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Donger 03-26-2025 04:04 PM

Measles cases rise to 23 in Kansas, may be linked to large multistate outbreak
 
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/healt...eak/index.html

Twenty-three measles cases have been reported in Kansas, and the state health department said they could be linked to an ongoing outbreak that has infected at least 379 people across Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma.

“The confirmed cases in Kansas have a possible link to the outbreaks in Texas and New Mexico. While genetic sequencing of the first Kansas case reported is consistent with an epidemiological link to the Texas and New Mexico outbreaks, the source of exposure is still unknown,” Jill Bronaugh, communications director for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, said in an email Wednesday.

Children account for 21 of the Kansas cases, and 20 of the cases are in people who are unvaccinated.

The Kansas measles cases are concentrated in the southwestern part of the state and have spread to six counties.

Most of the public school districts in these counties have vaccination rates that are well below the recommended 95% threshold set by the Department of Health and Human Services to stop spread of the virus. Hugoton Public Schools in Stevens County, which accounts for more than a quarter of the cases, had an 83% vaccination rate among kindergartners last school year, according to data from the state health department. And the Sublette Unified School District in Haskell County had a vaccination rate of just 44%.

Statewide, 90.4% of incoming kindergartners in the 2023-24 school year had received the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows. Only 15 other states had lower coverage rates.

Religious exemptions for vaccinations have risen in Kansas over the past decade. Last week, the state House of Representatives passed a bill including language that would expand such exemptions. The measure, which also aims to increase child care availability and capacity, is now being debated in a state Senate committee.

“The provision in HB2294 is simply bad public health policy and Kansas children will be harmed by it,” Dr. Brandon Kennedy, chair of the Immunize Kansas Coalition, said in a statement last week.

As part of the wider measles outbreak, Texas has reported 327 cases as of Tuesday, and New Mexico reported 43 cases. Oklahoma has reported nine cases: seven confirmed and two probable.
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Related article Tracking measles cases in the United States

Forty-two people have been hospitalized and one death reported, a school-age child who was not vaccinated and had no underlying conditions. Health officials in New Mexico are also investigating the cause of death of an unvaccinated person who tested positive for measles.

Most of the cases in Texas are in Gaines County, where the outbreak was first identified. In New Mexico, most are in Lea County, which borders Gaines County.

Officials say the virus’ spread into additional counties is a problem.

“We’re continuing to see more counties with one case popping up. … It’s concerning every time we add additional counties with cases,” said Katherine Wells, director of Lubbock Public Health in Texas. “It indicates that people are either traveling through Gaines County and picking it up, or we’re having people infected with measles traveling outside the county.”

Tuesday’s update from the Oklahoma State Department of Health indicates links with the Texas and New Mexico cases.

“All cases are linked through exposures to household or extended family; and initial cases reported exposure to the measles outbreak in West Texas and New Mexico. At this time, no cases have resulted from exposure to public settings,” the agency said.

Although most of the cases in the outbreak have been in people who were unvaccinated or who had unknown vaccination status, six were found in people who said they have received at least one dose of MMR: two in Texas and four in New Mexico.

New Mexico’s case update Tuesday reported only one additional case since Friday, but local officials said they worry that the numbers will continue to grow
Two doses of the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine are 97% effective against the measles virus.

“This is not necessarily a downward trend. It could just be a lull in what is an ongoing outbreak,” said Robert Nott, communications director for the New Mexico Department of Health. “We are not taking it for granted.”

The CDC is on the ground in Texas to help with infection control, including figuring out how to reduce exposures in patient waiting rooms and answering technical questions for health care providers who have never seen measles before, Wells said.

New Mexico has not requested CDC assistance, but the agency has been in communication with the health department, according to local officials.

There have been more than 444 measles cases reported in the United States this year, according to CNN’s tally of cases.

Less than a quarter through 2025, this is already more than all of the cases reported last year. In 2024, there were 285 measles cases reported in the US, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Bump 03-26-2025 04:05 PM

post this in DC and I'll tell you why you supported this happening.

Donger 03-26-2025 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 18010999)
post this in DC and I'll tell you why you supported this happening.

Please don't. This is just an FYI about a very contagious illness.

Deberg_1990 03-26-2025 04:10 PM

Obligatory off to DC soon…..

BWillie 03-26-2025 04:16 PM

Good thing I got my measles vaccine when I was a kid.

