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Awesome list. I like a lot of these guys too.
I don't know why, but this seams like a great year to spend some mid-round draft capital (Which we have thanks to the Snead trade) on LB, RB, and WR, which would do wonders to keeping our championship window wide open. I love WRs like Felton! |
Loved Bucky Irving and wanted him badly. Getting the same vibes from KU RB Devin Neal this year.
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Edit: He had a tough time in that playoff game but got like 1/3rd the touches. |
Iowa RB Kaleb Johnson and TE Luke Lachey. Really like both of them.
RB and TE are stacked in this draft. If I had it my way I’d draft those positions with our 2 3rd rd picks. |
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Here are some dudes I really like, no particular order, just stream of consciousness. TE Luke Lachey, Iowa. RunKC mentioned him in the previous post, but I really like Lachey. I have a good friend who is from Iowa/big Iowa fan, so I was salivating over him last year, too. Really athletic, big TE who can move like a WR and do WR. Shifty for his size, faster than you. He's worked outside, inside, and is a good route runner. Plus, Iowa TE pedigree. I think his recovery from a season-ending injury in 2023 slowed him a bit in 2024, but would bet on him looking more like the athlete he was before the injury as some time goes on. Nick Singleton, RB, Penn State. I love his size/speed/athleticism. One of Bruce Feldman's Freak List guys. Needs to refine his skills as a pass catcher, but already shows good pass-blocking ability. Not the most elusive guy in the open field, but he is fast and powerful and can run through some contact. Brashard Smith, RB, SMU You know the Clarks would love it, with their SMU ties. Smith is a converted WR and raw at the RB spot, but he is fast, fast, fast. If you have been dreaming about Devon Achanne in the Chiefs' offense, this would be your dude. Not big, and needs work as a pass blocker to be a third-down back, but he has explosive potential. May run too well to draft in a developmental QB range. Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State I was high on Egbuka last year and still am. He didn't have the explosive draft-elevating season he wanted when he went back to Ohio State, but this guy screams Jeremy Maclin to me. He's got the size to play outside, has experience as an outside receiver and a slot guy, he's got hands, he runs good routes, he has 4.3 speed, and he has been coached at a program that has proven it can develop WRs for the NFL. I don't know that the Chiefs WANT to spend another top 50 pick on a WR, but if they did... Jimmy Horn, Jr., WR, Colorado. He's a 5-10 slot guy who runs 4.3. That's someone to monitor for the Chiefs if I've seen one... but Horn also has shown good ability to track the ball downfield and make guys miss. Intriguing Day 3 type. Theo Wease, Jr., WR, Missouri. Wease is a 4.4-4.5 guy with good size. He wasn't asked to run a complicated route tree at Mizzou, but he showed a good combination of skills that give me hope he can develop that at the next level. He's big and knows how to use it, can make some things happen after the catch, has good hands, and can run a little bit. Dylan Fairchild, OG, Georgia. Fairchild's experience as a starter was limited at Georgia, but he looks like a perfect eventual replacement at LG for the Chiefs. He's extremely athletic and excellent in pass protection, though he lacks power at the point of attack. He's got T athleticism and feet, but G length... Jack Sawyer, DE, and JT Tuimolaua, DEs, Ohio State Sawyer is an intense, high-motor DE with good power and enough speed. He's got a decent array of moves, above-average for a college produce. Tuimolaua is similar. Both fit the Spags mold nicely. Nic Scourton, DL, Texas A&M. Scorton is an athletic, big defensive lineman who can play inside and out. Very athletic for a man in the 280s. Reminds me a lot of Omenihu and Keion White. Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky. This guy is a freak, freak. 6-5/350 and way, way more explosive and athletic than any man that size should be. Probably needs to shed a bit of weight, but he would be an awesome person to put next to Jones for the twilight of his career and could be a guy you build your defensive line around for years to come. J.J. Pegues, DT, Ole Miss. Super, super athletic former TE. He's not ideal height (6-2), but he is stout and doesn't get put on skates against the run like you might expect from an athletic, converted TE. He's raw, but I see a lot of upside there. And someone who could excel early as a pass rush specialist on the inside (Terk Wharton replacement?) Shemar Stewart, DL, Texas A&M. Like his fellow Aggie, Stewart is a jumbo-DE type with much more athleticism than you'd expect from someone his size. He's raw, but explosive and a great scheme fit. Can rush from the edge or inside. Lander Barton, LB, Utah. I have a feeling our draft forum's name sake would be screaming at us about Barton. He's a modern NFL WLB... fast and rangy, good in coverage. Also big enough to not be a liability against the run. Mansoor Delane, CB, Va. Tech. Height/speed profile fit the Chiefs' preferences. Has experience at CB and S. Smart, shows good instincts. Tony Grimes, CB, UNLV. Grimes was an elite prospect who has great long speed (4.3) and size. His play hasn't matched his measureables, but there's a lot of raw clay to work with here. Could be a Veach Day 3 special. Jaylen Reed, S, Penn State. I expect KC to lose one J Reid at S, but this could keep the roster stocked with them. Good athleticism, he's a communicator/smart, physical. Not the smoothest man coverage player, but good size and speed. |
^Love the Tony Grimes call out! He’s another guy I’m curious about. Seems like the kind of later round plus-athleticism CB that Veach loves!
