Today's music is mostly GARBAGE
 

Last night the Grammy Awards were on. I stopped watching award shows about 30 years ago for a variety of reason.

I saw some headlines this morning about the winners.

The Song of the Year is Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us"

This song is a piece of shit and how this garbage would be considered Song of the Year tells me that the music industry is another woke crap infested dump.

It is just another industry in decline.

What a joke.....

"Did you see Elvis and what he does on stage? That is disgusting and I can't believe he's allowed to perform. "

"Have you heard what they are listening to? Rock Music? I heard they talk about Satan. Can you believe that? What is happening to this country? "

"I can't believe how woke music is. Just filling their heads with crazy thoughts. "

Good to know some variation of this will be talked about by older people for as long as humans exist. The best music being whatever a person listened to growing up remains a constant theme, while whatever new music that is out when they are older always has something bad about it.

Music has always been "woke". You're right.

My biggest issue with modern pop music is that it requires absolutely no talent. Sure there's exceptions but even in the world of metal, which has generally been fairly pure, bands are using all kinds of computer-generated effects to produce music they can't reproduce live without computers.

The Grammys have never been a good barometer for what’s great and lasting in music have they?

Tons of snubs and acts that got overlooked.

Metallica performs live. Jethro Tull wins first ever metal Grammy.

Yeah.

Led Zeppelin never won a Grammy if I remember right?

Today’s music is fine. You don’t have to be slaves anymore to what people tell you to listen to. Go on pandora and Spotify and play something you like and eventually you’ll find new things you like. Pop music isn’t for me but there’s plenty of great music if you know where to find it. Music awards more than any other awards are always about commercial success and celebrity than it is artistry. Grammys are a poor marker

I do miss the days of good radio DJs pushing you to listen to music or hearing a good song 10 times before you really like it. That’s made it harder to find good music. But that has less to do with the music actually being bad

This is absolutely true. There's lots of great music out there, you just have to look for it.

It is crap and I choose to ignore it all.

I didnt even care when Kanya's whore showed up naked.


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Then look at her face. Something is not right.......

I honestly don't mind electronic elements in music.

What bothers me about modern pop music (including corporate metal) is that far too much of it sounds almost identical. It feels like they use an algorithm to generate "new" content. If your music doesn't fit in the algorithm, you don't get any promotion.

I know it's been that way to some degree for a long time, but it has gotten worse. Just mindless junk recycled ad nauseam. People listen to it because it is easy and they don't really have any understanding of how music gets made.

This is a pretty accurate take. However, I think Scho’s point (and I certainly agree if this is his take) is that a lot of new music just sucks. It’s not the dance moves or the messages being portrayed, it’s just not good music. But white middle aged guy is probably not the target demographic for most of these artists so they care **** all about my opinion. Hell, the last “new” band I got into was The Killers and they’re what, 20 years old as a band?

Oh, I don't mind electronic elements either. I just believe that should be used to elevate good music, not to make bad music sound good.

We are 100% in agreement there.

You know my musical tastes. I like a lot of sludge and stoner stuff. I'm kind of a purist. My personal rig is basically all analog. I don't use any digital effects really at all.

I will also add that is does not translate to good pep/marching/concert band music.

We used to play Chicago/EWF/ and all other kinds of music for pep and marching band. Horns make a song.

Today-it is just. thump thump boom boom thump. The music teachers in my school are having a hell of a time finding music the kids are interested in playing. Kids want something from today--well-it does not work well. The Admin told the teachers to make the class more 'sexy'. yes. You heard it.

Justin Timberlake does not turn into a good pep band song when a band is 12 players.

***ALERT***

BAND NERD DETECTED!

LMAO

You bet!!!!!!!!

Helped start the chop at Arrowhead

The Grammys have always been garbage. It's fodder for teenagers and gay dudes.

Todays corporate promoted music, because that is what the Grammys are, is pretty trash. Plenty of good stuff. You might have to spend some time to look for it but it is there.

