Let’s talk Free Agency
 

A little premature to put this on the front page before March. Who all do you guys like for us? What players do you think should go after?

Any value guys you prefer?

I think a guy like Payton Turner would be a Spaggs DE(6’6” 275). And I don’t think he would cost much. Maybe 5 or 6 million a year. And I think there is still some potential there. He’s only 25.

https://youtu.be/D82ykrYqVaQ?si=DG2aHN7_yg777WwR


I would also really like us to sign Bobby Brown, the DT from the Rams. Only 24 years old. But at 6’4” 320 he is a true run stuffer that has some juice in the pass rush.

https://youtu.be/VyVSsUeE570?si=DAueJ6EPLMxwFikw

Would rather take either of them vs watch Veach waste yet another pick on the DL. Wonder how losing Borgonzi is gonna affect our scouting. He was supposedly Veach’s right hand man, and “secret weapon”.

I really like Bobby Brown but Turner is a whole other level of NO.

Thornhill just got released. Anyone interested? I didn't watch that many Cleveland games but he looked decent when we played them. Not sure hell ever get back to his rookie athleticism. And not sure he can be a Reid replacement mentally.

NFL Trade rumors top 100.
1.Tee Higgins
2.Sam Darnold
3.Trey smith
4.Chris Godwin
5. Jevon Holland S
6. DJ Reed Cb
7.Zach Baun LB
8.Hollywood Brown WR
9.Alaric Jackson T
10.Ronnie Stanley LT
11.Josh Sweat Edge
12.paulson Adeebo CB
13. Drew Dalmann C
14. Tevin Jenkins G
15. Chase Young Edge
16. Russel Wilson
17. Aaron Rodgers
18. Amari Cooper WR
19. Stefon Diggs WR
20.Hasaan Redick. Edge.
21.Kahlil Mack Edge
22. DeMarcus Lawrence Edge
23.Justin Fields QB
24.Milton Williams DL
25.Osa Odighizuwa DL
26.Byron Murphy CB
27.Asante Samuel CB
28.poona Ford DL
29.Cam Robinson OT
30.Kristian Fulton CB
31.Carlton Davis cb
32. Mike Hughes CB
33.Michael Jackson CB
34.Charvarious Ward (criminally low imo)
35. Najee Harris rb
36.Rasul Douglas cb
37.Aaron Jones rB
38. Bobby Wagner lb
39. DeAndre Hopkins wr
40. Keenan Allen wr
41.Calais Cambell DL
42Eric Kendricks LB
43. Kevin Zeitler G
44. Malcom Koonce Edge
45.Azeez Ojulari Edge
46. Barton Browning Edge
47. Julian Blackmon S
48. Camryn Bynum S
49.Justin Reid S
50. Jeremy Chinn S
51. Taloana S
52. mekhi Bekton OT/G
53. James Daniels G
54. Will Fries G
55. Jk Dobbins RB
56. Javonte Williams RB
57. Rico Dowdle RB
58. Jamien Sherwood Lb
59. Ernest Jones LB
60. Dre Greenlaw LB
61. Tyrell Dodson LB
62. Robert Spillaine LB
63. Levi Onwuzurike dl
64. Chauncey Gholston Dl
65. Brandon Stephens CB
66. Jameis Winston QB
67. MMike Hilton CB
68 Johnathan Jones CB



Ill update as I get time with the rest.

I don't think we'll be shopping in the first wave at all. It'll be bargain shopping. The only guy I can see just targeting would be Jackson. Other than that, it'll be trying to keep our guys and looking to the draft.

I think if they strike early it'll be at Chase Young.

He opens up a lot of options long-term. Now it's also possible that he just doesn't have the motor we want and won't look at him at all.

But if you get Young, you aren't in quite as dire a situation with Karlaftis and can even take him to the 5th year option year if you need to. It's not ideal, but it opens up alternatives. That has some value in its own right.

But I do think we'll be shopping for a DE.

I could see CB being something of a '2nd wave' target for us and perhaps WR.

Here's my long list but knowing we won't sign many...