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Here’s some guys I like that aren’t necessarily considered blue chip and may spark interest, will update with more info eventually
DL Ivey, Burch, D Walker, D Jackson OL Cornelius, Nelson, Zuhn RB Smith, Sampson CB Bryant, Grimes WR Horton TE Helm, Gadsden |
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The Penn State guys I have liked for a while all showed up last night. Tyler Warren TE probably will be well out of reach even before last night's showing. Nick Singleton would be an upgrade over Pachecho and seems to have have great vision and HR speed and Dani Dennis-Sutton fits the Spags DE mold.
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I really think we're at a place where we just need to stack good, cheap football players regardless of position.
The positions of need are not going to be found picking post #30. They're just not. Don't even concern yourself with the idea. You're going to have to pay DE's and OT's. Resign yourself to that fact and go cheap elsewhere. |
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I like Mello Dotson from KU too. |
What do we think about Skattebo in this offense?
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Added a handful of RBs for you guys... I'll get to more eventually.
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Like them! Kaleb is an Iowa product, not Mizzou, though. Bhayshul Tuten (Va Tech) is interesting to me. I think he’s going to run really fast at the combine. Good receiving skills. And has nice size. |
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He seemed to take more of his long runs the distance as a junior. Makes me wonder if he had a lingering injury or something as a senior. The rumor is that KU’s WRs hated Kotelnicki. I also speculate that Coach K was much better about making his WRs block downfield, which may explain why Neal took more to the house before he left. His ability to make guys miss within the hole and then put his foot in the ground and get what’s there is big time though. I’ll be surprised if he isn’t at least what Khalil Herbert was for the Bears his first few seasons. |
Seeing reports that O'Rourke played the season with an ACL injury he suffered in AUGUST.
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How do you guys feel about these smaller school, smallish stature, pass rushers like Mike Green and David Walker? I know we took FAU, but these types are always tempting.
Mike Green Marshall 6-4 & 250 lbs ~4.6 40-yrd 91 Pass Rush Rating 90 Run Stop Rating 17 Sacks & 4 FF "Twitched-up edge rusher with explosive get-off and natural bend through contact to flatten to the quarterback around the arc. Advanced pass rush arsenal featuring violent hand swipes, swim moves, and counter spin moves executed with plus coordination” David Walker Central Arkansas 6-2 & 260 lbs ~4.65 40-yrd 100 Pass Rush Rating 100 Run Stop Rating 10.5 Sacks & 4 FF "Super athletic - Made Bruce Feldman's Freak's List at #76. He Wrote: "Walker had 66 tackles, 21 TFLs, and 12 sacks in 2022. The 6-2, 260-pound Atlantic Sun Conference Defensive Player of the Year runs the 40 in 4.65, vertical-jumped 36 inches and power-cleaned 374. He’s also squatted 615 pounds this offseason and benched 225 pounds for 24 reps.” - DraftBuzz |
Tyler Warren TE Penn State, Kaleb Johnson RB Iowa, Savion Williams WR TCU, Xavier Watts S Notre Dame,
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Crow needs to check out Walter Nolan from Ole Miss. He would be an awesome pick
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Historically trading up for TEs has a spotty success rate but if he manages to fall into the late teens somehow, I'm making calls. That's a turnkey Kelce replacement, IMO. Or more accurately, the next in the line of HoF Chief TEs. He's legit. I see a mock from CBS that has him falling to Denver at 22 -- I just don't see a way in the world I let that happen. You need my 2nd and some change to move up to 19 and grab him? Done. |
Seriously fellas -- look at Warren. Crow and Duncan are dead on.
I mean down to the converted QB shit. What might help us (a lot) is that there are two other good TEs with genuine first round grades, IMO. Fannin will get the guys looking for the "Next Bowers" all hot and bothered. Loveland is a guy who the guys looking for projectability will love because his QB play was dogshit this year and he actually looked better last season. But I'll take the biggest one with the most production and that weird converted QB mojo that seems to put Kelce ahead of his peers out there. |
I don’t see any way Warren falls out of the top 15. Everyone knows how good that guy is. I’m not excited about the fact that the Chargers and Broncos both need a TE badly bc I could totally see one of them go after him. And yeah after the combine he’s gonna be a riser.
