in a cool show. Kinda like a bear (minus the show part, I think). If it was announced that they can create a black bear, no one cares. But a cave bear? Now we're talking!

DTHOF 04-09-2025 06:58 AM

This sure seems like some pet cemetery stuff
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Bearcat 04-09-2025 06:59 AM

TBF, I also wouldn't care about bringing back a Strait unless it was the Dire kind.

Kiimo 04-09-2025 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kjwood75nro (Post 18024518)
If they were named anything other than "dire," nobody would give a ****.

It's just a gray wolf with a dire name.

It's more than just a name though they're a few months old and already full grey wolf size. So I'm kind of curious how big these suckers are gonna get.

wazu 04-09-2025 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18024543)
TBF, I also wouldn't care about bringing back a Strait unless it was the Dire kind.

What about George?

TripleThreat 04-09-2025 08:09 AM

Interested to see what they do with them, where they told them, and to be honest, a final real live comparison in size between the two.

Demonpenz 04-09-2025 12:50 PM

I saw a dire wolf drinking a Pina colota

Why Not? 04-09-2025 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 18025055)
I saw a dire wolf drinking a Pina colota

Was that at Trader Vic’s, by chance ?

RedinTexas 04-09-2025 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 18025055)
I saw a dire wolf drinking a Pina colota

Dire wolves already in London?

Easy 6 04-09-2025 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18024546)
It's more than just a name though they're a few months old and already full grey wolf size. So I'm kind of curious how big these suckers are gonna get.

^

Tribal Warfare 04-09-2025 04:28 PM

How long will the wolves live naturally due to DNA decay. They said that they used healthy strands, but what did they consider as healthy will they live + 10 years or inside 3 years.

Rain Man 04-09-2025 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 18025345)
How long will the wolves live naturally due to DNA decay. They said that they used healthy strands, but what did they consider as healthy will they live + 10 years or inside 3 years.

That depends on how long it takes humans to redevelop atlatls.


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