It was strange. Nobody even thought getting the vaccine was strange or anything.

Bearcat 03-26-2025 04:18 PM

Two DC regulars from opposite sides of the fence posting threads that would be DC ragebait, in the Lounge, separated by 45 minutes.

Is this a contest/bet? LMAO

KCUnited 03-26-2025 04:19 PM

Just an FYI guys

Bearcat 03-26-2025 04:20 PM

That 44% vaccinated number is pretty crazy though... I assume maybe rural areas have that issue historically? :shrug:

Spott 03-26-2025 04:22 PM

I’d rather die of measles than be some worthless english cuck.

BWillie 03-26-2025 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18011017)
Two DC regulars from opposite sides of the fence posting threads that would be DC ragebait, in the Lounge, separated by 45 minutes.

Is this a contest/bet? LMAO

I remember when vaccines weren't a political issue.

The good ole days of 2019 and earlier.

Donger 03-26-2025 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18011017)
Two DC regulars from opposite sides of the fence posting threads that would be DC ragebait, in the Lounge, separated by 45 minutes.

Is this a contest/bet? LMAO

Is this a Q?

FloridaMan88 03-26-2025 04:25 PM

Like clockwork. LMAO

MahomesMagic 03-26-2025 04:28 PM

"Cases".

Donger 03-26-2025 04:34 PM

Could you guys drop it? Some might be interested to learn of this outbreak. Thanks.

petegz28 03-26-2025 04:36 PM

The number of cases of measles has been increasing since the early 2,000's when they hit an all time low.

RunKC 03-26-2025 04:38 PM

One of our good friends sons could not get the measles vaccine bc he had cancer. Really worried about him.

Tribal Warfare 03-26-2025 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 18011025)
I’d rather die of measles than be some worthless english cuck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18011033)
Like clockwork. LMAO

Yep

Straight, No Chaser 03-26-2025 04:41 PM

Mennonites in Texas thinking having had measles will “make your body stronger” isn’t old enough to remember me getting penicillin shots in my ass and having pneumonia bad enough to have a graveyard cough and an oxygen tent for weeks. I never understood getting all the brothers and sisters and cousins together to “get it over with”.

PHOG 03-26-2025 04:43 PM

Get this ****ing shit out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

petegz28 03-26-2025 04:45 PM

so this isn't Covid or even the flu. With the exception of situations like RunKC mentioned, the measles vax is 97% effective. So there you go. If you didn't get vaxed you gambled. If you did then you're 97% sure you aren't getting it.

Fish 03-26-2025 04:49 PM

Fortunately, we have a federal agency who's responsibility is to prevent and manage these sorts of things. I'm sure it'll be fine.

TLO 03-26-2025 05:11 PM

Insanity

TLO 03-26-2025 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18011014)
Good thing I got my measles vaccine when I was a kid.

It was strange. Nobody even thought getting the vaccine was strange or anything.

I didn't hesitate for a second giving my 13 month old the MMR vaccine when he turned 1.

There was no choice to be made in my mind.

threebag 03-26-2025 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 18011003)
Please don't. This is just an FYI about a very contagious illness.

Brought on by the open border policies of the prior administration

dlphg9 03-26-2025 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 18011066)
so this isn't Covid or even the flu. With the exception of situations like RunKC mentioned, the measles vax is 97% effective. So there you go. If you didn't get vaxed you gambled. If you did then you're 97% sure you aren't getting it.

Ya know they don't even gove the measels vaccine until 12-15 months old, so idiots not getting it are just putting the babies in danger.

threebag 03-26-2025 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 18011052)
Could you guys drop it? Some might be interested to learn of this outbreak. Thanks.

And what drove it to the current level of concern?

BlackOp 03-26-2025 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 18011052)
Some might be interested in being propagandized into fear of this "outbreak". Thanks.

Fixed...now go hide under your bed...again.

loochy 03-26-2025 05:34 PM

Holy shit! 23 people!?!? We're all goners! Game over man, game over. What are we gonna do?

ChiliConCarnage 03-26-2025 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 18011111)
Holy shit! 23 people!?!? We're all goners! Game over man, game over. What are we gonna do?

Take off, nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure

Couch-Potato 03-26-2025 05:43 PM

Well, the mother that lost her daughter to it in TX said “the disease wasn’t that bad” so probably nothing to worry about right?