I could see a team like the Colts, Cowboys or Dolphins take him. In fact I think that’s exactly what will happen. But goddamn is this a good TE class. We need to take another one |
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He doesn't have crazy feet and quickness to run routes like a slot WR like Bowers, but he's huge and fast and is a matchup problem down the seam while ALSO being a clever route runner with great hands... |
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Like I said, Fannin appears to be that 'mold' of TE out of this year's draft. The glorified H-Back sort like Bowers and McBride. Maybe calling him Bowers isn't fair, but maybe Kincaid? Loveland maybe more a of Hockenson type? And if a trade can't get made to get to Warren, I'd be fine staying put and seeing if Loveland fell. He'd be a really intriguing consolation prize. I don't love Fannin though. Don't like the type of player, REALLY don't like the quality of competition. |
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Because strong at the top only matters if we'll take one in RD1. And it may be the time to do so, but I kinda wonder if Andy doesn't trust in Andy here and thinks he can get the next stud TE out of much more raw clay like Wiley. |
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Top 5 TE’s look solid, I doubt the top 2 drop to us though and Fannin doesn’t have optimal size. Although, that didn’t stop us with Grey who's development I’m high on!
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Mason Taylor from LSU in the 3rd would be my guy at TE. I don't think we need to spend premium assets on a TE. If we spend assets to get into the top 20, it sure as hell better be for a LT or DE.
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Put me down for Gadsden out of Syracuse with our late 3rd or 4th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiz1PH8SNSI
Dude is 6-5, 236, with 4.5 speed producing ~950yds, ~14 yrds per rec, & ~7 TDS per season over 2 fully healthy years @ 82% PFF rating "Exceptional athleticism for his size, blending wide receiver agility with tight end stature Demonstrates elite acceleration and burst, creating mismatches against linebackers and safeties Possesses advanced route-running skills, using fluid hips and sharp cuts to create separation Versatile weapon who can line up in-line, in the slot, or split out wide Dangerous after the catch, using his agility and speed to create additional yardage 85% hands ratings, 91% intermediate routes & 92% deep threat Top Comps = Trey McBride, Cade Stover, Jared Wiley” -DraftBuzz |
Yeah I really really like this kid. Dominating SEC competition with power and speed the way Chris Jones did.
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TE1 Grey, TE2 Wiley, & TE3/WR Gadsden would be a solid group for us when Kelce retires, maybe overkill. Also we love deep speed and he’s a former track athlete that finished as the #2 TE for deep receptions. |
TreVeyon Henderson would be incredible here. Ideal fit for this offense.
Unfortunately we’d have to use our 1st on him and you just can’t do that |
Chiefs had the fewest runs of 10+ yards this year with 17.
Have to draft a RB. Great year for it |
What do you guys think of Jack Sawyer as a pro? Whether Chiefs or not.
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I go back and forth on the Ohio State Rb’s. But I think I can see Veach preferring Judkins. Only 21, and the dude is a MENACE in pass pro. There’s so many rb’s to like in this class. I think the titans pick will be a prime spot to grab one |
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Lets put the school aside I like both of those KU corners those are going to be mid round guys. Would love to snag either of them
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Lot’s of good RBs in this draft, who do you guys like for KC? I’m currently high on…
-Khaleb Johnson - Great balance and vision, most of his highlights reflect excellent run blocking from the OL but feels like he has Kamara’like potential. -TreVeyon Henderson - Runs with great patience and burst, wasn’t used as a bell cow so should have plenty of tread left. -Dylan Sampson - Speed back that runs with surprising balance, saw a bit more Kareem Hunt in his game than expected. -Brashard Smith - Maybe the best highlights of any RB this year, explosive big playmaker with serious receiving chops, potential low cost investment in the back half of the draft. |
Lots of good RB talent. Kind of waiting to see if any get the shake down at the combine like usual. I think we should prioritize speed. And it may be an over reaction to early in the season post Pacheco and Rice injuries. But we had X and absolutely no one else on the field who was a threat to break one.
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I honestly don't care much at all about 'pairing' Pacheco with anyone at this point.
I want a new, better RB1. If Pacheco can forge a role as an RB2 in short-yardage situations, neat - so much the better. But he's not been any better than Hunt this season and in a lot of ways worse. I'm not looking to supplement the RB room - I'm looking to upgrade on it. |
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Unfortunately we’d have to pick him in the 1st bc he’ll be a top 40 pick at worst. I get people want WR’s every year but this offense needs a good RB in the worst way. Fewest explosive plays from that position in the league |
Hey Crow. Check out Jared Ivey. 6’6” 285 lb DL with versatility. Omenihu type player. Excellent prospect that could one day replace Chris Jones.
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Both Penn State RBs are going back to school for another year.
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I like the idea of pairing Pachecco with another high quality back, especially another speed back or a 3rd down pass-catcher like McKinnon was for us. Two RBs with Pachecco’s speed cycling in with fresh legs would be a plenty enough to give the D fits.
