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FloridaMan88 03-10-2025 12:34 PM

Sam Darnold to Seattle
 
Just heard on NFL Radio.

Three years, $110.5 million, $55 million guaranteed.

FloridaMan88 03-10-2025 12:42 PM

Schefter just updated the total amount of the contract… $100.5 million.

scho63 03-10-2025 12:44 PM

That is a little bit of a surprise

Titty Meat 03-10-2025 12:48 PM

Sam Cassel dude is cheeks

TLO 03-10-2025 01:12 PM

LMAO

RedinTexas 03-10-2025 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17994707)
Schefter just updated the total amount of the contract… $100.5 million.

Pretty nice for a guy that was considered a total bust in his first contract.

notorious 03-10-2025 01:14 PM

If he's a bridge while they develop someone it's ok. If they think he's the answer than ROFL.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2025 01:14 PM

I actually think this is strangely a decent move. Turn darnold into a pure game manager and lean heavily into running behind walker/charbonnet. It’s better than last year where they were way too aggressive passing behind a mid qb. Seattle not competing for anything but it seems a better fit for their team than geno

BWillie 03-10-2025 01:17 PM

This guy sucks.

New World Order 03-10-2025 01:26 PM

Hes going to return to his old form in Seattle

Deberg_1990 03-10-2025 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17994768)
This guy sucks.

I hope he dies!!!!!

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 01:32 PM

I don't think that's a bad deal.

I think Darnold has mid-tier ability and if he's protected he's capable of making a lot of throws that other QBs in that tier can't.

Seattle has a pretty strong OL.

If you aren't trying to make him throw it 40+ times/gm, you should be in nice shape. And it's a short term deal so you can still sniff around for a long-term option. Moreover, he's young enough that if he shows last year (in aggregate) was no fluke, he can be your long-term guy going forward.

Geno was trying to get a new deal. Given where Seattle is in the competitive cycle, I think they were better served dealing Geno and getting a guy with more ceiling in Darnold (who's also much younger) in Darnold while also getting a decent pick in return for Smith.

kcgreene 03-10-2025 01:34 PM

Honestly, this surprises me. The play for Seattle seemed obvious after trading Geno. Bridge Start Sam Howell, whom they traded for, while you draft and develop your guy this year.

scho63 03-10-2025 01:58 PM

What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing? :hmmm:

TwistedChief 03-10-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17994812)
What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing? :hmmm:

Younger.

threebag 03-10-2025 02:07 PM

Geno < Darnold

Sassy Squatch 03-10-2025 02:10 PM

Geno was asking for 45 million AAV. Made all the sense for Seattle do do this

Mecca 03-10-2025 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17994812)
What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing? :hmmm:

They got a 3rd round pick...

This team is going to be built around riding Walker and Charbonet while building a high level D.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17994812)
What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing? :hmmm:

Little if anything.

Some youth and some upside.

But they got him to say yes to a 2 year deal. Geno was evidently asking for 3 on top of the year he has left.

And someday we'll start to realize that 'mobile' means shit in terms of making life easy on your OL. Geno is a lot like Watson in that he's not as mobile as people think, he zeroes in on his targets and waits for them to get open and he holds onto the ball too long.

Really nice thrower -- really bad processor. That's hellish for OL. And Darnold may ultimately not be much better in that regard.

But the Seahawks got a younger QB with shorter term and more upside as well as a 3rd round pick. The downside? Absolutely nothing at all. They weren't going to acccomplish anything with Geno that they couldnt' accomplish with Darnold. If anything, their ceiling is a little higher and their floor a little lower, which is only a good thing for a rebuilding squad that was trending towards QB purgatory.

Megatron96 03-10-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17994812)
What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing? :hmmm:



He has a stronger arm, and I think he’s just a tad quicker scrambling. That said, I don’t think he’s an upgrade.

Pepe Silvia 03-10-2025 02:20 PM

Seattle just lost their Wild Card game.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2025 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17994786)
Honestly, this surprises me. The play for Seattle seemed obvious after trading Geno. Bridge Start Sam Howell, whom they traded for, while you draft and develop your guy this year.

