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dirk digler 02-14-2025 11:39 AM

unnamed Chiefs coach: Going to SB's gets old
 
WUT

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nf...mahomes-chiefs

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s no doubt the Chiefs were exhausted going into Super Bowl LIX. <br><br>Playing around 20 games for the last three years -- and finishing with one of the biggest circuses in sport -- it seemed to lead to some burnout.<a href="https://t.co/E337S98JMB">https://t.co/E337S98JMB</a> <a href="https://t.co/XqwUX5Fd9i">pic.twitter.com/XqwUX5Fd9i</a></p>&mdash; Henry McKenna (@henrycmckenna) <a href="https://twitter.com/henrycmckenna/status/1890406330717880573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 11:41 AM

Probably Joel Gheymaier

pugsnotdrugs19 02-14-2025 11:43 AM

Sounds like some serious changes need to be made then.

DJay23 02-14-2025 11:43 AM

So they had enough to make the Super Bowl, but too tired to win it?

louie aguiar 02-14-2025 11:45 AM

We should make big changes to the entire offensive coaching staff. Andy is so loyal though- I don’t see it happening.

RunKC 02-14-2025 11:48 AM

The offensive decline the last 2 years makes perfect sense now. Holy shit.

Andy needs to fire these guys and get new blood in here. Goddamn

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 11:48 AM

Having stability/no change is generally a good thing to have for a coaching staff… but the downsides are also becoming evident.

KC_Connection 02-14-2025 11:49 AM

Fire him.

Can't afford to surround somebody as driven as Mahomes with personnel and coaches like this in his prime.

MahomesMagic 02-14-2025 11:52 AM

The offensive coaching has been poor for 2 years now.

comochiefsfan 02-14-2025 11:53 AM

****ing ridiculous.

These coaches sound more spoiled than the ****ing fans.

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 11:53 AM

This whole “Super Bowl fatigue” makes no sense when you consider that the Chiefs had like 24 days off between their last meaningful regular season game and the start of the playoffs… and then another bye week before the Super Bowl.

I can understand some residual effects of a third straight Super Bowl run… but all that time off during the past month wasn’t enough to have the team better prepared to play on Sunday?

Seems like a cop out.

dirk digler 02-14-2025 11:53 AM

It doesn't say if the coach is on the offense or defense.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2025 11:55 AM

His loyalty to dead weight on staff may be Reid's single biggest flaw as a head coach.

OKchiefs 02-14-2025 11:55 AM

It should say a lot that we used to have a constant stream of coaches like Pederson, Nagy, Kafka, and Daboll being poached from our coaching staff and that all of a sudden isn’t happening. There are few if any voices on the coaching staff who are seen as viable coaching options elsewhere in the NFL.

ThrobProng 02-14-2025 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17968798)
So they had enough to make the Super Bowl, but too tired to win it?

Maybe this offseason the team could travel to Nepal, ascend Mount Everest, and stop 10 feet from the summit because they're tired. That'd be cool.

Rainbarrel 02-14-2025 11:57 AM

History has changed

comochiefsfan 02-14-2025 11:59 AM

Reading quotes like this show the clear line between guys who live for this (like Andy) and those who just see it as a job.

The ones who see it as a job want the season to be over so they can go on vacation almost as much as they want to win.

When the offseason rolls around people like Andy don’t know what to do with themselves.

Time for a shakeup and to get some coaches with hunger in here.

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 11:59 AM

Any coach that is too fatigued to coach in extended playoff runs/Super Bowl appearances should go coach for the Raiders.

Your season ends by early January and you have more time to rest.

Good riddance.

Titty Meat 02-14-2025 12:02 PM

Kelce alluded to how things were tough playing deep in the post season on his podcast too

PAChiefsGuy 02-14-2025 12:02 PM

He sounds like a spoiled bitch. I wish he would stfu and think about what some organizations are going through.

God ppl will find anything to whine about I swear. This team is too soft and the Eagles saw that and took advantage. There is a wear and tear that comes w this for sure but Chiefs need to embrace it and stop w the complaining. It's a great problem to have!

Titty Meat 02-14-2025 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17968798)
So they had enough to make the Super Bowl, but too tired to win it?