BlackOp 03-26-2025 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18011117)
Well, the mother that lost her daughter to it in TX said “the disease wasn’t that bad” so probably nothing to worry about right?

2 people died from being struck by lightening in Texas last year...better never go outside again.

BWillie 03-26-2025 05:51 PM

Whooping cough for the mother fkn win!

notorious 03-26-2025 05:54 PM

There are a lot of people in SW Kansas (and I mean a LOT) that aren't from the local area.......


The vaccines weren't exactly required or even available in the areas they moved from to get here.

htismaqe 03-26-2025 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 18011121)
2 people died from being struck by lightening in Texas last year...better never go outside again.

I just knew GLP-1's were killing people!

notorious 03-26-2025 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18011024)
That 44% vaccinated number is pretty crazy though... I assume maybe rural areas have that issue historically? :shrug:

There isn't an issue for people born in the area.

The schools hound you relentlessly if you don't get all the vaccines.

KCUnited 03-26-2025 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011132)
There are a lot of people in SW Kansas (and I mean a LOT) that aren't from the local area.......


The vaccines weren't exactly required or even available in the areas they moved from to get here.

https://i.imgur.com/0GXMEVX.gif

Spott 03-26-2025 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 18011024)
That 44% vaccinated number is pretty crazy though... I assume maybe rural areas have that issue historically? :shrug:

That is an insanely low number. I thought all kids had to have the standard round of vaccinations to be allowed into a public school.

notorious 03-26-2025 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 18011139)

Me carefully wording that post:

https://www.nerdfitness.com/wp-conte...tight-rope.gif

George Liquor 03-26-2025 06:10 PM

This plague live close to you?

HonestChieffan 03-26-2025 06:33 PM

All a parent can do to protect their kids is get them vaxed because the antivaxers will just continue to spread sickness.

Rain Man 03-26-2025 06:35 PM

Have the Boomers heard about the measles vaccine issue? Apparently some people in our era got a vaccine that had a shelf life, and that was just recently discovered. When I traveled out of the country recently, I had to get a blood test to see if my measles vaccine was still good or if I had the expired version.

notorious 03-26-2025 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18011175)
Have the Boomers heard about the measles vaccine issue? Apparently some people in our era got a vaccine that had a shelf life, and that was just recently discovered. When I traveled out of the country recently, I had to get a blood test to see if my measles vaccine was still good or if I had the expired version.

Rain is a super spreader.....




of the ladies.

wazu 03-26-2025 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18011175)
Have the Boomers heard about the measles vaccine issue? Apparently some people in our era got a vaccine that had a shelf life, and that was just recently discovered. When I traveled out of the country recently, I had to get a blood test to see if my measles vaccine was still good or if I had the expired version.

Hadn't heard of this. What year did you get yours? I got one in 87 or 88. There was an outbreak going on and everybody in my junior high got the shot unless their parents said no.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-26-2025 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 18011099)
Ya know they don't even gove the measels vaccine until 12-15 months old, so idiots not getting it are just putting the babies in danger.

Babies are particularly in danger from 6-12 months because a mother vaccinated immunity only last about 6 months in a newborn, and they can't get the shot due to maturity issues until they are 12 months. Many cases can be in this range.

nychief 03-26-2025 06:45 PM

"They just need a good bleeding to balance the bad humors." - RFK Jr.

Bearcat 03-26-2025 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011145)

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Pablo 03-26-2025 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011132)
There are a lot of people in SW Kansas (and I mean a LOT) that aren't from the local area.......


The vaccines weren't exactly required or even available in the areas they moved from to get here.

These people…. How would you describe their appearance?

Aside from measle-y

Jewish Rabbi 03-26-2025 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011222)
These people…. How would you describe their appearance?

Aside from measle-y

Let’s just say you won’t catch them eating Taco Bell

Pablo 03-26-2025 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 18011224)
Let’s just say you won’t catch them eating Taco Bell

Do they at least enjoy La Tiara brand taco shells??

BossChief 03-26-2025 07:29 PM

If you can’t tell that all of this is planned theatre, there’s no help for you.

If you don’t have the same feeling as the moment you saw the second plane hit the towers, you need to pay more attention.

Pablo 03-26-2025 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18011230)
If you can’t tell that all of this is planned theatre, there’s no help for you.