Seattle is kind of in that no man’s land where they’re good enough to still compete. It’s kind of like throwing in the towel when you know you can win games with Alex smith.

Geno is a better qb than darnold. But it felt like a really weird fit. He wants to push the ball but Seattle has the horses to be a really really good running team. Until they find a true qbotf a game manager makes more sense than a gunslinger.

loochy 03-10-2025 02:30 PM

Complete mediocrity is worth $55 million guaranteed.

Easy 6 03-10-2025 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17994782)
I don't think that's a bad deal.

I think Darnold has mid-tier ability and if he's protected he's capable of making a lot of throws that other QBs in that tier can't.

Seattle has a pretty strong OL.

If you aren't trying to make him throw it 40+ times/gm, you should be in nice shape. And it's a short term deal so you can still sniff around for a long-term option. Moreover, he's young enough that if he shows last year (in aggregate) was no fluke, he can be your long-term guy going forward.

Geno was trying to get a new deal. Given where Seattle is in the competitive cycle, I think they were better served dealing Geno and getting a guy with more ceiling in Darnold (who's also much younger) in Darnold while also getting a decent pick in return for Smith.

He's Matt Ryan reborn, with a decent cast around him he can win you ten or so games year in and out

KCJake 03-10-2025 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17994894)
Complete mediocrity is worth $55 million guaranteed.

It's that or $30 million for Justin Fields. Double edge sword to say the least haha

RunKC 03-10-2025 04:37 PM

The Seahawks haven’t drafted a QB in the first rd in since Rick Mirer in 1993 over 30 years ago. So basically they’ve been the Kansas City Chiefs pre-Mahomes but got lucky for a few years with Russell Wilson working out.

I hope that Mahomes fundamentally changes the philosophy for this franchise bc you have to take shots at a 1st rd QB if you ever want a good one long term.

Chris Meck 03-10-2025 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17994995)
He's Matt Ryan reborn, with a decent cast around him he can win you ten or so games year in and out

Oh, no, no, no.

Darnold is nowhere even close to Matt Ryan.

lcarus 03-10-2025 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17994884)
Seattle is kind of in that no man’s land where they’re good enough to still compete. It’s kind of like throwing in the towel when you know you can win games with Alex smith.

Geno is a better qb than darnold. But it felt like a really weird fit. He wants to push the ball but Seattle has the horses to be a really really good running team. Until they find a true qbotf a game manager makes more sense than a gunslinger.

They should be a good running team. Charbonnet is solid. I don't know what's up with Kenneth Walker. He lit the world on fire his first couple of games and then injuries messed with him the rest of the season.

Easy 6 03-10-2025 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17995146)
Oh, no, no, no.

Darnold is nowhere even close to Matt Ryan.

Wha, c'mon man... Ryan was the king of that just below elite tier, a Madden 85-88 at best

Thats Darnold on his current trajectory, though fighting through a Seattle rebuild could quickly derail that trajectory

Chris Meck 03-10-2025 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17995237)
Wha, c'mon man... Ryan was the king of that just below elite tier, a Madden 86-88 at best

Thats Darnold on his current trajectory, though fighting through a Seattle rebuild could quickly derail that trajectory

Darnold is a flash in the pan.

He won't do anything near that again.

Ryan had a long stretch of just below elite play. Years of it.

Easy 6 03-10-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17995239)
Darnold is a flash in the pan.

He won't do anything near that again.

