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Sassy Squatch 02-27-2025 01:14 PM

Chiefs tagging Trey Smith
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have informed Pro-Bowl guard Trey Smith that he will be franchise tagged, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1895189607441899685?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pablo 02-27-2025 01:15 PM

I’m delighted!

Or pissed!!

RaidersOftheCellar 02-27-2025 01:16 PM

Ugh...

Is Veach trying to screw the pooch?

TambaBerry 02-27-2025 01:16 PM

I don't want him back for that much you serious right now

htismaqe 02-27-2025 01:16 PM

That's a $23M cap hit right at the start of free agency.

Mecca 02-27-2025 01:17 PM

They obviously weren't lying when they said they wouldn't be players in FA.

TambaBerry 02-27-2025 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17981590)
That's a $23M cap hit right at the start of free agency.

And we don't even have that right

BenoniBenko 02-27-2025 01:18 PM

Good. He's literally one of the best players on the team and one of the best interior linemen in the league

Hammock Parties 02-27-2025 01:19 PM

In Virch we trust

cabletech94 02-27-2025 01:19 PM

Veatch you crazy bastard!!!

Or……..

Veatch is a mad, insane-man!!!

Fish 02-27-2025 01:20 PM

https://awfulannouncing.com/wp-conte...egy-cotton.jpg

In58men 02-27-2025 01:21 PM

People still doubt Veach?

ROFL

Wisconsin_Chief 02-27-2025 01:21 PM

I honestly think they'll have a deal done by free agency. I also don't understand how anyone can be so upset about this team retaining their home grown, elite talent. If they want Trey Smith here, then he should be.

wazu 02-27-2025 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17981609)
People still doubt Veach?

ROFL

We didn't even win the Super Bowl this year! Veach is clearly washed and this move just cements that he has lost his mind.

comochiefsfan 02-27-2025 01:23 PM

Great.

What is the plan at left tackle?

Dunerdr 02-27-2025 01:23 PM

Veach is making sure that Danna’s not his only draft pick that’s resigned. ****

Woogieman 02-27-2025 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17981592)
They obviously weren't lying when they said they wouldn't be players in FA.

Wait...I though BV said FA was going to be theitr draft this year?

louie aguiar 02-27-2025 01:23 PM

Pretty clear that the Chiefs have very little confidence in last year’s second round pick

tyton75 02-27-2025 01:23 PM

I love Trey and I'm glad he's staying, but man; that is a TON of money tied up in an O-line that doesn't have a LT

ChiefsHawk 02-27-2025 01:24 PM

Mahomes going to redo his contract and have a 1.5 mil cap hit...

RunKC 02-27-2025 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17981590)
That's a $23M cap hit right at the start of free agency.

Terrible FA class. Nobody worth paying in the 1st wave anyway

If there was ever a year to do this it’s this year

RaidersOftheCellar 02-27-2025 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17981609)
People still doubt Veach?

ROFL

The task is a little different this year than most. They're playing catch-up with an Eagles roster that is obviously far better.

crispystl 02-27-2025 01:27 PM

Any chance it's to trade him? (I'm not exactly sure how all of that works)

New World Order 02-27-2025 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17981610)
I honestly think they'll have a deal done by free agency. I also don't understand how anyone can be so upset about this team retaining their home grown, elite talent. If they want Trey Smith here, then he should be.

People prob wouldn’t care as much if we didn’t have beef slop at LT

KC_Connection 02-27-2025 01:29 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if this is a result of them thinking Kingsley is just a total bust.

Hammock Parties 02-27-2025 01:31 PM

stand down fellas, mahomes gets what he wants

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk0UeRWW...pg&name=medium

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2025 01:31 PM

One of two real outcomes here

Most likely: they found out ____ team was willing to pay more money and Trey would take it, so they paint him into a corner of accepting their deal instead potentially

or

Less likely: he doesn't want to accept their deal now and they decide to trade him

staylor26 02-27-2025 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 17981621)
Pretty clear that the Chiefs have very little confidence in last year’s second round pick

No, that's not clear at all. What's clear is that they aren't confident they can get a long term answer at LT through FA or the draft, and they probably don't want to lose Smith for a short term answer.

They could just as easily want Kingsley to compete at LT, or they want him to replace Thuney next year at LG (where he played week 18).

Rexx 02-27-2025 01:32 PM

Paying 60 mil for the interior of the line is suspect considering they just got rolled in the SB....but I'll trust Veach knows what he is doing.

staylor26 02-27-2025 01:33 PM

Hell, I said it before, but it's entirely possible that Thuney is considering retirement.