If you don’t have the same feeling as the moment you saw the second plane hit the towers, you need to pay more attention.

Ok?

Titty Meat 03-26-2025 07:30 PM

Wear a mask get the vax

Jewish Rabbi 03-26-2025 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011225)
Do they at least enjoy La Tiara brand taco shells??

Not any more they don’t.

BossChief 03-26-2025 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011231)
Ok?

I think a lot of this is over/under reported based on the business model of the outlet producing the consumable media.

The second the new HHS director took over *all of a sudden* all of these measles cases pop up and planes have tons of *crashes while on the ground* and other instances when it’s OBVIOUSLY driven by a business model driven narrative.

The reason it relates to S11 is that I think everyone knew the first plane hit the first tower immediately. And right then, half of us thought it is likely a statement by an outside force whether that’s terror, business or a military strike.

But when that second plane hit and we knew they were commercial planes….it was confirmed that this could be the start of a war or another terror attack by a terrorist organization outside the US.

None of this is coincidental.

Jewish Rabbi 03-26-2025 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18011255)
I think a lot of this is over/under reported based on the business model of the outlet producing the consumable media.

The second the new HHS director took over *all of a sudden* all of these measles cases pop up and planes have tons of *crashes while on the ground* and other instances when it’s OBVIOUSLY driven by a business model driven narrative.

The reason it relates to S11 is that I think everyone knew the first plane hit the first tower immediately. And right then, half of us thought it is likely a statement by an outside force whether that’s terror, business or a military strike.

But when that second plane hit and we knew they were commercial planes….it was confirmed that this could be the start of a war or another terror attack by a terrorist organization outside the US.

None of this is coincidental.

I bet you have a ponytail, don’t you?

Pablo 03-26-2025 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 18011233)
Wear a mask get the vax

I started boosting my boosters with rooster booster from QuikTrip. Highly recommend triple masking if you’re gonna brave one of those petri dish stores though

BWillie 03-26-2025 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18011230)
If you can’t tell that all of this is planned theatre, there’s no help for you.

If you don’t have the same feeling as the moment you saw the second plane hit the towers, you need to pay more attention.

I think you've fallen off the deep in buddy.

mr. tegu 03-26-2025 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011132)
There are a lot of people in SW Kansas (and I mean a LOT) that aren't from the local area.......


The vaccines weren't exactly required or even available in the areas they moved from to get here.


It’s probably pretty easy to differentiate between Danish immigrants and native Kansans due to the height differences.

Rain Man 03-26-2025 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011178)
Rain is a super spreader.....




of the ladies.

I don't want to brag, but I recently passed through DFW airport.

Rain Man 03-26-2025 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18011183)
Hadn't heard of this. What year did you get yours? I got one in 87 or 88. There was an outbreak going on and everybody in my junior high got the shot unless their parents said no.

It looks like you're safe. I don't know about this website, but it provides a description similar to what my travel clinic explained. I'm apparently in a narrow age group where some people got a non-permanent vaccination. (My personal vaccination was permanent, so I didn't need to get another one.)

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-revaccination

Key excerpts:

Measles vaccines became available in 1963. If you got the standard two doses of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine after 1967, you should be protected against the measles for life.



...

The live version of the vaccine introduced in 1963 appears to have worked well, but there was another version (the “killed” version) that did not. That was also administered between 1963 and 1967.

Therefore, people who either received the killed version of the measles vaccine or don’t know what kind they received in the 1960s should be re-immunized, says the Centers for Disease Control and PreventionTrusted Source (CDC).


...

“Most people born before 1957 were exposed to at least two major measles outbreaks, which confers immunity,” she said. Once a person has had the measles, they are immune for life. Its thse who received the vaccine between 1963 and 1967 are the exception, she noted.

rydogg58 03-26-2025 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18011265)
I don't want to brag, but I recently passed through DFW airport.

So, that crazy gal, did you whisper in her ear that the best way to avoid Measles was to run naked through the terminal?

Bowser 03-26-2025 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 18011171)
All a parent can do to protect their kids is get them vaxed because the antivaxers will just continue to spread sickness.

I'm old enough to remember when parents would take their kids to chicken pox and measles parties when they were little......

RealSNR 03-26-2025 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011222)
These people…. How would you describe their appearance?