The fact is, much of new music, as has been mentioned, all sounds the same. I'm not being really wowed by vocals, and there is way too much emphasis on auto tune. The level of talent required also seems much lower. Long gone are the days of Michael Jackson (a freak, but a ****ing genius), Prince (see another freaky genius) and so many others. I'm an old school metal guy, and admittedly I don't listen really to any new music at all. Sometimes I'll hear something catchy though.

They don't write em like they used to.

Also, check out my band!o:-)o:-)o:-)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...02agH2W1G3Iz-0

There's a barrel full of "not right' going on with those two. Nice body though.

Bandcamp is full of great music from bands CNN isn't going to tell you about.

The most popular music is almost always the worst music IMO.

Bandcamp is freaking awesome.

Especially if you're in a band. One of the best ways to get your music out there.

I don't really care if music is woke that much if it sounds good. I like the Chapelle Roan song and it's woke. But Kendrick Lamar is awful and it seems everyone likes it. I've never understood. I'm of the age now that I am out of touch mainly with new songs and I don't even know how I would find new music. It isn't even a rap thing because I like rap, even somewhat newer rap like Logic and Joyner Lucas - ok not too new - but not much older than Kendrick's older stuff.

I listen to stuff that's woke and stuff that isn't. I listen to stuff that is overtly Christian and I listen to stuff that is anti-Christian. I like music for music. If I was that concerned about lyrics, I'd read ****ing poetry. More than anything, I like music that challenges traditional thought and societal norms. You can do that from any side of the political aisle you want. That's the glory of art.

Same for the most part. Love the Killers. They seemed to be a good bridge from the older style of "rock" to the newer style of "pop" "electro rock" type music.

Some newish sounding bands I KIND OF like are The Neighbourhood, Foster the People, Twenty One Pilots, Grouplove, Bleachers, Glass Animals...but yes most of these bands are not even very new.

I've seen Twenty One Pilots live twice. My girls used to really love them. Not my cup of tea but damn if they weren't great live.

Same. Jazmin Bean and their presentation is very woke but damn the music is good. Helps that their latest album is not very woke but focuses more on recovery from trauma and drug addiction.

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Whatever man.

I'm 55 and think most new music blows, but Im not gonna go on a rant about it. I appreciate different opinions in this world, and ain't gonna get al tied up if something I don't like is popular.

I did notice that there are no longer bands.

The Best duo/group nominees were all solo artists who teamed up for a song collab.

I think marketing and executives are to blame.

I like some new music but mostly listen to retro stations. Music is a great mood lifter, I aint gonna turn on it.

Rock bands aren't dead. They're just not a popular thing anymore. It's all about individual personalities. Like you said, the industry is focused on featuring top tier artists with other top tier artists, stacking personalities. It was said in another thread: pop music is generally very shallow. So shallow that it often doesn't even matter what music they make. As long as a song has the right singer, it will sell.

So and so (feat. someone else)

I actually had to introduce a filing convention in my music collection.

So for example, if a song was a live version, I would use a [LIVE] tag to facilitate quick searching and stuff.

I have a filter element now for [FEAT.]

It's funny, when I was a kid, "classic rock" was stuff from the 50s that was 20 years old. Now, classic rock is stuff from the 70s and 80s that's 40 to 50 years old. There's a reason for that.

It's not like there wasn't plenty of vile shit being pawned off as music back then, but the stuff that was good has stood the test of time.

Classic rock is Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Janes Addiction now.

Man, you new around here?

Disagree with the thread title. I am completely in awe at the breadth and depth of music available to us in so many ways. Whatever you are into whatever you want to explore it is all there for the taking.

It is an incredible age for music. If something I personally like is not super popular or getting Grammys come what may?

I don't get it.

Is it time to call Nickleback classic rock yet?

Yeah, most music today is crap. Mainstream music is probably 100% garbage. Interesting that the more technology is used in music, the worse it is.

Yes. 20+ years in pop rock now.