Cooter Bailey 02-27-2025 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenoniBenko (Post 17981596)
Good. He's literally one of the best players on the team and one of the best interior linemen in the league

There is a reason he is one of the most wanted free agents. Worth every penny.

Deberg_1990 02-27-2025 01:35 PM

He’s 52-16 as a starter. You don’t let franchise guards get away.

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2025 01:37 PM

I don’t know… we need OL. I feel like guard is a position we can get great value in the draft. Too risky to do this year but we should have had a guy waiting in the wings so we don’t need to pay Trey if we don’t need to. This is one I’m not as crazy about. I like Trey but that’s bonkers how much money we have tied up to our interior OL.

TEX 02-27-2025 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17981610)
I honestly think they'll have a deal done by free agency. I also don't understand how anyone can be so upset about this team retaining their home grown, elite talent. If they want Trey Smith here, then he should be.

Yep. They've thought about it and have a plan.

Mecca 02-27-2025 01:38 PM

I think some people are forgetting that Joe Thuney is 33 years old.

redfan 02-27-2025 01:38 PM

He's really gonna play on the tag? I doubt that.

el borracho 02-27-2025 01:38 PM

Anyone want to throw out hypothetical trade scenarios? Potential trade partners and potential trade value?

penguinz 02-27-2025 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17981660)
Hell, I said it before, but it's entirely possible that Thuney is considering retirement.

Thuney will be extended.

TEX 02-27-2025 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17981671)
I don’t know… we need OL. I feel like guard is a position we can get great value in the draft. Too risky to do this year but we should have had a guy waiting in the wings so we don’t need to pay Trey if we don’t need to. This is one I’m not as crazy about. I like Trey but that’s bonkers how much money we have tied up to our interior OL.

But they don't, so they feel that they need to go with the costly sure thing.

ChiTown 02-27-2025 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexx (Post 17981656)
Paying 60 mil for the interior of the line is suspect considering they just got rolled in the SB....but I'll trust Veach knows what he is doing.

You really want to trust a guy that's only won 3 SB's in the last 6 years? I dunno...

spanky 52 02-27-2025 01:41 PM

Any chance Thuney is retiring?

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2025 01:45 PM

A one year deal isn’t the worst thing as I’d love to see if we can find a way to address Guard some other much cheaper way. Get a year out of Trey and buy time to find some young talent at the position. If the extra year helps us save long term cash it’s worth it

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2025 01:48 PM

There's articles out there right now from teams who were hoping to land Smith that are uh... less than pleased.

Titty Meat 02-27-2025 01:49 PM

Draftubators lost

ForeverIowan 02-27-2025 01:49 PM

Great news! You dont just let a 25 year old franchise guard who is entering his prime walk in free agency for nothing in return. Either you tag and trade or you figure out the cap and have an all pro caliber left guard back to protect Mahomes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs are gearing to get in the top 15 in the draft for their franchise LT. If they are indeed planning to keep Trey, you need to be cheap at left tackle. Stop the musical chairs, give up a future 1st rounder and go get your damn franchise left tackle.

TomBarndtsTwin 02-27-2025 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17981694)
A one year deal isn’t the worst thing as I’d love to see if we can find a way to address Guard some other much cheaper way. Get a year out of Trey and buy time to find some young talent at the position. If the extra year helps us save long term cash it’s worth it

One year of Trey is going to cost $23 million against the cap.

That's $21.5 million more than we paid him last year.

It's going to hamper action in FA unless they've just decided to sit this FA period out. That said, they've got several of their OWN FA's they have to make decisions on.

OKchiefs 02-27-2025 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17981694)
A one year deal isn’t the worst thing as I’d love to see if we can find a way to address Guard some other much cheaper way. Get a year out of Trey and buy time to find some young talent at the position. If the extra year helps us save long term cash it’s worth it

Hamstringing yourself with very little chance now at adequately addressing left tackle and paying almost $90 million in 2025 on an OL that looked like the worst in the league in the Super Bowl sounds like brilliant team building strategy

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2025 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17981679)
But they don't, so they feel that they need to go with the costly sure thing.

Agreed. Hard to argue with the result. But one of the downsides of trying to fill every single role on both sides of the ball is that you miss opportunities to plug low positional value players with cheap but quality replacements. I’d say the same for ILB. And ultimately RB. I’d be fine if these were examples of 3 positions where we find draft value and save us a boatload of cash

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2025 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17981694)
A one year deal isn’t the worst thing as I’d love to see if we can find a way to address Guard some other much cheaper way. Get a year out of Trey and buy time to find some young talent at the position. If the extra year helps us save long term cash it’s worth it

What? No, that's ****ing lunacy. 80 million in cap eaten up by 3 OL that would all be gone after the 2025 season.

suzzer99 02-27-2025 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17981700)
There's articles out there right now from teams who were hoping to land Smith that are uh... less than pleased.

https://media.tenor.com/hG84QGeAAvMA...gor-pay-up.gif

A second round pick should do it I think.