Aside from measle-y

I don't think they know or understand the pleasure of taking a shit in a Kohl's bathroom.

notorious 03-26-2025 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18011265)
I don't want to brag, but I recently passed through DFW airport.

That explains the other thread. Babes can't keep their clothes on around you, even if only your essence remains.

Fish 03-26-2025 08:08 PM

Rain Man got measles from a naked crazy woman's La Tiara taco?

notorious 03-26-2025 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011222)
These people…. How would you describe their appearance?

Aside from measle-y


Untucked shirts and velcro shoes. I haven't pieced together the correlation between these attributes and skin AIDS but it should become clear soon.

Rain Man 03-26-2025 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011279)
That explains the other thread. Babes can't keep their clothes on around you, even if only your essence remains.

Every woman I encounter gets naked. Usually it's when they go to bed that night or shower the following morning, so I need to get the timing down better. But the naked part is the big hurdle that I've apparently solved.

notorious 03-26-2025 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18011291)
Every woman I encounter gets naked. Usually it's when they go to bed that night or shower the following morning, so I need to get the timing down better. But the naked part is the big hurdle that I've apparently solved.

It's simple: bend time and space.

Pepe Silvia 03-26-2025 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18011285)
Untucked shirts and velcro shoes. I haven't pieced together the correlation between these attributes and skin AIDS but it should become clear soon.

The roof is soft tar.

notorious 03-26-2025 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 18011295)
The roof is soft tar.

Ha Haaaaa!!!!!

jdubya 03-26-2025 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18011028)
I remember when vaccines weren't a political issue.

The good ole days of 2019 and earlier.

The good old days have been gone since 1990

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag (Post 18011098)
Brought on by the open border policies of the prior administration

/thread

HonestChieffan 03-26-2025 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 18011274)
I'm old enough to remember when parents would take their kids to chicken pox and measles parties when they were little......

I remember kids who had polio

Bowser 03-26-2025 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 18011318)
I remember kids who had polio

Now explain the difference between polio, chicken pox, and the measles.

Titty Meat 03-26-2025 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 18011260)
I started boosting my boosters with rooster booster from QuikTrip. Highly recommend triple masking if you’re gonna brave one of those petri dish stores though

Take a rino pill and hit up a gloryhole

HonestChieffan 03-26-2025 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 18011324)
Now explain the difference between polio, chicken pox, and the measles.

all three have amazing effective vaccines

There is no rational reason to allow a child to be at risk

However, we know there are ant ivax people who enjoy the right for their kids to be sick, possibly die or become crippled for life For rational parents, we can protect or children with safe and effective vaccines

jdubya 03-26-2025 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 18011332)
all three have amazing effective vaccines

There is no rational reason to allow a child to be at risk

However, we know there are ant ivax people who enjoy the right for their kids to be sick, possibly die or become crippled for life For rational parents, we can protect or children with safe and effective vaccines

Do you understand the difference between very old vaccines that have been effective for decades vs the brand new covid vax that was aggressively pushed?

(Im not arguing pro or con on the covid vax)

I'm simply wondering if you genuinely dont understand the difference and human nature.

There is a % of the population that are "anti vax" for all vaccines but that is a pretty small number in the big picture.

HonestChieffan 03-26-2025 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 18011338)
Do you understand the difference between very old vaccines that have been effective for decades vs the brand new covid vax that was aggressively pushed?

(Im not arguing pro or con on the covid vax)

I'm simply wondering if you genuinely dont understand the difference and human nature.

There is a % of the population that are "anti vax" for all vaccines but that is a pretty small number in the big picture.

yes. but this thread is not about covid vax and all the surrounding stuff.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-26-2025 09:09 PM

When I was a kid we laughed at the measles.

All getting the measles meant was getting to stay home and read comic books while the rest of the suckers were in school.

It was nothing. We almost hoped we'd get it.

Only the genetically weak have anything to worry about. The type of frail people who die from colds.

ShortRoundChief 03-26-2025 09:12 PM

lol. It’s lasted this long… I’m starting to feel like the mods are inviting more dc shit in. Off season entertainment perhaps? Sexual frustration? Perhaps. Irritating me? Most likely.

jdubya 03-26-2025 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 18011342)
yes. but this thread is not about covid vax and all the surrounding stuff.

Fair enough. Today when you hear "anti vax" it is usually about the most recent years. My point is I dont think very many folks are against the traditional MMRs that have been around for decades.


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