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Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 06:39 AM

How long will Travis Hunter last as a two way player in the NFL?
 
My guess is one or two years. Eventually he’s going to have to choose a primary position. The NFL is just too physical. Or he’s going to have to be load managed of some sort.

Your thoughts?

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RedinTexas 03-03-2025 07:58 AM

Depends heavily on how successful he is at going both ways. If he's not nearly as good at one position, it will probably end quickly. Likewise, if he's only mediocre at both positions, then one will probably be dropped to concentrate on the other. If he's really good at both positions, it will last for a long time.

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17985695)
Depends heavily on how successful he is at going both ways. If he's not nearly as good at one position, it will probably end quickly. Likewise, if he's only mediocre at both positions, then one will probably be dropped to concentrate on the other. If he's really good at both positions, it will last for a long time.

Agreed. Which one is he better at? Seems that being a good CB is more
Valuable than a WR. But I could be wrong or that’s going to vary by team

Buehler445 03-03-2025 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17985695)
Depends heavily on how successful he is at going both ways. If he's not nearly as good at one position, it will probably end quickly. Likewise, if he's only mediocre at both positions, then one will probably be dropped to concentrate on the other. If he's really good at both positions, it will last for a long time.

Frankly, it's stupid to try it. Any coordinator worth half a **** is going to run a system that takes legitimate work to operate properly. If not, it's just a matter of time before that sister****er is fired.

His best move is to pick one (probably WR if both are equal, WR careers are typically longer than CBs) and IF he kicks ass and picks up the system quickly, then after a year MAYBE run some Troy Brown with the Cheatriots type action.

But full time 2 way action, almost certainly ends up in the following:

1. Limited Snaps that will severely limit the effectiveness of his elite talent OR Injury.

2. Limited effectiveness due to inability to learn 2 systems.

3. Limited effectiveness due to stamina issues.

SurroundedByMorons 03-03-2025 10:16 AM

Zero chance he can start and play an entire game at 2 positions. Zero.
He could, though, play critical downs on either side of the ball when needed. Say he starts at CB and could come in on a critical offensive play, it would give his team massive flexibility. And fun to watch as a fan, this is entertainment after all.

kcgreene 03-03-2025 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SurroundedByMorons (Post 17985779)
Zero chance he can start and play an entire game at 2 positions. Zero.
He could, though, play critical downs on either side of the ball when needed. Say he starts at CB and could come in on a critical offensive play, it would give his team massive flexibility. And fun to watch as a fan, this is entertainment after all.

This is what will probably happen, or something similar.

IF he's a 2 Way Player in the NFL, He'll most likely play Corner and will be available on certain packages on offense. I feel like it'll be a lot easier to incorporate someone of his skillset into certain packages on the offense while being an 'every down' kind of player on defense than the other way around.

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 10:27 AM

Deion Sanders played a little WR in the NFL. But it wasn’t many snaps.

ThaVirus 03-03-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17985702)
Agreed. Which one is he better at? Seems that being a good CB is more
Valuable than a WR. But I could be wrong or that’s going to vary by team

In general I think CB is more valuable as I think elite CBs are harder to find, but obviously WRs get laid substantially more.

It’ll be interesting to see how his career shakes out. I’ve never seen a prospect quite like this before.

notorious 03-03-2025 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17985789)
Deion Sanders played a little WR in the NFL. But it wasn’t many snaps.

Yep. He made the defense pay attention to him, so it worked in some regard.

This kid doesn't have Deion's ability, though.

KCUnited 03-03-2025 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17985796)
In general I think CB is more valuable as I think elite CBs are harder to find, but obviously WRs get laid substantially more.

It’ll be interesting to see how his career shakes out. I’ve never seen a prospect quite like this before.

Hopefully his pullout game is stronger than Reeks if he plays WR

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17985796)
but obviously WRs get laid substantially more.

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Yes, WRs probably do get laid more.

🤣 🤣

ThrobProng 03-03-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17985789)
Deion Sanders played a little WR in the NFL. But it wasn’t many snaps.

So did Dale Carter on rare occasion.

Speaking of, this kid makes Dale Carter seem like a rocket surgeon.

Jewish Rabbi 03-03-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17985823)
Yes, WRs probably do get laid more.

🤣 🤣

Don’t tell Antonio Cromartie

ThaVirus 03-03-2025 11:29 AM

Whatever, I’m leaving it lol

If you’re getting paid, you’re getting laid so it’s all pretty accurate anyway.

TribalElder 03-03-2025 11:48 AM

I think he will be able to do it until he gets hit hard as WR and dinged up

then the team is out 2 positions when 1 player drops

Direckshun 03-03-2025 12:13 PM

I think his entire career.