Did the offense look interested at all?

KCUnited 02-14-2025 12:03 PM

Quote:

Henry McKenna spent seven years covering the Patriots for USA TODAY Sports Media Group and Boston Globe Media
Until this conversation gets corroborated, its just more noise

dirk digler 02-14-2025 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968833)
Any coach that is too fatigued to coach in extended playoff runs/Super Bowl appearances should go coach for the Raiders.

Your season ends by early January and you have more time to rest.

Good riddance.

Agreed. Who gets tired of winning? You are also only talking about an extra month jfc.

Would love to know who this coach is.

KC_Connection 02-14-2025 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17968838)
Kelce alluded to how things were tough playing deep in the post season on his podcast too

Despite how much he's done with this organization, if his heart isn't in playing football anymore, we don't want him around either sadly.

We must push forward from this and we can't do it without people who aren't all-in to win another SB.

smithandrew051 02-14-2025 12:06 PM

There are plenty of hungry coaches out there who would take his place.

Sounds like a change is needed.

dirk digler 02-14-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17968838)
Kelce alluded to how things were tough playing deep in the post season on his podcast too

For players it is tough, not just for NFL players but this happens in other pro sports as well. All those extra games take a toll physically on your body. Shouldn't be tough for coaches though.

Brooklyn 02-14-2025 12:06 PM

its not just the pressure and fatigue while you are in the moment, but imagine the mental toll of envisioning yourself winning it. No one was going to say, hey history of a threepeat, congrats you're done!

The conversation would instantly go to a 4-peat, much like it did quite literally on the podium in Vegas. Its an unending weight that yeah, maybe made them think about we are gonna have to do this all over again and be in this exact same spot a year from now.

its not just and extra month. It literally fast forwards all the way to next year as that's all anyone would ever be talking about - the unbeatable Chiefs who will break their own history.

Titty Meat 02-14-2025 12:07 PM

I agree any coach or player that was tired of going to super bowls should **** off

wazu 02-14-2025 12:08 PM

Sounds like something Matt Nagy would say.

MahomesMagic 02-14-2025 12:08 PM

I remember watching the Franchise episode where we were playing Cincinnati in the AFC Championship the year Mahomes had the ankle.


Dave Merritt and Brendan Daly were exhorting the players to "Send Us, Send Us (to the SB) and to "Make a Play" with a few minutes left in the game.


It gave me chills how intense they were.


Need that on the offensive staff moving forward.

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 17968850)
its not just the pressure and fatigue while you are in the moment, but imagine the mental toll of envisioning yourself winning it. No one was going to say, hey history of a threepeat, congrats you're done!

The conversation would instantly go to a 4-peat, much like it did quite literally on the podium in Vegas. Its an unending weight that yeah, maybe made them think about we are gonna have to do this all over again and be in this exact same spot a year from now.

Embracing that challenge is a winner’s mentality.

Clearly some of the coaches on Andy’s staff are lacking that mindset.

ThrobProng 02-14-2025 12:12 PM

There's a very real chance that the Chicago Bulls would've pulled off an 8-peat, like the SNL sketch, had Jordan not taken two years off. I don't accept the fatigue excuse.

The loss is on the front office and coaching.

KC_Connection 02-14-2025 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 17968850)
its not just the pressure and fatigue while you are in the moment, but imagine the mental toll of envisioning yourself winning it. No one was going to say, hey history of a threepeat, congrats you're done!

The conversation would instantly go to a 4-peat, much like it did quite literally on the podium in Vegas. Its an unending weight that yeah, maybe made them think about we are gonna have to do this all over again and be in this exact same spot a year from now.

I understand why a competitor like Mahomes jumped immediately to thinking about that (the next goal in a long line of goals he has for himself in this sport), but I almost thought doing so in the moment took away just how special it was what that team did last year.

The back-to-back was an incredible generational accomplishment in the modern NFL, it hadn't been done in 20 years for a reason. Let it breathe a bit.

Sassy Squatch 02-14-2025 12:15 PM

They are tough. Very very tough. But the players are the ones that need the support the most, and having a coach that thinks like this useless schmuck would potentially be debilitating mentally.

