The day Matt Cassell defied Todd Haley
 

What a story!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/M_Cassel16?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@M_Cassel16</a> recalls one of the most intense conversations he’s ever had with Todd Haley. 🔊<br><br>“Lots to Say” podcast with <a href="https://twitter.com/mrBobbyBones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mrBobbyBones</a> 🔗 <a href="https://t.co/wzxkoT5H5I">https://t.co/wzxkoT5H5I</a><a href="https://twitter.com/iHeartRadio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iHeartRadio</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/iHeartPodcasts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iHeartPodcasts</a> <a href="https://t.co/48XZjeTrEy">pic.twitter.com/48XZjeTrEy</a></p>&mdash; NFL Network (@nflnetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/1897774759892357329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Todd Haley: Still living off that McDonald's money. PIMP! :D

Since the NFL is the pinnacle of the sport, it's tempting to think that NFL teams are well run by professionals. But apparently not. I bet 25 percent of current NFL teams (not the Chiefs, obviously) do stuff like this now.

Chiefs were ahead by 20 points when this happened. Cassel should have respected the coaching staff. Instead he knew he was Pioli's boy and Haley couldn't really touch him.

Whatever lesson Haley was trying to teach Cassel that day didn't sink in. The results were clear in the postseason and in the following two seasons.

****ed up organization.

In the next two weeks Cassel was 20 of 51 for 185 yards and 5 INT.

All Haley's fault, I'm sure.

Wonder if Cassel has a garage or curbs

He does, I'm sure, but he also has to live with being the worst QB in KC Chiefs history.

Tyler Palko says hi.

Matt Cassel or Brodie Croyle?

Some are starting to say Croyle…..

Casshole was worse than Palko or Croyle because no one ever expected anything out of them.

Mark Vlasic says hi.

Cassel was the Darth Vader to Pioli's Palpatine in spreading Patriot AIDS throughout the Chiefs galaxy

**** him.

Good call.

So is Mahomes = Luke Skywalker, Andy Reid = Yoda, Kelce = Han Solo, Taylor Swift = Leia, and Chris Jones = Chewbacca????

career .500 record

started one game in KC, in which he had a 100.2 QB rating

does not compute

Mark Castle is the worst because he was put in the position to start for 4 ****ing years. Palko, Croyle, hell... not even Blackledge did as much damage to the team and/or the fanbase as Mark Castle.

I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

Nobody respected Haley and that's the problem with Haley

Tyler Thigpen says how you doing?

That was Pioli's fault. He created that culture.

Haley was probably in over his head but he had a much better NFL career than Cassel. The teams he coached on won at a 61 percent clip.

I would say it was more of Haleys problem considering he couldn't keep a job anywhere because everyone hated him but yeah Pioli should have never hired him

My brother is a Steelers fan. He has stated multiple times that he would take Haley over any OC they have had since him. I 100% agree with him.

Haley is a resounding asshole... but an effective OC.

Sorry but it's always blackledge. He was such a wash the chiefs gave up on first round qbs for 3 decades.

But cassel was awful.

Some of us appreciate this current team more after experiencing those Todd Haley years and even the Herm Edwards years right before it lol. Even the good years under Dick Vermeil and Marty only ended in disappointment.

He had a HOF QB in his prime, prime bell, a great WR and one of the better lines the steelers have had in awhile. Even big ben admitted he would brush off some of Haleys calls. Hard to imagine they'd take over Arians who IIRC helped take them to 2 super bowls

To this day... I am completely bewildered by the fact that Castle had a career post KC. 7 more seasons to be exact.

Fun Facts:

Only 1 of those 7 years did he throw more TDs than INTs. - 2013 Vikings

Only 1 of those 7 years did he have a QBR above 52.3 - 2016 Titans (30 for 51 / 2TD 2INT / 66.6 QBR)

He stole a further $18m from 5 franchises in 7 years after KC. Alas, none of them AFCW teams.

His career longest pass was 79 yards... but it was a catch and run by Cordarrelle Patterson and it came in a, SURPRISE, loss.

Has the most punchable face in NFL history.

Cracked 7+ YPA only twice in his miserable career (not including his 24 attempts in his rookie season). In contrast... Mahomes has dipped below 7 YPA just once (last season).

He only played 3 complete seasons over 15 years and "earned" $65.5 million dollars. Most of it gifted to his by a shitbag named Pioli.

Holds the official record for having his likeness on a sticker that was placed in a urinal.

Ok... I made that last one up but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it were true.

Haley still gets undeserved faint praise from Chiefs fans. People will say he was a bad coach and some fan will come in and say, "Yeah, he was bad, but at least he knew it and tried to do something about it."

Yelling and screaming and having performative temper tantrums like the one Cassel described isn't "doing something about it" if that's the only coaching tool you have. It is, however, the most visually obvious example of coaching that fans can see on game day. They see Haley yelling at his players and it makes them feel better because it makes them feel like THEY'RE yelling at the players.

Still, though... **** Matt Cassel. Howdy doody douche ass was always doing all the spouting leadership crap through his horrible stretches of bad and ineffective play. Talentless prick didn't understand that your team follows you because you can actually hit the broad side of a goddamn barn at a consistent clip, not because you say stupid insufferable affirmations on the sideline and in the locker room. Totally tone deaf.

One of my biggest regrets in life is I wasn't at that game in 2012 to cheer his injury.

Ok.. but I said SINCE Haley. Arians was the OC in Pitt before Haley.

It's more than 25%.

There's only four to five teams every year that have a chance.

Haley is the unloveable stooge. You don't hate him, you just can't stand him.

Pioli and his butt buddy Cassel can get ****ed. Say what you want about Haley but what they did was straight up Patriot Way evil shit.