You can play him at CB full time, and then give him a package of plays at WR.

Pitt Gorilla 03-03-2025 01:02 PM

It depends on when he gets injured and how bad that injury is. It's going to happen and it's more likely to happen sooner when one is out there more.

Mecca 03-03-2025 01:07 PM

It mainly depends where he goes, I would assume if you asked Deion about it he'd say he could have played a bunch of WR snaps but his coaches "wouldn't let him".

FloridaMan88 03-03-2025 01:17 PM

He’ll need to focus on one position first.

It’s not just showing up on game day and playing both positions… it starts during the week with meetings/gameplan installs.

Mecca 03-03-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17985962)
He’ll need to focus on one position first.

It’s not just showing up on game day and playing both positions… it starts during the week with meetings/gameplan installs.

Well lucky for him playing CB isn't really a position that requires a ton of thinking.

kccrow 03-03-2025 03:37 PM

He won't be able to play both full-time in the NFL. He could play CB with some plays here and there at WR or vice versa, but never both. The game is too demanding at that level and too physical.

All things equal, play WR because they ultimately get paid more. If I'm an NFL coach, though, I probably want him at CB full-time and work him into some things offensively. Manufactured touches and go routes are what he made his living at as a WR. Those are pretty easy installs for him to be involved offensively early on.

BlackHelicopters 03-03-2025 04:28 PM

Won’t be a Chief, so don’t care.

Shields68 03-03-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17985895)
I think his entire career.

You can play him at CB full time, and then give him a package of plays at WR.

In todays game even a package of plays requires a lot of practice time. Just having some rythm with the QB and knowing your route options ... unless you are just going to run a go route every time.

May just as easy to go the other way, full time wr and CB on third downs for a man coverage team.

BWillie 03-03-2025 04:37 PM

I sure hope so. He is one of my favorite players. He played the meaningless bowl game and wants to keep playing both ways.

That is fkn awesome if you ask me.

Rain Man 03-04-2025 09:25 AM

The comments here make me curious about something.

Which do you think is the actual constraining factor against playing two ways for the entire game? Is it the physical wear and tear and injury risk on a player, or is it the ability to understand and act on game plans in the modern NFL?

I recognize that both come into play, but one of those has to be the actual tipping point constraint.

Hayneplane 03-04-2025 09:30 AM

I think the main constraining factor is that it goes against the established thinking of at least the last 40 years so neither coaches or players often even consider the viability of it.

NFL is not aerobically testing in a way that most other high contact sports are so it would more come down to someone having the dedication and mental processing skills to attend meetings on both sides of the ball and understand 2 playbooks and concepts.

Rainbarrel 03-04-2025 09:40 AM

Too good for Special Teams. Pansy

kccrow 03-04-2025 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17986781)
The comments here make me curious about something.

Which do you think is the actual constraining factor against playing two ways for the entire game? Is it the physical wear and tear and injury risk on a player, or is it the ability to understand and act on game plans in the modern NFL?

I recognize that both come into play, but one of those has to be the actual tipping point constraint.

I'd argue the physical/injury risk component.

ROYC75 03-04-2025 08:02 PM

If so, it's the NFL.
Not
For
Long

SurroundedByMorons 03-05-2025 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17986814)
I'd argue the physical/injury risk component.

Agreed, physical impact is too much. I am certain the mental part would also be an issue in the NFL, but he has proven that he can handle it at a pretty high level already. I have read that he is a very bright kid.

Deberg_1990 03-05-2025 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SurroundedByMorons (Post 17988290)
Agreed, physical impact is too much. I am certain the mental part would also be an issue in the NFL, but he has proven that he can handle it at a pretty high level already. I have read that he is a very bright kid.

It’s going to depend on the organization that drafts him.

But generally most teams won’t want him playing full time two way player. Too much money and higher injury risk involved obviously. I’ve heard the most like scenario is him becoming a full time CB with a handful of offensive snaps for him.

htismaqe 03-05-2025 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17986781)
The comments here make me curious about something.

Which do you think is the actual constraining factor against playing two ways for the entire game? Is it the physical wear and tear and injury risk on a player, or is it the ability to understand and act on game plans in the modern NFL?

I recognize that both come into play, but one of those has to be the actual tipping point constraint.

It's both.

Of course, there's the higher risk of injury. But there's also the prep work. How is he going to attend both WR and DB meetings if they're at the same times? How is he going to practice with the 1's?

comochiefsfan 03-05-2025 11:05 AM

No way he plays both ways full time.

Likely he’ll be an every down corner and then he’ll have a couple packages where he gets in the game a few times at receiver.

George Liquor 03-05-2025 02:20 PM

He'll probably do what Champ Bailey did.


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