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Whining about the team with the best record in the NFL?
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Whining about the team with the best record in the NFL?
You are a ****ing bitch.
This place is ****ing unbelievable right now. You'd think we were struggling to stay in the wild card race. GET A CLUE The Chiefs are about to win four in a row. That will run us to 13-1. We'll lose to either the Texans OR the Steelers. One of them. Not both. We'll be 14-2 going into Week 17, and the one seed will be LOCKED UP. We will then rest starters and enjoy two weeks off before we begin the run to the threepeat. Bookmark this ****ing thread. And clean up your vaginal blood. IT STINKS. |
I'm enjoying the ride like this to the haters and nay sayers.
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People expect the team to win every game? It was bound to happen. Geez.
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I say we run the table. Bills got lucky that we didn’t score third quarter
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LT and needing one more corner in an ideal situation is pretty much where my gripes end. |
**** all traitors and cowards
CHIEFS WILL |
We should be allowed to call out flaws in our team. It's not about the regular season, it's about what we saw against the Bucs in the Super Bowl. Pat is running scared in similar ways.
On top of that he's throwing WTF interceptions every week. Can we flip the switch? Sure. But that LT could possibly cost us a playoff game. |
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And I’ve seen him not get to the SB with everything seeming perfect (Bengals) A lot of season left |
I don't know what the fret is. We get Pacheco back that's a major boost & we will get Hollywood Brown back for the playoffs that teams don't have a clue what to do. In the meantime, we have been cruising to the playoffs and first place in the division. Sure, we have problems I'm not saying we don't, but we can overcome our shortcomings.
There is no Quarterback I'd rather have than Patrick Mahomes II he is the most clutch quarterback I've ever seen. |
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let's be real, we were never going to go undefeated. the NFL's just too hard. it was a "fun" story while it ran. ha ha.
we get some of those weapons back, we shore up the left side (more chips, etc) and we refocus on how to wrap up J. Allen, WBF. i truly believe Andy went as vanilla as he could vs. the Bills. we will see them again, and will do what we always do. i still love this team and i believe in Patrick Mahomes. |
A loss is and armchair GM's Super Bowl. Stop pissing on their red flow parade
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I never expected to go 17-0.
time to move on |
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I never thought we would go undefeated. I was not one of those with the doom and gloom posts. I can be disappointed we lost without taking the eyes off the prize.
But, we have a long history of heart crushing loses. I totally understand their views. I've lived the last 20 years with you guys sharing our shared pain of those losses. There is multiple reasons to be hopeful. Pacheco is back this week. Just think about the cold playoff games...defenses trying to tackle Pacheco and Hunt in the cold all game. Now, we have Brown to run those deep routes. Mahomes will be the same Mahomes he has always been in the playoffs. Suck it up buttercups. Enjoy this ride. |
We’re 9-1 and tied for the best record. But it’s pretty clear we have concerns. Kelce is showing his age, LT is still an unstable position, Pat is off which throws the whole offense off. We had a bad game, but there’s also a gameplan that teams are using against us now, and we haven’t really figured it out yet. It’s ok to be worried about the issues the team has, while supporting them. We’re 9-1, but it ain’t all rainbows and unicorns.
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Every team has concerns. It's okay to discuss those concerns. But we're 9-1. With a pretty tough schedule especially to open the season.
We lost a game on the road against a team that's probably the 3rd best in the league right now. It happens. The defense is struggling a bit but has some secondary losses to scheme around. That will get better and just like with the Bengals a couple years ago, spags was probably playing a little vanilla in preparation for seeing the bills again later. LT is the biggest issue but we still have a lot of talent to scheme around this as well. This team has a killer instinct in the post season. Nobody wants to play them. The bills will drop some stupid game they shouldn't and the chiefs tend to do this too. Lots of games left still and I doubt any teams wins out. We have a great shot to win it all again this year. Going to need some breaks just like every year. |
Mahomes has been off this year that's undeniable. Now as far as the reason for that is who knows. Is it the receivers, is it the offense, is it nagy, is it the play calls, is it the protection, is it a culmination of all of the above?
Our left tackle sucks so let's not give him help on that side or try to run quicker passes/screens to help negate the rush. That's what drives me the most nuts. It's like we're too stubborn to realize that our LT is nothing more than a tackling dummy and we seemingly make no adjustments for that. Edit: this doesn't mean we suck but we have more issues than we have had the last two years and we're still 9-1 |
They've got some potential fatal flaws. They can't get to the QB and aren't explosive on offense.