QB: Cooper Rush (DAL), Jameis Winston (CLE), Carson Wentz (KC)
RB: Elijah Mitchell (SF), Ty Johnson (BUF), Jalen Warren (PIT, RFA), Javonte Williams (DEN), Samaje Perine (KC), Kareem Hunt (KC)
TE: Austin Hooper (NE), Tyler Conklin (NYJ), Mike Gesicki (CIN)
WR: Marquise Brown (KC), Elijah Moore (CLE), Josh Palmer (LAC), Dyami Brown (WAS), Rondale Moore (ATL), Darius Slayton (NYG)
LT: Alaric Jackson (LAR), Jaylon Moore (SF), D.J. Humphries (KC)
RG: Robert Hainsey (TB), Will Hernandez (ARI)
DT: Tershawn Wharton (KC), Roy Lopez (ARI), Benito Jones (MIA), Javon Kinlaw (NYJ), Greg Gaines (TB), B.J. Hill (CIN), Bobby Brown III (LAR), Tedarrell Slaton (GB)
DE: Josh Sweat (PHI), Charles Omenihu (KC), Chase Young (NO), Chauncey Golston (DAL), Dayo Odeyingbo (IND), Joseph Ossai (CIN), Patrick Jones II (MIN)
LB: Jamien Sherwood (NYJ), Nick Bolton (KC), Devin Bush (CLE), Tyrel Dodson (MIA), Dre Greenlaw (SF)
CB: Michael Jackson Sr (CAR), Byron Murphy (MIN), Paulson Adebo (NO), Asante Samuel Jr (LAC)
SS: Richie Grant (ATL), Ashtyn Davis (NYJ)
ST: James Winchester (KC), Matt Araiza (KC)

Guys I probably most want...

1. Alaric Jackson, LT - Easily the best option on the open market and opens up the draft.
2. Josh Sweat, DE - I really like Sweat's ability to bring the heat and he's a solid run defender too. He's far more consistent as a player than Chase Young. Some might argue he's no better than Karlaftis and while that may be true, having two Karlaftis' is better than one.
3. Jamien Sherwood, LB - I so desperately want more athleticism at the second level but this won't happen if the Chiefs stick with Bolton.
4. Marquise Brown, WR - I think there was a real connection with Mahomes and we didn't get to see it evolve. He fits a true need as well.
5. Tershawn Wharton, DT - Wharton has really blossomed into a good player that I think we need to retain. He's still young enough to give you 5 quality seasons.
6. Elijah Mitchell, RB - I know he hasn't been the epitome of health but he's electric and can be a good 3rd down back.
7. Robert Hainsey, IOL - Hainsey can play either guard spot or center, is cerebral and athletic. He'll probably have a mid-tier price but can play quality ball.

Assuming we miss out on Ty Jonson, I’d rather have Kenneth Gainwell than Perine, Hunt or Williams. Kid still really young and has juice.

Eagles don’t really utilize their RB’s in the passing game that much surprisingly. Didn’t with Gainwell and didn’t with Barkley this year.

Think he’d do really well in that role here.

IF they're out on Omenihu, I could agree with that.

I'd rather keep Hunt and draft Treveyon Henderson.

Thunder and lightning, baby.

If Pittsburgh signs Warren to an RFA Original Round tender, I'd be extremely tempted to give him an offer. He was an UDFA so we'd owe them no draft picks if we got him. They have right of first refusal though and can match the contract. He's the type of RB Andy Reid loves, honestly. Quality receiving back, good production in the run game, and he can pass block pretty well for his size.

I like all of Crow's suggestions above minus Turk. I'd prefer to prioritise either Poona Ford or Teair Tart. Also seen Levi Onwuzurike suggested at a similar salary, and frankly I'd much rather him too if so.

If Jackson and Stanley are out at LT, and assuming DJ may be washed, I would be pretty interested in Jaylon Moore. Limited sample but seems to have improved each year. Solid in pass pro. Fairly young with room to improve further. Assuming the price is significantly lower, I could live with it.

I would get the schadenfreude giggles if we signed Javonte Williams. I kinda hope we don't because he's a bit of a broke dick iirc, but I'd still chuckle at Donk fan if we did.

Give me Alaric Jackson, a pass catcher (Hollywood), and a DB before the draft.

That’s with the assumption that Bolton is back and Reid is gone.

Then focus on the rest where the draft is strong: DL and RB. Also, obviously draft another DB. Need to practically every year.