There are certain commercials, Apple among them, that have an Asian sounding technobabble voice set to some sort of synth beat peppered with annoying tooting sounds. Is that just something some lunatic thought up for the commercial, or are there actually people in the world who pay to listen to that shit and like it?

I don’t normally watch this stuff, but I’m watching The Voice because I know one of the contestants. I feel dirty.

Lol, no idea. I don't listen to new music much anymore. Not for many years.



You might be talking about kpop. which is garbage.


here's a funny thing: several years ago when my nephew and niece were around 15-16 yrs old, they were listening to kpop and whatever else kids were listening to a few years ago. That X-Mas my brother and I were having a couple scotches, and put on some Stevie Ray V., Led Zep, Genesis, etc. They came downstairs and wanted to know who we were listening to. They sat and asked a bunch of questions about the bands and hung out with us for over an hour.

Since then, they don't listen to that modern crap. They're becoming zepheads, getting into SRV, the Eagles, Skynyrd, etc.


Real music trumps electronic nonsense every time.

Saw Grouplove live at a music festival a few years back. Dug em.

Considering the OP was specifically talking ABOUT the Grammy's what don't you get?

I agree with you - we live in an era where you can find anything if you search hard enough. I guarantee you I listen to more obscure stuff that you do and I still absolutely agree that there's plenty of good new music out there, as I said previously.

The OP's point still stands - the stuff the industry is trying to spoon feed us is mostly lowest common denominator garbage.

Bolded part coming in like a complete jerkoff aside...

It is funny watching someone who seems to have been like "the music industry used to give me good music and now it doesn't"

Also the thread title is "today's music is mostly garbage" which is just silly.

This is like saying

"Today's food is mostly garbage!!"

"Advertising has been pushing McDonalds on me for years and I had a double cheese burgher today and I don't like it!"

Like...ok?

Uh, wut?

The post seemed pretty straight forward...

- Mentioned a jerk off comment you made
- Talked about why I made my post (the thread title)
- Made a non music comparison to what the OP was doing in this thread

First off, it wasn't a jerk off comment or at least it wasn't intended to be, anyway. It was a statement that despite having pretty niche tastes in music, I agree with you - we live in probably the best time ever to find new, GOOD music.

My wife listens to a lot of new alternative pop/rock, mostly as background music on satellite radio, and I do notice a lot of is more electronic than what I'd consider rock based. More of a "vibes" feel with little to no edge. I honestly don't mind much of it, not my thing, but I can still pick up the artistic expression happening. Just my observation

I've been into hardcore punk and metal for 40 years and I actually see more aggro and toxic masculinity coming back in style with the newer, younger bands. I like that even though its not representative of who I am. Its almost like things are cyclical and go in and out of style with different generations

I actually stopped going to punk and metal shows in Chicago (I'm talking art space, basement, "message for address" shows, not venue/bars gigs) because a late 40s white guy at an underground show by himself looks like 5.0 and makes people uncomfortable LMAO

Gotta admit, I do the Microsoft rewards quizzes every once in awhile and I don't think I've ever gotten one right answer in the entertainment categories. Between all the good podcasts, AI and my Pandora list I'm in my own little world when it comes to entertainment.

If my sister wouldn't have given me her old Fire TV for the office I to watch a movie and the 6 o'clock news every once in awhile I'd be the equivalent of one of those Japanese soldiers stuck on the Mariana Islands that didn't know the war ended until 1952 as far as pop culture is concerned.

There's so much good music out there...everywhere. This can't be stressed enough. You have to go to it, though

Not everyone's cup of tea but a couple of kids with keyboards they loop, a trigger on the snare drum and a gopro

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I really think she is in a situation that she wants out of.. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of other abuse going on besides her being made to degrade herself in public…

It's super ****ing creepy the way he's just standing there staring at her. Her facial expression really looks like she absolutely doesn't want to be there.

Celebs are so weird.....

I doubt it. Chick was weird af even before Kanye.

youtube alt nation sirusxm you will find some good talent

I think it's incredibly worthy to note...