They had higher sack rates last year, but when you kinda drilled down on that, it was alot of linebackers/CB's/Safeties. The front 4 isn't getting the job done. |
I'm certainly not in that camp, but we have all seen a LOT of Chiefs games, especially in the Reid years, and it's not whining to grade the eyeball test. We all believe the sputtering offense is capable of so much more than they have displayed for TWO years now, and the problems (injuries, tackles) can't be fixed this year. The defensive weaknesses (pass rush, 2nd corner) were also put under the spotlight against good competition; hopefully Omenihu helps, but praying a guy coming off knee surgery will fix the pass rush is a bit desperate. Hope for the best, but this team needs PM to play at a HOF level to stand a chance, and he currently is not, hasn't at any point this year, and didn't for a good portion of last year. It also needs the D to end this year like they did last year, and they won't if Nazeeh can't get his shit together and the line can't find the next gear in pass rush. There is never anything wrong with an honest analysis.
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cool! another TrueFan GroupThink thread. let me explain something to you. people Are different. they have differing experiences both as fans and in real life that impacts how they root for their favorite football team . I became a fan in 1967 at the age of 9. those chiefs teams were AMAZING to root for. then we went through 50 years of nut punches. everyone makes fun of the Jets in terms of futility but until a few years ago we were the Jets. both teams had gone 50 years without a SB appearance let alone a win . that shapes how you watch games. I don't begrudge any fan's way of rooting for the Chiefs. the TrueFan competition is pretty tedious. when I need you to tell me how to root for my team I will let you know.
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The Texans aren't winning in Arrowhead, but I'm not so sure KC will be resting starters in the last week. The Bills will probably lose in Detroit, but they might win the rest. Hopefully the Rams get em.
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I mean, we'll be here to mock and laugh at you, but it's your right to experience the dynasty how you want and ours to react accordingly. |
Winning close games is always good but is usually indicative of a good not great team.
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I remember the WRs suck thread last year..
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At this point, there's no reason to doubt what this team can and will do in the playoffs. We all know this is nothing but an extended pre-season to these guys, which Kelce basically proved during the Bills game with his golf clap at the end of it. I almost think they are partially relieved that they lost. Taking every team's best shot week after week for 3-4 years has got to be more exhausting than anyone here can even imagine, not to mention they've literally played almost an entire extra season in that time, which is insane to think about.
I think people are getting bored, because the games just aren't exciting anymore. We look like the 2000s Patriots, and those games were just brutal to watch. People want all the high flying shit and blowing everyone out 52-10. It's just not realistic anymore, and you need to adjust your mindset accordingly. The regular season is just an obstacle at this point. Once the playoffs roll around, Andy brings out the big guns from the playbook and we flip the switch. Don't know how many times it has to happen for people to understand it, but I get it. Think about where we were last year compared to this year at this time. Pretty safe to say, as the old CP saying goes, we'll be fine. I would hate to be a person who can't convince themselves otherwise after everything we've seen. You're really not soaking this in as much as you should be if that's the case, and you also might not quite understand exactly what it is you're watching. |
The whole "they're getting everyone's best shot" thing seems a bit overblown to me. In a 17 game season.....everyone plays every week like that.
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The bottom line here is that the Chiefs are in the driver's seat for #1 seed. Last year they had to go on the road for most of the playoffs. Despite the issues, they're still in better shape than last year.
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I made this post, and didn't realize I was in the Xavier Worthy thread. LMAO This seems like a better place for it.
I think it's important to keep a historical perspective on what we've done. Beating the Bills would have been huge, but the reality remains it's hard to win, it's doubly hard to win consistently. It's infinitely harder to do what we're trying to do. Which is why no one has done it. Quote:
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We're in our Metallica St Anger era
There's no good songs but its still going 2x Platinum |
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OTOH, no team is going to mail it in agains the Chiefs unless they get down a few scores... we know all too well the Chiefs mail it in sometimes and can play like shit for 3 quarters and still win. The Chiefs almost never get the advantage of another team being unfocused or a step slow. And they're also not playing the Panthers every week, either... they're in hard hitting, intense rivalrly games more often than not, where as it's far easier to get up for your one game against the Chiefs. |
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That put them in a situation at the end of the game where they...had to go for it on 4th down against instead of kicking another field goal. The Chiefs mystique is still alive. |
I am enjoying every minute . It doesn’t mean that I have lost all capacity for critical thought . Loving something or even someone means seeing the good and the bad . But if you are more comfortable with posters who “ guarantee “ on draft day that Skyy Moore will be a good WR ( because we drafted him ) then you be you
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It’s almost as if a good portion of the board have forgotten last year.