This is where I'm at, basically.

"bit of"?

That guy is ****ing toast.

I wouldn't waste a roster spot at the league minimum on him. The schadenfreude would come from Broncos fans anytime we give that corpse the ball.

He looks like he's lost it to me. But what if he was the reverse Jamaal Charles? Gets here and regains that youthful bounce? Not many things would be funnier.

This is the year to get the smaller value deals like Tranquill, 2022 Juju and Reid.

Ty Johnson RB
Robert Spillane LB
Willie Gay LB
Joe Tyron DE
Julian Blackmon S
Dayo Odeyingbo DE
Kenneth Gainwell RB
Elijah Moore WR
Jeremy Chinn S
Dyami Brown WR
Charvarius Ward CB

1 year deals:
BJ Hill DT
Kendall Fuller CB

I'd be ok with a Willie Gay homecoming.

- Bolton
- Tranquill
- Chenal
- Gay
- Cam Jones/Jack Cochrane

That'll work

Not interested

It appears that both DRob and Dynami Brown will hit FA. With JWat leaving, perfect opportunity to upgrade to an actually productive WR3/4.

I'd maybe lean Dynami in that scenario. And is it a sure thing that Watson is gone? I know the staff loves him.

Being greedy and hopeful at WR next year looks like this for me.....

- Rashee Rice
- Xavier Worthy
- Hollywood Brown
- Luther Burden III
- Dynami Brown
- Nikko Remigio

But, if we re-sign Hollywood, Dynami won't be here, but maybe JWat might be

Not 100% certain about JWat, but I just read an article this morning that said Veach has already informed JWat's agent that they probably won't make an offer for him to return.

Outside of Brown, Hopkins, Watson, and Smith-Schuster I have no interest in the available WR FAs…Unless by some miracle we can make room for Devante Adams lol

I'm torn on JJSS. He still has playmaking ability, but his knee is just toast. How many games did he miss in '24?

It wouldn't be the worst thing if he came back, and I wouldn't HATE it, but I feel we can really upgrade the WR room this offseason without drastic pain.

I wouldn't hate Dyami Brown at all, or seeing some churn at the bottom end. But I suspect he won't be available for the right price.

One guy I'd really like us to prioritise, but I doubt we would, is Isaiah Rodgers at CB. He's been nothing but reliably above average to good, across multiple seasons, and he may not cost too much. But he's short and light. I don't see Spags going for him, which is a shame because despite his size he's been a great OCB, and a cheap way to also get the most out of McDuffie.

There are guys. It depends on money and what we choose to bring back.

Varying degrees of talent here, but I'd look at Chris Godwin, Elijah Moore, Darius Slayton, Rondale Moore, Josh Palmer, Dyami Brown, and KJ Osborne.

I don't know if I'd be interested in any others.

I’d like to see slayton he’s always intrigued me.

You're not going to attract any youngish, talented receivers at this point.

With Rice, Worthy, Brown and still Kelce there aren't a lot of targets.

You MIGHT get a ring chaser at the end of their career.

Ok. Let’s have a conversation about Dan Moore.

I’ve not paid much attention to him - I know he was better in 24 than 23, when he was a disaster - but I don’t know much else about him.

So, is this a guy we think could realistically convert to KC’s style of pass sets? Crow, DJ?

I ask because it was shared with me today that their plan is to sign Moore.

I think he is solid. Not a top ten type guy but he is solid and better than what we played with last year. Could be a solid stop gap to a draft pick. If we drafted Conerly and let him sit and develop for a year or two then I would be ok with Moore.

Maybe he surprised some as he is only 26 and could develop some still?

The 24 version seems to be that. The 23 version was a disaster. Maybe some of that was bad OC/QB play. I don’t know.

But awfully uncertain.

All things equal, I’d pay Robinson more and be OK with it and would rather have Jaylon Moore if he’s a little less costly.

PFF says Dan Moore gave up 12 sacks in 2024. Is that accurate? Or PFF typical bullshit?

Robinson and Jaylon Moore are my targets. They’re the two LTs available with the most easily explained reasons for being available.

I’m not sure if it is true or not. But I would definitely take into consideration the QB and offensive system. Wilson holds the ball too long too often. And Pittsburgh system is to run the ball then throw deep.