Brooklyn 02-14-2025 12:23 PM

Look, all I am saying is, the evidence was on the field. I don't think you can pin it squarely on any coach or vibe in the lockerroom. Credit to the Eagles for having an awesome team, but the Chiefs appear to have suffocated under the weight of all of this - past, present, and future history combined.

They actually slayed a dragon by getting farther than anyone in history, and much like the aftermath of :13 seconds game, they probably shot their load in doing so. I respect the hell out of these guys and love this team, but they are all humans end of the day. If any player or coach was feeling that way, I am not gonna begrduge them.

stevegroganfan 02-14-2025 12:24 PM

It is very rarely mentioned but having to integrate so many new players on offense is difficult even if some new players do tend to add motivation like win it for a once truly great but now declining player like Hopkins or whoever.

Look at all of the brand new to Mahomes receivers Mahomes had to work with this year.

Chiefs fans and pundits nationally underrate the talent Mahomes was working with on offense compared to most QB's. Chiefs still had a top 10 line when used right.

But Worthy, Hopkins and Brown were all brand new to the Chiefs offense and most QB's don't have to deal with that in a given season. In Mahomes first year as a starter at least he must have had a full year throwing the ball to Kelce/Hill in practice. Even JJSS was just in his 2nd year with the team...obviously he doesn't have much in the tank but familiarity with the receivers had to at least be a problem worth mentioning.

And while Kelce's decline as a receiver has been exaggerated, Mahomes has to adjust a bit to Kelce's decline which is probably hard for any QB to do. I remember Brady trying to throw to a Gronk who couldn't move because of a bum ankle in the 2nd Super Bowl...some of that is because the Patriots had poor depth at the skill position players given his injury but it is probably out of comfort as well...knowing he is on the same page as the receiver/TE.

What all this means if the Chiefs knew they could trade Worthy and that he would be a lower tier number 1 receiver for most of his career, it may not make sense to trade him for slightly above average left tackle. There would be real risk of blowing a season in doing so if Rice can't come back healthy. Expecting Mahomes to learn even more new receivers would be risky.

Continuity is important even if some new players/coaches to add/maintain motivation may also be important.

philfree 02-14-2025 12:27 PM

The mental toll of wanting the 3-peat so bad appears to have had an effect on Mahomes. That pressure along with the grind could easily have boiled over to the rest of the team and organization. With the O line issues imagine the pressure on Thuney protecting Mahomes backside. We came out awfully tight in the big game, the pressure was immense.

DrunkBassGuitar 02-14-2025 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17968838)
Kelce alluded to how things were tough playing deep in the post season on his podcast too

Kelce can say it because he's running and blocking and getting hit and the difficulty just ramps up.

An assistant coach? nah

PAChiefsGuy 02-14-2025 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17968847)
There are plenty of hungry coaches out there who would take his place.

Sounds like a change is needed.

Exactly

We don't need this type of attitude on the team especially w Mahomes here. Whoever this is - he needs to go. This isn't the team for him.

TinyEvel 02-14-2025 12:48 PM

I mean, it's hard being a Chiefs fan.

January used to be a month of getting things done but the past seven years that extra month of following my team and watching the games, the recaps, the blogs, it's like an extra month taken from your life every year.

Not to mention shopping for championship merchandise, got to make all those decisions, and whether to get the same stuff (bar glasses, hats, banners) for multiple years, or get new different stuff every year. It's a lot of work, usually half-way into February.

Then you have to find room in your home to display all this stuff. I mean, if we had three-peated I would've had to convert my kid's room into a display room. Luckily little Jamaal gets his bedroom for one more year.

Red Dawg 02-14-2025 12:58 PM

Coaches coach and teach, motivate through positive and negative reinforcement. Players are responsible for their actions and attitude. Motivation is a self-inflicted mind set.

PatMahomesIsGod 02-14-2025 12:59 PM

Sounds like coaches don’t make extra for the playoffs.

And please be Andy Heck and/or Nagy…..

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-14-2025 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968821)
This whole “Super Bowl fatigue” makes no sense when you consider that the Chiefs had like 24 days off between their last meaningful regular season game and the start of the playoffs… and then another bye week before the Super Bowl.