Coochie liquor 02-27-2025 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17981643)
Wouldn't surprise me if this is a result of them thinking Kingsley is just a total bust.

Yet another wasted second round pick! Hooray!

PHOG 02-27-2025 01:53 PM

That's a lot of moolah for the IOL. Might have to break out the void year game.

Gary Cooper 02-27-2025 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17981618)
Great.

What is the plan at left tackle?

Maybe Smith's arms will grow.

ThrobProng 02-27-2025 01:53 PM

Can this piece of shit play left tackle?

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2025 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17981705)
One year of Trey is going to cost $23 million against the cap.

That's $21.5 million more than we paid him last year.

It's going to hamper action in FA unless they've just decided to sit this FA period out. That said, they've got several of their OWN FA's they have to make decisions on.

Id rather go back in time and finding a young replacement who we are confident could replace him. But barring that, I am a big subscriber that if the choice is to overpay for the rights to cut bait early versus paying a more modest but huge contract to a guy you may not necessarily need? Yeah I’m ok with overpaying. We can find creative ways to move other people’s money around. Mahomes is the obvious target.

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2025 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17981716)
Yet another wasted second round pick! Hooray!

Draft classes of 2023 and 2024 are looking pretty brutal right now. Veach absolutely has to get his shit together on that front or the window starts narrowing real quick.

Yo Murphy. 02-27-2025 01:55 PM

Insert Larry David vacillating gif.

Gary Cooper 02-27-2025 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17981700)
There's articles out there right now from teams who were hoping to land Smith that are uh... less than pleased.

Are teams really dying to throw big money at a FA Guard?

I mean which contending team needs a guard as their final piece and can throw that kind of money around? Conversely, which rebuilding team should blow that kind of money on a position that isn't necessary for rebuilding?

Mecca 02-27-2025 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17981728)
Are teams really dying to throw big money at a FA Guard?

I mean which contending team needs a guard as their final piece and can throw that kind of money around? Conversely, which rebuilding team should blow that kind of money on a position that isn't necessary for rebuilding?

Bad teams sure, like Chicago probably would, but they aren't gonna move picks to do it.

smithandrew051 02-27-2025 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17981716)
Yet another wasted second round pick! Hooray!

Chiefs second round picks since 2019:

Hardman
Thornhill
Willie Gay
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Rashee Rice
Kingsley Suamataia

Probably too early to say with Kingsley, but I see one bad pick among the rest (Skyy Moore). The rest were at least competent NFL players who contributed.

That’s a pretty good batting average in the second round.

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2025 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17981710)
What? No, that's ****ing lunacy. 80 million in cap eaten up by 3 OL that would all be gone after the 2025 season.

That’s something we should have been thinking about a few years ago. As it stands right now, we’re likely stuck between either paying a lot to just hold the fort for one more year, taking a big risk with unproven young guys, or either settling or overpaying for some veterans.

If an extra year of pain buys us time to find 2 (hopefully 3) long term cheap quality options it at least makes a little sense

TomBarndtsTwin 02-27-2025 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17981710)
What? No, that's ****ing lunacy. 80 million in cap eaten up by 3 OL that would all be gone after the 2025 season.

But just think of ALL the cap room you'll be creating in 2026! ;)

Gary Cooper 02-27-2025 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17981734)
Chiefs second round picks since 2019:

Hardman
Thornhill
Willie Gay
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Rashee Rice
Kingsley Suamataia

Probably too early to say with Kingsley, but I see one bad pick among the rest (Skyy Moore). The rest were at least competent NFL players who contributed.

That’s a pretty good batting average in the second round.

It's great. Obviously Hardman/Moore were picked instead of better WRs, but it worked out anyway. This team lost one playoff game since drafting Skyy Moore, even though the WR room could have been far better.

Bump 02-27-2025 02:01 PM

well he'll either play again for us or we'll get a draft pick probably

win/win IMO

htismaqe 02-27-2025 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17981742)
well he'll either play again for us or we'll get a draft pick probably

win/win IMO

Or they won't reach a long-term deal and his $23M cap hit will be used as the reason they can't be active in free agency.

Tagging him makes no sense unless a deal is close.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-27-2025 02:04 PM

My gut is telling me "wtf????"