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I don’t get the whining. This game and the 49ers were universally agreed to be likely losses.
Love what Kent Swanson and Matt Lane said about the offense last night. They were spot on: -The offense has had issues since preseason. They spent the entire summer preparing for Hollywood and Rashee and guess what? They’re out. WR1 and WR2 -There’s been a constant shuffling of weapons. Pacheco gone, Rashee and Hollywood gone. Juju only played 1 game then was out. Hopkins and Worrhy are works in progress and will take time. Worthy performance in Buffalo shows progress. -No juice at RB. Hunt has been good but there’s no explosiveness. It’s gotten worse the last 2 weeks. -Kelce isn’t what he was. That fastball isn’t there very often anymore. Kind of like an aging pitcher. He can be a closer at this point but he’s not a regular starter anymore. Rice was that guy to take his spot and the Falcons game was a clear indicator of what that would look like. -offense feels disconnected and doesn’t have an identify at the moment They will get this fixed and Mahomes will be on a good enough page with Hopkins/Worthy by January. Pacheco will bring back juice and I trust Mahomes and OL to play well when it matters |
They had worse stretches of bad play last year and the year before , it’s possible they don’t fix it this year . We might not win the Superbowl every year , even if we don’t make the playoff this year I would be happy with our recent success . I am definitely not losing sleep over a week 11 game or any game that is out of my control.
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I very much appreciate everything Reid & Veach has done for this franchise. That being said, we are in the present and are in the prime of Pat Mahomes' career, do not want that to go to waste and leave Championships on the table.
There have been some major questionable decisions the last couple years, including failures in the high draft rounds of the last few drafts (FAU, Kingsley, Moore, etc., hopefully FAU still pans out, maybe make him a linebacker?). Matt Nagy, what does he do? Since he has rejoined Mahomes' production has been cut in half or worse. The WR situation last year, and the LT situation this year, like how was it acceptable that we enter last year's season with the WR roster we had, and now this year with the LT players we have? I think all of us know that there are potential more Superbowls to win, and we want to take as much of them as we possibly can (make hay while the sun is shining). |
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If my aunt had gonads she'd be my uncle, but KC just needs to worry about being in a position to rest starters during that ridiculous 3 game stretch coming up, and not getting Mahomes killed. |
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Honestly, I feel like all the problems the Chiefs have are solvable with players scheduled to return from injury, and the offense tightening up some issues here and there. I'm not sweating Morris at LT as much as others -- though I do agree the Chiefs need to fix that issue next year.
With one exception. Losing Jaylen Watson seems to have truly kneecapped the secondary. Sadly, Joshua Williams is out of the rotation altogether, and Nazeeh isn't making smart coverage choices. My preference against a team like the Bills might be heresy, but I'd like to see us put McDuffie back in the slot whenever we're going up against a good slot team, and take our chances with Nazeeh and Williams on the outside. I don't know how well that will work, but guys were running wide open all over the Chiefs secondary against Buffalo. It makes no sense to continue doing the same thing. |
There will always be some posters who will complain no matter what. My favorite CP moment was in Andy's first year in 2013, a year after the WORST season in Chiefs history, and Andy somehow gets the team to start 9-0 which is just freakin incredible. In week 11, the Chiefs then lose their FIRST game to a very good Denver team, and someone posts, "I can now see why the Eagles fired Andy." and then goes on to list all of Andy's flaws. ROFL
It's just the nature of the site. |
I had on my chiefs quarter zip yesterday at the PT office. The receptionist asked how I was doing. I said great. Then pointed to my shirt, and said something like tough loss. She then told me she was a bills fan. I laughed, said have fun watching my team play in the Super Bowl.
This team is going to get better as the play offs approach. In all honesty the Chiefs approach the regular season like it’s preseason. They work on things try to get guys involved etc. I get it, it would be fun stomping on the gas like the Lions and boat racing your opponents every week, but this franchise is focused on winning championships. Like actual championships not fantasy leagues etc. I believe when it matters Worthy will be a star. I believe when it matters Kelce will wreck opposing defenses. I believe when it matters Patrick will be more aggressive. (Seriously there were times in the game where Hunt was wide open as a dump off right out of the gate and would have easily got the first down). AFC playoff are going to be a blast watching the Steelers, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, and Broncos beat the everyone g shit out of one another on wild card weekend. |
This is the key.
They've gotta just push for the 1 seed now. Just lock that up and let them all sort that part out on WC weekend. That was always a big key for the Pats. Have the 1 seed, get the bye, then get the 4th seed coming into Foxboro. I'd guess this year you probably get a WC team coming in. |
If Mahomes plays like the king he is, we win another Super Bowl.