I can understand some residual effects of a third straight Super Bowl run… but all that time off during the past month wasn’t enough to have the team better prepared to play on Sunday?

Seems like a cop out.

It's not really time off when you're preparing for an upcoming game. sounds like he just wants the big summer off thingy

Dunerdr 02-14-2025 01:09 PM

Feels like fake news for a story to me tbh.

comochiefsfan 02-14-2025 01:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We need real dawgs on this staff again he was never scared to call out Pat <a href="https://t.co/TE6mrhm0XJ">pic.twitter.com/TE6mrhm0XJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/LZvYOpa57O">https://t.co/LZvYOpa57O</a></p>&mdash; YBG ky (@4Kyce) <a href="https://twitter.com/4Kyce/status/1890186696085438776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what we’re missing from Bieniemy. He knew how to push Pat’s competitive buttons and get him fired up.

Nagy and his staff are too concerned about being his buddy. Who on the staff is challenging him in the moment and raising his level of intensity?

Too many softies on the offensive staff right now.

wazu 02-14-2025 01:14 PM

Yikes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjaaftqX...jpg&name=large

Demonpenz 02-14-2025 01:20 PM

Pretty obvious take

GordonGekko 02-14-2025 01:20 PM

Wow news @ 10, going to work everyday can get tiring, lol, Andy needs to clean the house a bit these guys are paid way way too much money have attitudes like this, and it certainly showed on the field last season

chiefzilla1501 02-14-2025 01:23 PM

The coach is absolutely right. I think the win against the bills became our Super Bowl and we never got the engines firing again after. But Travis made it clear in his podcast that it’s a hell of a grind to do this in the playoffs let alone all the way to the Super Bowl.

But he shouldn’t say that shit out loud. On or off the record

crayzkirk 02-14-2025 01:31 PM

Sounds like the caption should read:

unamed EX-Chiefs coach...

Perhaps the best gameplan would be to keep Patrick upright and unbruised and let him do what he does best. Win football games.

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 01:32 PM

Andy/Veach’s end of season wrap up press conference will be interesting.

irafreak 02-14-2025 01:43 PM

A lot of people making a fuss out of guys being human. You know the players get tired. Why can't the coaches. The mental aspect is exhausting and having to put in your best week after week gets ramped up in single elimination.

This should surprise no one. Mahomes has looked burned out for a while now. He just usually elevates at the right times because of that competitive nature. Burnout happens in all things.

You want to argue that we need some turnover for fresh, hungry talent.. fine. But it sounds like most of you are still in the denial phase. We lost. We had a bad game and lost. It happens.

siberian khatru 02-14-2025 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968989)
Andy/Veach’s end of season wrap up press conference will be interesting.

They're not having one this year. Next time they will talk to the media will be the combine.

KCUnited 02-14-2025 01:59 PM

I bet it was the blocking coach

FloridaMan88 02-14-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17969021)
They're not having one this year. Next time they will talk to the media will be the combine.

Not too far away for that at least.

Rainbarrel 02-14-2025 02:37 PM

The jugs machine was burdened down too

ThyKingdomCome15 02-14-2025 02:42 PM

I'm exhausted just reading that.

ThrobProng 02-14-2025 02:47 PM

There's no way a pro athlete is affected by a postseason from 2 years ago. The shit isn't cumulative...people heal.

Hammock Parties 02-14-2025 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17969129)
There's no way a pro athlete is affected by a postseason from 2 years ago. The shit isn't cumulative...people heal.

Multiple players from the Steelers, 49ers and Patriots dynasties have said the same thing.

ThrobProng 02-14-2025 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17969131)
Multiple players from the Steelers, 49ers and Patriots dynasties have said the same thing.

Of course by the time any team gets to a SB they're exhausted...but how long does that last once the game is over? Are they tired for the next 6 months?

MarkDavis'Haircut 02-14-2025 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968833)
Any coach that is too fatigued to coach in extended playoff runs/Super Bowl appearances should go coach for the Raiders.

Your season ends by early January and you have more time to rest.

Good riddance.

It is great!

