ESPN: Mahomes Nightmare SB, wanted 3-Peat bad
 

I didn't see this posted but it is a long article you can read here but Pat wanted this badly.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ee-peat-denied

Unacceptable, gutless attitude.

Exactly. If true, the coaches FAILED BIG TIME, ESPECIALLY THAT TURD. :shake:

Sounds like he put too much emphasis on the 3-peat that he couldn’t perform his best under pressure. Also, the OLine sucks!

This coach needs to see the door prompt. That is serious red flags. If you coach scared, your team will play scared

I was gonna say, I can’t be the only one going, “What the ****…?” while reading that part.

Major impostor syndrome red flags with that dude.

The best players want to be challenged and coached hard… and here is the Chiefs QB Coach admitting that he coaches scared and is intimidated by coaching Mahomes.

Your move, Andy.

Disgusting.

Please stop poisoning our rock star.

Fire these coaches if they feel this way. What a loser attitude

Reading this makes me wonder if Pat put alot of undue pressure on himself which may have caused him to press harder and not play his natural way.

It happens

Honestly....it looked like it to me. Just the weight of the whole thing.

Yeah.

We kinda assumed Patrick could handle it. Simply because he's come through in every big moment before. This one may have been built up too big in his mind.

I can't believe a coach openly admitted he felt intimidated coaching Mahomes.

If anything, its a good thing. That dude has to go.

Not every big moment. He had the same demeanor in the second half of the AFCCG loss to the Bengals. He obviously wasn't disinterested, but he almost looked dazed and lethargic. That could just be how he looks when he's having his ass handed to him.

With that said, there's nobody I'd rather have at QB in a clutch situation.

This is a ridiculous reactionary take.

You think that QB coach wasn’t feeling the same in the Bills game? The SB last year? The AFCCG against the Ravens last year? The SB 2yrs ago against the Eagles?

JFC. The desperation to find someone to blame is pure absurdity.

If only the OL didn't shit themselves it would've a drastically different story

I dont really care when it happened, regardless of the results.

Why would a coach be afraid to coach a player? Because the player is a superstar? Because they're afraid the player might not like what you have to say and barks back? ****. That. You're the coach, they're the player. Your job is to be push players to be greater. You never do that by backing down or being intimidated by the player.

Also have you not seen me in other threads. I have given Mahomes PLENTY of blame pie. I'm not trying to deflect the blame away.

It's not understanding the bigger picture. If we had won this game, you wouldn't have given this a second thought. Instead you're hyperventilating about anything and everything that caused your difficult reaction to the loss. (I definitely saw that thread.)

He's just making the point that they understand how amazing this player is and how they don't want to waste his talent. If they had just won this SB, you would've read this and thought, "WOW, this team operates at the high level it does because they realize what a unicorn Mahomes is and need to maximize anything and everything!"

Instead, because they lost 1 game in the playoffs in 3 seasons, you decide to use this as a reason to fire a coach. It's absurdity. As if he and all the other coaches didn't feel this same way ahead of each and every game this team has won over the past few seasons.

Come on, guys. This is ridiculous.

Regardless if this is a real issue or not, it seems clear that the offensive staff needs an infusion of innovation and creativity.

Remember just a few years ago when our play design was the envy of the league? Everything is so vanilla and predictable now. Where in the world did amazing schemer Andy Reid go?

We have a room full of conservative pussies right now in guys like this dude and Nagy who don’t seem to be adding anything useful to the offense.

Andy needs to either rediscover his magic or jettison some of these coaches and try to find a Ben Johnson type to come in here and maximize Mahomes’ ability.

Because right now it is being wasted.

I'm hyper ventilating?

Dude. I was hyper focused on the 3-peat and stopped caring for myself like I should have for a couple months. Like, not eating well, not sleeping well, not focused at work. Basic depression stuff, and it doesn't help that it's winter and we get ****ing zero sunlight.. I wasn't red in the face screaming at the TV. I was at a bar and watched in silence as we played a terrible game, then went home at halftime. If you think I'm being a prisoner of the moment, I'm sorry but you've got it all wrong.

Reading back on the thread, yeah he's probably not actually afraid of Mahomes, but is scared to lose it for him. Still kinda not what I want to hear, but far less of a red flag.

All I think you and others need to do is come back to this. Thanks.

If you read that paragraph before any other game, you wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Let’s not spend time trying to find a reason why we were outplayed. It happens to most teams multiple teams a season. For us, it happens rarely.

That’s all the perspective I’m talking about.

Hugs.

Andy is one of the greatest offensive play callers in NFL history and a tremendous head coach.

But I think age is catching up to him.

We no longer seem to have an edge on the offensive side. Most weeks the team we are playing knows our plays as well as we do.