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I think Perines been integrated with the playoffs in mind. Like Mckinnons last two years we didn't start using that until the end of the season. I expect his role to grow. Perine and hunt are pretty long in the tooth. Ideally I'd like to revamp the whole room over the next two years. Pacheco is at the end of his contract and unfortunately he's just not elite at anything. He's got pretty good speed but not quickness, his visions lacking and he's really not that great short yardage. He's just a high effort guy. I love that about him but don't want to build the room around it going forward.
It's hard to ever think your in a good position to prioritize RB but on offense we've got prospects I like on the line, receivers coming around (probably need to bring back Hop or Hw) and tight ends pretty solid. As far as offensive resources I think were at a spot where the RB position needs a little make over. |
Adding a big batch today for ya'll...
DE Jack Sawyer, DE Ashton Gillotte, DT Derrick Harmon, DT Walter Nolan, DT Deone Walker, WR Emeka Egbuka, WR Jack Bech, WR Jaylin Noel, WR Jalen Royals, LT Josh Simmons, RG Marcus Mbow, LB Jay Higgins, LB Danny Stutsman, and CB Jahdae Barron |
Would our 2nd round pick be too early or too late for Mbow?
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Curious what you see in Ashton Gillotte? I’m not sure what to think about him, he’s not very tall or long, but has 80+ pressures over the last 2 seasons. Is he a situational pass rusher type like FAU? |
Kyren Lacy, top NFL draft prospect, arrested on negligent homicide after deadly crash
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The guy I’ve been eyeing as an Omenihu replacement is Oregon’s DE Jordan Burch, 6-6, 295 lbs:https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...-SouthCarolina He’s got size, can play the run and the pass, and is versatile like Omenihu where he can play inside or out. |
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Especially not a power back -- someone that's likely to get you 4 YPC and just grind things works in a pinch, but it's not how this team SHOULD be looking to win games. Let every team in the league that DOESN'T have Patrick Mahomes go get their heavy backs and force defenses to adjust back. We don't need to be the trendsetters there and shouldn't want to be. There are 31 other football teams that aren't the Chiefs. 25 of those have middling or worse QB play. Those guys can go get their thunderbacks and convince opposing DCs that they need to change the way they construct their defenses. I'll take the dude with the speed off the edge instead. |
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I like him as well. Not sure I'd want to use a 1st on him, but we could potentially get him with our 2nd and that would be a sweet spot for him. Former big shit HS prospect who was good but never great in college. Those guys are often music to Brett's ears. Gimme that sweet sweet pedigree and the measurables for days. Ducks in the 1st and 2nd with Conerly and Burch would be just fine by me. |
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Yeah - again, I'm not at all worried about longevity with Pop. I'm worried about ability. He just doesn't have enough of it. He's a guy who's going to get what's blocked...maybe. I want someone that can get that and then make a guy miss to start racking up those Yards over Expected. Pacheco doesn't do that. On a good run, he hits the seam, explodes through it and then smashes into the first guy that gets in front of him. It takes too much going right for him to even get a 20 yarder. But when you watch someone like Gibbs, if he gets through the first level, all hell can break loose. I'd be fine moving Pacheco to a straight up backup role next season. I wouldn't even be super eager to have him as a short yardage back because he's not particularly good at that. We're carrying 4 backs right now, right? I'd be fine doing that again next year with Henderson, Pacheco, Hunt and a 3rd down back. I don't need a FB and to whatever extent one might be necessary, just use Hunt as an up back. He's a willing and capable blocker. I'm just running out of use for Pacheco at this point. He's...fine. That's it. I'm not sure I even prefer him to what Damien Williams brought to the table in 2019. |
I don't think he's fine. I'd be looking to upgrade.
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But yes, we should be looking to upgrade. Singleton going back to Penn State is a kick in the dick, though. He wasn't the guy I preferred, but he was the guy that could end up pushing Henderson into our range in the 2nd. I think that's a bit of a pipe dream at this point. You have Jeanty and Hampton that probably go before Henderson but I don't see Henderson going after Johnson or James. And I don't see the 3rd RB off the board lasting to 64. That said, if we really don't want to take Henderson in the 1st, I'd be looking at Dylan Sampson in the 2nd. He's more of a Gibbs type in that he's a little slight but on the plus side, lik Gibbs, he can be a real pain in the ass as a pass catcher. If you aren't going to just bury Pacheco, Pacheco/Sampson as a Thunder/Lighting duo could really work out nicely. It's a fine alternative. And I do expect Sampson will be available at the back of the 2nd. |
RJ Harvey looks like what we were wanting to get from Clyde. 5’9 208 lbs. way better vision than Clyde as well as speed/agility. Might be worth a look in the 3rd rd
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