But its also Veach, so ill likely eat my words by the time training camp starts.

smithandrew051 02-27-2025 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17981746)
Or they won't reach a long-term deal and his $23M cap hit will be used as the reason they can't be active in free agency.

Tagging him makes no sense unless a deal is close.

Tagging seemed like the option that wasn’t on the table.

Anyone who brought it up here got shut down pretty quick.

I think you’re right. They either 1) have a trade partner or 2) have a deal and didn’t want him to get cold feet.

TLO 02-27-2025 02:06 PM

WBF

smithandrew051 02-27-2025 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17981726)
Draft classes of 2023 and 2024 are looking pretty brutal right now. Veach absolutely has to get his shit together on that front or the window starts narrowing real quick.

If FAU and Wiley become contributors, things look a lot better

Balto 02-27-2025 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 17981676)
Anyone want to throw out hypothetical trade scenarios? Potential trade partners and potential trade value?

Cowboys need a guard with Zack Martin hanging it up and there has been article that Cowboys might not want to tie up so much money in a record breaking contract for Micah Parsons.

Chiefs get:
Micah Parsons

Dallas gets:
Smith
FAU
#31
2026 1st rounder

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2025 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17981754)
If FAU and Wiley become contributors, things look a lot better

Sure, but absolutely nothing I've seen from either guy makes me believe that's likely. Here's to hoping though, because we REALLY need a couple of those guys to stop being useless fodder on the roster.

comochiefsfan 02-27-2025 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17981726)
Draft classes of 2023 and 2024 are looking pretty brutal right now. Veach absolutely has to get his shit together on that front or the window starts narrowing real quick.

We’re about to find out on Veach here real quick now that the Dorsey core of Mahomes/Kelce/Jones/Hunt/Hill are mostly all gone or are starting to age out of being elite players.

Only Mahomes figures to continue to be here and be elite for more than 2-3 more years.

John Dorsey drafted us 4 Hall of Famers in a 5 year stretch. Absolute insanity.

I play it up as a shtick sometimes for sure, but the man seriously deserves a lot more credit for our run than he gets on here.

ChiefaRoo 02-27-2025 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17981653)
stand down fellas, mahomes gets what he wants

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk0UeRWW...pg&name=medium

Feel my wrath!!! and then feel my bank balance!

tk13 02-27-2025 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17981728)
Are teams really dying to throw big money at a FA Guard?

I mean which contending team needs a guard as their final piece and can throw that kind of money around? Conversely, which rebuilding team should blow that kind of money on a position that isn't necessary for rebuilding?

It did seem like the Chargers were a team that could make it work. They're the opposite of us in that they need interior OL help.

louie aguiar 02-27-2025 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17981734)
Chiefs second round picks since 2019:

Hardman
Thornhill
Willie Gay
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Rashee Rice
Kingsley Suamataia

Probably too early to say with Kingsley, but I see one bad pick among the rest (Skyy Moore). The rest were at least competent NFL players who contributed.

That’s a pretty good batting average in the second round.

Good point. Even though 23 and 24 aren’t shaping us as great draft classes, Veach has a pretty solid draft record overall. I remember Carl was awful in the second round

O.city 02-27-2025 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17981739)
That’s something we should have been thinking about a few years ago. As it stands right now, we’re likely stuck between either paying a lot to just hold the fort for one more year, taking a big risk with unproven young guys, or either settling or overpaying for some veterans.

If an extra year of pain buys us time to find 2 (hopefully 3) long term cheap quality options it at least makes a little sense

So you're saying they shoulda been taking G"s early in the past few rounds recently....instead of the WR's and playmakers you were wanting at the time.

PatMahomesIsGod 02-27-2025 02:16 PM

Ugh.

Bitch ass move (unless tag and trade), Bart.

Tribal Warfare 02-27-2025 02:16 PM

Suamataia is battling for an OT spot

OnTheWarpath15 02-27-2025 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17981750)
Tagging seemed like the option that wasn’t on the table.

Anyone who brought it up here got shut down pretty quick.

I think you’re right. They either 1) have a trade partner or 2) have a deal and didn’t want him to get cold feet.

According to Pete Sweeney, the tag was never an option until the salary cap increase was finalized.

I think they are close to a deal and this just buys them time to get it done.

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2025 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17981782)
So you're saying they shoulda been taking G"s early in the past few rounds recently....instead of the WR's and playmakers you were wanting at the time.

I mean, they have been taking OL projects early. They just apparently ****ed the evaluations up so badly that they won't even pivot to them backfilling on the interior and prefer paying Trey Smith 23 million.


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