There have been two great updates since Mahomes took over.

One was Mahomes first year where Andy got to merge the best of the West Coach Offense and the college spread with the verticals that had been missing with Alex at QB and terrified the NFL.

Then in 2021 teams basically said we won't let you do those, beat us 8-15 yards at a time.

In 2022 we came back and mastered that offense which was more modernized West Coast to attack shell.

Since that year we have been just kind of floundering on offense with no identity or things that we do that just work.

We just made our 3rd consecutive SB with a makeshift OL and last week against the Bills he put on a clinic?

What?

The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.

And Buffalo was a mediocre defense… before they were missing key players to injury.

And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

I’m sorry it takes you longer than most to see the big picture. I realize choosing Worthy over Mitchell still bothers you as you didn’t recognize a clear alpha WR when he was in our grasp until late in the season.

Maybe stop being a prisoner of the moment.

Dude thinks it's stressful going for a three-peat and having one of the GOAT QBs to try and do it?

What a joke. Get this guy off the ****ing team..

Who knows, maybe Andy Reid had devised his masterpiece for the second half of the SB this year because he thought it would be a close game.


But with Mahomes going off the reservation, the OL getting bum rushed, the WR's and Kelce dropping everything, and the playcalling asking for longer developing routes when the OL could not hold for 2 seconds, game ended before we could see it.

Not at all.


Nice attempt to change the subject again because, as usual, you have nothing interesting or insightful to say.


;)

The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.

We were 17-2 in games this past year in contests where we tried. Many of which we lacked a functional OL.

Please compare that to prior years and document the degradation of Reid’s abilities so we can discuss that point.

I've praised this run like 20 times since the game but Clown Boy just makes shit up.

Is it easy to run a west coast offense when your top two receivers aren’t in the system and your LT isn’t playing at an NFL level? How would other coaches have done?

Offense sucked. Mahomes was exceptional late in the games and on 3rd down this year which saved the pedestrian playcalling and enhanced our record.

Walk me through how that was a function of Reid and not the OL and the receiving options.

Florida education... where focusing on the past instead of what happened 4 days ago is called "prisoner of the moment".


We've done it, we've reached peak offseason reerunation.


Healing can begin.

Well you claimed in 2023 that Toney, or Justin Watson, or Sky Moore as a top WR option was fine.


So having a 1st round pick in Worthy, Juju, Hopkins, and fan favorite Justin Watson was more than enough weapons by that standard.

The revolving door at LT certainly hurt the offense but can't be only reason for the mediocre offense. We had everyone else on offensive line healthy and coaching can slide people to help even a shit LT.

Whose fault was it that the Chiefs went into a season with two LT’s who were incapable of playing at an NFL level?

Also do you think that fixing the LT position and getting a healthy Rice back are all that’s needed to return this offense to an elite level?

I claimed in 2023 that this team could win a SB with that WR corps. They did. You felt otherwise and were proven wrong.

They barely won a SB last year. They barely lost a SB this year. Let's not pretend that you're not just swinging wildly on a narrative based on a single game's outcome.

I think Veach and Reid were at fault.

I think this offense can be elite if they fix the LT and have Rice back. Absolutely.

Could be a coincidence that the 2 years Bleymaier and Nagy are here they represent the 2 worst years of Mahomes careers. Could also be that Reid's offense has gotten stale.

With that being said no doubt in my mind now that the pressure of a 3-peat got to him and the team. They played tight while the Eagles played like they had nothing to lose.

We just ****ing scored 32 points in the AFC Championship game with no left tackle. :LOL:

Some of you REALLY gotta pump the brakes. The biggest failures of the last two seasons are on lack of talent, not coaching.

You can flip that argument around and say we had good enough talent to make it to the SB 3 years in a row, winning 2 of them.

Not going to disagree that talent is an issue but so could coaching. We have watched this team struggle offensively for 2 years, especially this year where each game was a knife fight.

But going back to what I said, the last 2 years have been the worst of Pat's career some of it is talent but I really believe they have turned him into Alex Smith. I want the 2018 Mahomes back.

See i felt like mahomes Twitter apology was written in a way that seemed like relief...like he failed and could breathe again. It didn't sound as disappointed as I would have expected... just sorry but glad it's over.

Maybe next year pat can just let it rip again. He doesn't owe us any apology. He's given us all the best years of chiefs football we've ever seen.

Yeah, I don't get how he has such an awesome year in 22 and then looked...not bad but not like he usually does in 23.

The supporting casts were pretty similar.

The lights were too bright and Mahomes didn't have time to relax, literally. All the pressure was on us and it was a nightmare result. It's hard to see us ever getting that opportunity back.