Zero stress. I am going to live to be 150! LMAO

KCUnited 02-14-2025 03:06 PM

I'm sure there's some effects of an elongated season, especially on older vets, but its not like the Eagles have been sitting at home the last 3 post seasons

KCUnited 02-14-2025 03:08 PM

Tired of all this pussy! /just lays there

PAChiefsGuy 02-14-2025 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17969006)
A lot of people making a fuss out of guys being human. You know the players get tired. Why can't the coaches. The mental aspect is exhausting and having to put in your best week after week gets ramped up in single elimination.

This should surprise no one. Mahomes has looked burned out for a while now. He just usually elevates at the right times because of that competitive nature. Burnout happens in all things.

You want to argue that we need some turnover for fresh, hungry talent.. fine. But it sounds like most of you are still in the denial phase. We lost. We had a bad game and lost. It happens.

He should be thrilled to be able to coach the game he gets to coach. Plenty of coaches would kill for the opportunity he has.

If he doesn't like it he can go coach some where else.

In58men 02-14-2025 03:32 PM

Click bait ROFL

PHOG 02-14-2025 08:29 PM

I would be tired, how about you? But......I or you are not PROFESSIONAL football players getting MILIONS OF DOLLARS to PERFORM. If you can't do it anymore, then DON'T!! FINE!!!!

Edit: Sorey this is surcasm and noone knos it

lcarus 02-14-2025 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968821)
This whole “Super Bowl fatigue” makes no sense when you consider that the Chiefs had like 24 days off between their last meaningful regular season game and the start of the playoffs… and then another bye week before the Super Bowl.

I can understand some residual effects of a third straight Super Bowl run… but all that time off during the past month wasn’t enough to have the team better prepared to play on Sunday?

Seems like a cop out.

Maybe mental fatigue? Even though they had the time off, I'm sure they're working like mad men on something every day. I don't know. I'm just trying to make sense of it. You would expect them to look crisp as ever and they were....the opposite of that.

DJay23 02-14-2025 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17968841)
Did the offense look interested at all?

Wait, do you think they were disinterested in pushing through fatigue to win the Super Bowl?

I think what may have looked like disinterest was shock at how thoroughly they were being outcoached and outexecuted.

tk13 02-14-2025 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17969542)
Maybe mental fatigue? Even though they had the time off, I'm sure they're working like mad men on something every day. I don't know. I'm just trying to make sense of it. You would expect them to look crisp as ever and they were....the opposite of that.

This isn't really an excuse either but this team also played an insane amount of close games, all the way to another all out battle with the Bills. It should have prepared them for anything but I wonder if that also wore them down a little bit. Almost every week was a grind.

YontsRBake 02-14-2025 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968833)
Any coach that is too fatigued to coach in extended playoff runs/Super Bowl appearances should go coach for the Raiders.

Your season ends by early January and you have more time to rest.

Good riddance.

Their season is over way before January, let’s be real

suzzer99 02-14-2025 10:40 PM

It would be nice to see the whole context of this quote. Maybe it was more about the radio row and media circus experience vs. the idea of going to the Super Bowl at all.

Enid Borden 02-15-2025 04:39 PM

The exhaustion factor I can totally see but boring? Did he make that up to get attention?

ThaVirus 02-15-2025 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17969552)
This isn't really an excuse either but this team also played an insane amount of close games, all the way to another all out battle with the Bills. It should have prepared them for anything but I wonder if that also wore them down a little bit. Almost every week was a grind.

Definitely could have had an effect, but that’s also their own doing.

No reason we should have been going down to the wire with teams like the Panthers and Raiders.

scho63 02-15-2025 04:56 PM

Coach Swift making excuses?

Deberg_1990 02-15-2025 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17969552)
This isn't really an excuse either but this team also played an insane amount of close games, all the way to another all out battle with the Bills. It should have prepared them for anything but I wonder if that also wore them down a little bit. Almost every week was a grind.

I’m sure there is definitely mental fatigue component to all this.

Also battling a sort of ‘been there done this’ attitude for a lot these guys. Makes you less hungry than the Eagles certainly.

Enid Borden 02-15-2025 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17969178)
Click bait ROFL

I tend to think so. Wouldn't be surprised if this was completely fake.


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