Ryan had a long stretch of just below elite play. Years of it.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't

He just keeps sticking around and showing signs of improvement

His ceiling is Matt Ryan, and he can reach it on the right team IMO

Sassy Squatch 03-10-2025 06:06 PM

Nah, he's right. The career year that Darnold just had is slightly better than Matt Ryan's career averages. Ryan averaged 4562 yards and a 28/13 career TD/INT ratio, Darnold got 4319 and 35/12 in by far his best season ever

Ron Mexico 03-10-2025 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17995265)
Nah, he's right. The career year that Darnold just had is slightly better than Matt Ryan's career averages. Ryan averaged 4562 yards and a 28/13 career TD/INT ratio, Darnold got 4319 and 35/12 in by far his best season ever

Wow, that's hard to believe. Darnild really was basically left for dead post NYJ

Easy 6 03-10-2025 08:01 PM

Seriously man, before Mahomes we would've been BEGGING for a Darnold

Just some elementary display of basic competence would've been all it took to send us all wild, it was once that bad here

Rebuilding Seattle did well to claim this guy IMO

BWillie 03-10-2025 08:15 PM

Darnold was helped IMMENSELY by the Vikings system and talent.

He won't be near as effective in Seattle. Maybe a 87 QB rating guy.

Bump 03-10-2025 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17995412)
Darnold was helped IMMENSELY by the Vikings system and talent.

He won't be near as effective in Seattle. Maybe a 87 QB rating guy.

true and does Seattle even have any WR's that are good still?

There's no shot that he replicates what he did with the Vikings.

warpaint* 03-11-2025 06:24 AM

So why didn’t the Raiders just sign Darnold and save their 3r pick? I know it takes two to tango but I really don’t u/s that move for a very limited player. Seahawks get a 3r pick and sign a younger comparable player. Neither are winning anything but the latter seems obviously smarter.

chiefzilla1501 03-11-2025 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17995605)
So why didn’t the Raiders just sign Darnold and save their 3r pick? I know it takes two to tango but I really don’t u/s that move for a very limited player. Seahawks get a 3r pick and sign a younger comparable player. Neither are winning anything but the latter seems obviously smarter.

I mean, neither are contenders with these QBs. But I think darnold needs to be dialed back into a scripted game manager. And geno needs to gun sling. So I think they both ended up in the place that suits them better.

kccrow 03-11-2025 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17995417)
true and does Seattle even have any WR's that are good still?

There's no shot that he replicates what he did with the Vikings.

Jaxon Smith-Njigba is damned good.

You'd have to think hey'll focus on getting a couple of WRs in FA and the draft. They really don't have too many other pure holes in their roster, mostly just need fo focus on trying to improve some areas.

Sassy Squatch 03-11-2025 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17995605)
So why didn’t the Raiders just sign Darnold and save their 3r pick? I know it takes two to tango but I really don’t u/s that move for a very limited player. Seahawks get a 3r pick and sign a younger comparable player. Neither are winning anything but the latter seems obviously smarter.

Pete Carroll wanted Geno in particular is my assumption.

chiefzilla1501 03-11-2025 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17995412)
Darnold was helped IMMENSELY by the Vikings system and talent.

He won't be near as effective in Seattle. Maybe a 87 QB rating guy.

Well yeah but he’s not gonna get a team like that. But in Minnesota you’re absolutely nuts if you’re not feeding your WRs constantly. In Seattle darnold can sit back and let the RBs run the show. Seattle doesn’t have to put darnold front and center

TLO 03-11-2025 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17995611)
Well yeah but he’s not gonna get a team like that. But in Minnesota you’re absolutely nuts if you’re not feeding your WRs constantly. In Seattle darnold can sit back and let the RBs run the show. Seattle doesn’t have to put darnold front and center

And their ceiling is probably an NFC Division game.

Welcome to hell.

scho63 03-11-2025 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17994995)
He's Matt Ryan reborn, with a decent cast around him he can win you ten or so games year in and out

Don't agree with this ....:doh!:

chiefzilla1501 03-11-2025 10:02 AM

What I don’t get is why Seattle doesn’t recognize the moves that got them Russell Wilson. They traded valuable picks for Charlie whitehurst. Even still they gave Matt Flynn a mega contract. And yet they still drafted Russell relatively early and had the balls to start him even after all they sunk on Flynn/whitehurst

For that matter I still do not understand why franchises settle for middling QBs. Signing darnold isn’t the worst move if you commit to a relentless search for a young qb to take his place.


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