Michael Jordan cracked mentally twice each time they three peated. Not that surprising Mahomes did as well. It's not human nature to put that much pressure on yourself

That's unfortunate, especially considering the team played like they were out drinking til 5 am the morning of.

That’s a fireable offense for Bleymaier. Good ****ing Christ man. Get rid of this guy yesterday.

Mahomes turning into a scared risk averse game manager makes perfect sense. His ****ing coach is a goddamn pussy.

Maybe there is credence to the Bieniemy thing bc goddamn is this embarrassing for the staff.

Been the passing game coordinator since 2023. Checks out if that's his mentality.

who is Blemeiyer and why are we entrusting our game planning to him and Nagy? Can't Andy take charge of the coaching for once and not delegate super important stuff to morons?

Bienemy held them accountable.

He screamed at them a lot. Whether or not that produced feelings of accountability in them is debatable.

Screaming is better than doing nothing, at least that can cause a little fear, I know that doing nothing allows people to run a muck, it's human nature.

Stroupe needs to go back to the bulletin board material as motivation.

And those coaches coaching scared? WTF? insert (You're fired) meme.

I don't have a problem with being honest about your emotions. Kinda refreshing actually. Fear of failure can be a powerful motivator, too. It does, however, point towards the question of who is responsible for the less explosive, risk averse offense? Is it really all a talent level thing or is it tightness from the coaching staff translating to the field and Mahomes' play? The statements aren't disqualifying, but combined with the product on the field, they aren't great.

*Mahomes enters film room for gameplanning and film study last week

Mahomes: good morning coach. What are we running through today?

Bleymaier:

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I would expect Mahomes to tell Bleymaier to nut the **** up, as opposed to morphing into a tentative Phallex Smith clone.

The "public" Mahomes would never swing his dick around in front of the coaching staff, but he's earned the right to do so behind closed doors.

The offense should exploit Mahomes' abilities, not bottle them up due to fear of failure.

A GOAT like Mahomes wants/demands to be coached hard… and Gheymaier is not providing that.

Your move, Andy.

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According to his wikipedia page, Bleymaier is a former college teammate of Brett Veach. So the organizaiton has entrusted the super bowl game plan to two of Veach's buddies...

Andy hired them. It's all Andy.

John Dorsey would never.

is it time to fly a banner LMAO

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Ew.

It sounds to me that the OC and his coaches were gutless wonders, not wanting to "harm" Pat. They are the 2nd biggest reason the offense tanked and Mahomes has regressed. (The first being the blocking)

Please fire them now.

Hearing the story of Mahomes apologizing to the team at halftime is definitely gut wrenching

No doubt. He’s 29, that ws a lot of pressure on him. Not just from the defense, but the gravity of the situation. He’s Superman to us, but he’s still human. You could see how heartbroken he was on the sidelines. Heard he went out, did the whole press conference, and answered every question before leaving.

The guy is incredible, but stuff like that hurts to hear.

He’s my hero.

It sounds embarrassing to say that as a grown man about another grown man, but he’s my favorite athlete ever. Albert Pujols was that for a long time and I never thought anyone could pass him, but Mahomes has done it. It never gets old watching him play.

I criticize him sometimes when he’s not playing well but it’s only because I know how great he is and I want to see that greatness at all times and see him get the recognition he deserves. I’ll ride with him until the day he’s no longer a Chief and if, god forbid, he ever goes to another team that’ll become my second favorite team until he retires.

I can’t thank him enough for the memories he’s already given me. Hopefully he’ll give us all many more over the next decade.

That's why these gut punches suck so hard.

The man has given us everything we ever dreamed of, and now everyone is disrespecting him.

It really ****ing hurts.

But it's worth it, if the payoff is what we have gotten and will get again.

Oh my...get the mop

All this criticism of Mahomes was leveled against Brady too after he lost 2 super bowls to the Giants. They said he'd never be Montana because he had 2 losses, but he changed the narrative with 4 more super bowl wins. Mahomes can do that and change people's perception of him. But it's up to him.

Then you need Fisher and Schwartz back.

And prime Kelce.

And a Watkins.

Don't worry...we're reloading as we speak

Was this overconfidence or what? It's like they didn't show up or want to play. Was there too much pressure?

They are selling them cheap

jfc why torture yourself looking at that shit

Are they giving those away in poor countries? It's a really nice design, actually.

^^

Reminder that this ****ing loser hates Mahomes and shit talked him because he loved Alice so much.

Rice is the new Kelce and worthy is better version of Watkins. Get a LT and resign Hollywood and we’re good. Only problem is Taylor isn’t Schwartz but he’s serviceable. If kelce comes back he’s good for 600-700 yards in limited role.