I'm not sure why everyone is only on Cassel. They both sucked! Didn't Haley end up taking a high school job?!

We gave Cassel nearly 70 million dollars. He's absolutely the biggest disaster this franchise has ever seen.

This is a good thread to repost this all-important video

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Yep. It's kind of like...who do you hate more? That chick you had a couple dates with that smelled like an ashtray...or the raging psycho you divorced?

Haley went to go be the Steelers OC and immediately pounded the Chiefs the next season in a glorious nationally televised revenge game.

Haley had VALUE as a coach.

Matt Cassel was a Great Value brand NFL QB.

Here’s some troll ammo for anybody who wants it:

Only one QB in NFL history has thrown for 400+ yards in consecutive games. That QB is Matt Cassel.

Yep. One of those weird stats that is bordering on unjust. You think you can’t be as bad as Cassel was at your job and hold a notable distinction like that. And yet here we are and there it is.

First time I heard that I thought “What’s next? Is Mike Cloud the only RB in NFL history with consecutive 200 yard games?”

I was old enough to get into football and actually know what was going on around 2001. I feel bad for the old heads that suffered longer than I did.

This goes in under the "wow, interesting" category that also holds Elvis Grbac's 500-yard game.

Reading this thread just brings me back to the darkness that was the Herm Edwards, Haley, Crennel days where we were trying to be a wanna be Patriots-light franchise (but not having KEY ingredient Brady). ((Shudders)) Candy wrappers sitting under stairwells

Who was that guy who got an email or whatever it was that said "your choice to be a fan"

Pretty sure that was teedubyah

Don't down vote me you WILL respect me

I actually find all of this hilarious, just highlights the entire shitshow that time was.

Todd Haley is the guy that turned Derrick Johnson into a stud.

Kinda off topic, but that podcast host seems like a total chode. Not as big of a chode as Mark, but really big.

Zero desire to listen to that ****head. Give two shits. From 1970 until Mahomes, its all dead to me.

I wish they’d both dock enough other and get stuck on a train track by their weenies.

Both of them can eat peen

they both equally sucks!

I loved me the green era with priest and company.

Ducking defense.

Just another group of heartbreakers......:(

bit of a stretch to think DJ wouldn't have been any good if it weren't for Todd Haley.

DJ and Bowe were both lazy and underachieving before Todd Haley.

I remember DJ being in the doghouse his rookie year. But he was a 1st round pick for a reason.

I must be pretty lucky that I never had to go through the Cassel years. He wasn't only a terrible, overpaid player but he was also an arsehole. **** him.

Two of the worst examples of leadership I've ever seen from a QB:

1. Being booed by the fans and mouthing 'shut the **** up' during a game.

2. Holding a post game press conference after the same game, in which he threw 4 INT, and saying, straight-faced "I graded out perfectly."

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...0912130kan.htm

They deserved each other they’re both massive jerks.

the only player I ever hoped got injured. That's pretty uncharacteristic of me and if I went back in time I probably wouldn't have posted a bunch of times that I hoped he got hurt. But it was the only way that he was going to get off the field. Dark times.

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Thanks Clay, we can't forget this gem.

10 defenders within 7 yards of the line of scrimmage

with 1:08 left in the game LMAO

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Two guys that stink. Matt was right that day though. Todd was a disaster idiot of an hc.

Was he?

The Chiefs dominated the game. Coaching staff deserves some credit.

Cassel made a mistake and didn't like getting called on it, is how I read this. Well, **** him and the horse he rode in on. His career was a mistake.

He also ****ed around with the chain of command and whether he intended it or not, he sowed distrust and disrespect towards the coaching staff.

When Reid told Mahomes to go get an x-ray in the Jacksonville playoff game and Mahomes told him, "**** no!" guess what happened? Mahomes got the x-ray. What if Mahomes pulled a Cassel and hobbled onto the field anyway? It says to the other players that you can indeed tell your coaches to **** off and get your way. And that's what happened with Cassel and Haley.

And that shit isn't written anywhere in the Patriot bible.

The guy who sent it was the Missouri western AD eventually

Steve Bono was malnourished in Kansas City. (Bad restaurants.) You missed that one too.

At no point was T0dd Haley respected and at no point should he have been a leader of men.

He was a joke as a human and his time as HC was a complete failure for obvious reasons.

Hell of a golfer, tho.

LMAO The list of tools we've had

So between cassel and Haley, who is the bigger villain in Chiefs history?

He said that "The worst BBQ place in San Francisco was better than KC's best."

Best restaurant. Not best bbq

I want to read the article "The day gblowfish defied Todd Haley" ROFL

That howdie doodie MF can eat a bag of dicks.

This drive was hilariously bad, but that long PI on Lewis was total horseshit. Glad it worked out how I'd did, though!

Grbac once publicly blamed his teammates for dropping the ball. Bono was an asshole.

I'd rank Cassel above those two in terms of leadership.

Neither had any business being in the NFL as a coach or professional QB. Cassell was a lifetime mediocre backup QB in college and yet somehow smuggled himself into the NFL and rode a magic carpet into Arrowhead. Haley was a petulant anti-social type-b personality that got a job with the Jets because of his dad's (deep) connections. You could say Pioli was the real villain but than again he's even more of a pretender at GM. Never should have been hired. So then it goes to the Owner. In 2009 Clark had only been managing operations for a handful of years and to me it seems as if he got hoodwinked by riff-raff associated with Pacells and the Patriots. He's done better since.

It baffles me that we made the playoffs in 2010 under Cassel and Haley. If I was a Hall of Fame voter, this would be my main argument for Jamaal Charles.

Asshole was pissed that he was pulled in that Colts playoff game. You threw 4 picks bitch.