The Song "Not Like Us" by Kendrick that won SONG AND RECORD of the year, it's merely just an elaborate way of calling one of the highest selling artists of all time a pedophile.

Then everybody at the grammys sang along and also called that man a pedophile.

Kendrick will likely perform this song at the Superbowl and accuse that man of being a pedophile in front of 100 million people live.

But we get ****ing banned for doing the same thing to faceless internet trolls on chiefsplanet.com?

Make it make sense.

This is my music I love indie rock. Should try Eyedress, he opened for glass animals when they were in kc. Also royel Otis , winnetka bowling league, and goldford.

Alt Nation is where it’s at. Unfortunately we lost alt rock in kc with 96.5 folding and 105.1 being short lived.

What a hill to die on.

Someone must've heard Sigma Boy recently...

(god almighty do I hate that song. Damn kids listen to it in the morning -- I'm pretty sure it's all in Russian so the lyrics aren't objectionable enough to yell at them for. It's just so bad)

Yeah, she's kind of sporting a look that says drugged/abused/horrified. And it's definitely not a "hey, this was my idea" kind of look.

God, that guy is a ****ing creep. :shake:

Then again, models just have strange looks on their face most of the time...

I really don't put anything past the spectacularly wealthy anymore. They're all weird as ****.

Soooooo.

My daughter became a Swifty. Like Whole Hog. That is literally ALL she listens to. Ever.

I'm no Swift hater. I think she's probably the best role model of celebrities out there. Plus mad respect for clearing a billion last year. Hats off. No problem here.

I'm just amazed how she managed to get my daughter to ONLY care about 1 artist. I was never there, I had favorite artists, but there were others in the genre.

So I have no clue what Sigma Boy is, but yeah, kids these days. /Get off my lawn.

Mostly I'm just a fan of irony.

Yes. There are still great rock bands. They are harder to find today.

Let night while cooking dinner I turned off the TV news and brought the SONOS speaker into the kitchen and put on one of my favorite Pandora channels.

Created a completely different experience. For the better. Gonna do that now.

Not really. Japan is producing a ton of them currently.

I just mean rock bands aren't played constantly on mainstream radio. It requires a little effort to find them.

This is the way. If you have Spotify, try to get some recommendations on new bands once it understands your algorithm. Might need a little extra oomph so it doesn’t just spit back nothing but classic rock. I think you’ll find there is more music out there than you think.

On the one hand it’s not curated anymore and you don’t have really good DJs finding music you’ll like. On the other hand it’s as easy as ever to listen to what you want and not what someone is forcing you to as it was during the radio days.

It's easily self-curated, though.

I uploaded my entire CD collection to Google Music. It learned my preferences from the artists and albums in my upload library.

It recommends new stuff based on that.

I had avoided this song until this morning. My 8 yo son was singing it and I thought back to this thread then listened to it.

It's a pile of shit

Does Zach have an opinion that isn't a piece of shit?

Out of a world of celebs she is an A to S tier of decent people.

Chiefs fan after all.

Tom Petty wrote a great song about this.

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Yeah this is one of my biggest beefs with the way we consume media now. Algorythms make our world smaller. You have to make a huge effort to get out of that.
It was cited as one of the reasons festivals are tanking. Lots of young people only know one or two bands on the bill so they don't see the value. (also, they are expensive, and also stated they don't have a friend to go with, which is one of the saddest facts of all)

For me, especially considering the type of music I listen to, it's that the way music is consumed now, it's kind of killed the concept of albums. Everybody is streaming basically like the radio. It's all top 100 stuff, single after single. Kids don't listen to albums anymore and for me, I find that kind of sad. Because just about every album I buy, there's one or two tracks that are better than the song I heard that made me want to buy the album in the first place.

I think you have said this same saying about dying on hills 500 times this year alone.

Come up with some new material.

He has a very limited selection of regurgitated responses that aren't even his own words, that's for sure.