Ok, I would be interested in Chris Godwin lol

He gives up way more pressure than I like, but he's better than Cam Robinson, IMO. He gives up fewer pressures and commits fewer penalties on a percentage basis than Cam. He has better lateral agility than Cam. He can get into space and make second-level blocks and pull out to make blocks on the perimeter. He's obviously seen a lot more action than Jaylon Moore.

The nice thing about Dan Moore is that he's the youngest player of the lot between him, Jaylon, and Cam. He also has the best agility. I would not be pissed at all if he was the choice so long as the money isn't terrible.

One thing we gotta keep in mind with Dan Moore is that he had 4 games a year against two of the absolute best pass rushers in the NFL in Myles Garrett and Trey Hendrickson. He struggled, sometimes mightily, with those guys but I think that helps him going forward.

So long as the choice is not Cam ****ing Robinson, I'm good with it.

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Hopefully they only look and see how much he sucks ass.

shared?

Like from who?

A friend whose friend works as a player rep.

So far so good I think.

Veach chipping away at the list. Keep em coming man

He apparently stopped trying for himself and just started following you around on here.

Damn, Crow. You're killing it this off-season.

Mighty impressive Crow! Where do you reckon they'll prioritise next, and who? Got to think a DE is a priority. I'd hope a DT is as well but maybe they leave it to the draft. Safety?

I agree with you on DL and S. I think it'll be pretty quiet at least until Wednesday though. They need to get under the cap and if they don't get something done with Trey Smith then we won't see anything big.

Crow you're awesome!

I think we need another WR. I know he's on the decline but I don't care. When the Rams release Cooper Kupp, I want him. He does what our other receivers don't do: catches everything, knows where to go, knows how to get into the end zone.

I’d like to see it, but I think there are plenty of teams who would also be interested. Unless he wants to come in to chase a ring, I think others would outbid us for him.

Yeah I think you're right. On a side note, just wanted to say I appreciate the work you put into the draft forum. As someone who doesn't know half the players, it's incredibly helpful.

For me, the glaring needs are as follows:

DE - Our room, as it stands, is pretty bad imo, and probably our weakest position. Unfortunately, FA looks very thin now, so we may be having to risk solely building through the draft. I'd consider bringing Omenihu back, up to an absolute max of $8m and probably a single "prove it" year. The issue I have is, I don't think he will prove it. I'm kinda done with the incessant focus on "flexibility" and I'm fairly convinced it results in lots of players who do nothing particularly well. I don't think Omenihu frees up others...but, meh, he's OK, he knows the system etc. After that, who's left? Maybe Dante Fowler, who might be cheap. Z'Adarius Smith will surely cost too much. Think we're rolling the dice in the draft and hoping.

DT - The next worst room, and again it's slim pickings in FA now. I still have some vague hope that Lovett can turn into a functional NT, but it seems unwise to assume. There's Onwuzurike, who'd be great, but I'd presume costs too much. Calais Campbell is ancient but would still be an upgrade, but again, probably still a little too much. Outside of that I'd possibly go for someone like Ta'Quon Graham, who should be cheap. I'm assuming it's just dealt with through the draft, lots of options.

RB - Would expect this to be dealt with through the draft too, but I'd happily have Hunt back on a min. deal for short-yardage and 3rd downs.

Safety - We know Hicks will be used more, and possibly Connor assuming McDuffie is freed up to return to the slot more. But there's a lack of vet savvy and coverage ability. I don't think there's anyone left in FA. I wouldn't hate Blackmon, but I don't think we can prioritise paying him. Thornhill back on a min. deal? Maybe. Guess it'll be through the draft again.

Outside of that I can't see any move to cover other positions aside from a backup QB, maybe a bottom of the roster WR? We certainly need a WR4

I'd really like to see a DT brought in soon, the pickings are getting really slim out there. Benito Jones or Naquan Jones would probably be my targets as bang-for-your-buck NTs.

Unfortunately, Omenihu is easily the best DE remaining on the market with any youth to him. The only other DE that I'd say is actually better is Za'Darius Smith but who knows how much he wants. Judon and Preston Smith looked washed last year. Emmanuel Ogbah might be an aged option as well.

Could Raekwon Davis be an option as a stout run defender at DT? Her is only 27 still