If he doesn’t, we’ve still got a decent chance. The defense has some issues but it still plugs up the run pretty damn well. They’re still a better unit than 2019 and 2020. WBF |
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I think we'll see the offense really shine once they can use Pacheco as the the primary back, and use Hunt for 3rd downs and red zone touches (probably inside the 10). Pacheco gives them more juice/explosiveness/speed, and Hunt can be kept fresh and used as a weapon more strategically. Continuing to integrate Hopkins and Worthy as the season goes on is key, too. Just takes time. |
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In order to get back to and win this next Super Bowl, I think our most major flaws that need to be fixed are: 1) Better OL play across the board 2) Mahomes needs to earn his paycheck 3) Pass rush needs to un**** itself 4) CB2 needs to tighten up 5) We need to figure out this issue with covering TEs and the slot Not too bad overall. Every team in the league has flaws. We are just intimately knowledgeable about our own. |
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If anyone is doom and glooming feeling like we’re a long shot to threepeat, that’s your most likely path of success. |
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Yay. Just what we need, another fan police thread.
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If I'm in the building, I'm preaching 2 things. 1. Continuous Improvement. We don't need a paradigm shift. Can't worry about who's going to be there. Can't count on Hollywood parachuting in and solving all our problems. Execute. That's what it comes down to. 2. Know what we are. Mahomes is the best there has ever been, but there is a lack of explosiveness. Mahomes needs to understand this when he's making reads. Sometimes he needs to hit what's there. Even if it's boring. And the defense needs to understand this. They can't chase sacks or give up lane or gap discipline to chase a play. We don't have the firepower to overcome mistakes, so boring football is on the menu. All the cliche's. Literally one game at a time. |
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STOP DOOMING ABOUT THE BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE |
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Chiefs with the early bye this season, relying on older players at key positions, the wear and tear from extended postseason runs, etc. Need that bye week in the playoffs. |
I learned my lesson last year doubting this team.
I think we have more adversity this year but playoff time, this team and Andy go into another mode. |
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the Niners and the Bills , we were underdogs in both and most had us losing at least ONE of those.
We went 50/50 on those two games. We are doing very well... Yes, it sucks that we won't go undefeated but maybe not having that burden will end up getting us a ring. |
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Well maybe it’s not dooming, but the sarcastic Captain Hindsighting from Sassy Squatch sure is annoying. |
It's not that you lose, it's how.
We handed the game to the Bills as much as they happily took it. Ignoring a Kareem Hunt that repeatedly gashed the defense in favor of calling passes they struggled to block up killed several possessions. Steve Spagnuolo appeared to be the only person on the planet completely unaware that Josh Allen wasn't putting the ball in anyone else's hands on 4th n 2. As frustrating as that game was to watch, it played out just like several wins. Need points? Boom. Got em. Down 2 and defense gets the stop we drive for game winning field goal and the band plays on. Defense hit a speed bump and surrendered 7 when they absolutely couldn't do that, and it sealed the game. We're going to murder Carolina and Vegas, and no better time for back to back get right games. The L forces cleanup. It shows you can't just sleepwalking to wins, and you need to pull your head out of your ass if you want to win against a top contending football team. The LT situation is a problem. Wanya os a guard at best, swing tackle in a pinch. I'd prefer Thuney start playing snaps at LT and move Wanya inside. If Mahomes is protected and moreover TRUSTS that he's protected, he's unstoppable. Happy feet and rushed throws, free shots on him, they're all having a profound effect on his statlines this year. |
We're the worst two-time defending champion, 9-1 team in the league right now.
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There is one thing im really sick of and I think it's coming from a place of ignorance, so I think we can get it stopped.
I'm talking about the Wanya Morris slander. Am I saying he's been the best tackle in the league? No, I'm not, but he is getting ran through the wringer and is getting about 95% of the blame for the pressure Mahomes is seeing and is getting a ton of blame for the offensive problems. I'm saying that a ton more of that blame needs to be placed in the IOL. The guys that are getting there shit shoved in, so that there is never a pocket for Mahomes which forces him to have to bail the pocket. That makes it damn near impossible for Morris and Taylor to do their jobs. Interior pressure has always been the one thing that can derail a Patrick Mahomes led offense. We've spent way too much money on the IOL for them to let so much pressure get through. Enough with the Morris slander! |
The usual suspects.
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Some people like to discuss football instead of just singing kumbuya
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I mean, my God. Look at how quickly he gets beaten here. If Gray didn't immediately find an open spot on the goal line that's a sack. |
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