OLED TV Prices Continue to Fall
 

65 inch Samsung OLED at Best Buy for $1000:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=6536964

65 inches is on the small side (that's what she said), but that's a good deal. I'm sure larger models will follow suit before long.

All screens are dropping. Shit, Walmart is selling 55" sets for $138.

Yeah, it's crazy. I've been watching OLED prices for a while now, waiting for 75-85 inch models to drop to a price I don't mind paying. They're getting close.

TV's are literally the one item in our society that has dropped in price, you can go look at all the graphs and it's literally the one product that has become more affordable.

I'm sure there's an eggheaded economic reason for that, but it's interesting.

Product life cycle.

I wasn’t even aware that Samsung made OLEDs. I thought they had their QLED which was supposed to be close to an OLED. $1000 for that TV is not a bad price at all.

I bought the top of the line 83" LG OLED at best buy for $3000 about 2 years ago for my mancave. It was the best one they had in the store (I already had a Samsung QLED in my family room). About 6 months ago I was working from home in my basement and had the TV on in the background. For the first time ever living in this house, the basement family room breaker flipped (and it's never flipped since). I flipped it back and everything but the TV came back on. Sure enough, the "warranty" ran out ONE WEEK prior to this happening. I had a geek squad guy come by to fix it and he was cool. He told me, "look man, it's either the power board or the full on logic board. If it's the power board, it will be about $300 to fix. If it's the latter, $1500." He then told me if it were him, he'd try swapping out the powerboard first by following a youtube video. I bought a board off of ebay for $90. Had a buddy help me tip the TV over. We swapped it out in about 30 min and it worked like a charm. That being said, I'm still done with LG. I had always been a samsung guy but figured I'd try the LG because all of my techy buddies recommended it. All that being said, those cheap TV's they sell on black friday are specially built with cheap/inferior parts specifically for Black Friday. They get the job done. I bought a 55 inch one 5 years ago and have been using it as my computer monitor ever since.

Went to Best Buy to see on the off chance if they still had one of these on the floor. They did not. However, they had one 55" S95C tucked in between a bunch of current model S90/95D models with a tag on it for $760. I nearly pulled the trigger on that because that is an absolute STUPID deal. Ultimately I didn't end up doing it because of the connection issues that have been reported with the oneconnect box. If you are looking for a TV, might want to closely look at the boxes in the Samsung aisle.

I was going to say - given what happened I would have bet money it was the power board. Depending on the size of the TV and the power draw, they can be pretty cheap to replace. Just replaced on on TCL 75" for $169.

I think it's time to pull the trigger, if I don't find any red flags online:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...?skuId=6595650

ETA: Nope, it's a WOLED panel and is inferior to the S90C.

I saw this and wept. I paid $2000 for our OLED back in summer of 2021. Oh well. Great TV and we love it. :thumb:

Just off the top of my head, I'd say:

low taxes on TVs
No government subsidies
Few government regulations and those largely relate to safety
Cut throat competition

Generally a pretty good recipe to get better quality and lower prices. I mean, look at computers or jeans or many other goods. We've seen this pattern throughout history in products such as air conditioning or household appliances. Adjust for inflation but compare what you can get in a stove today compared to the stove of 1980. World of different in quality and options and yet they are cheaper. Pocket calculators came out in 1972. They cost hundreds of dollars. Now? They're an app that comes with your cell phone.

Anybody remember getting a phone from the old Bell store? You couldn't buy them. You had to rent them. They had about 8 models. FCC loosens regulations and now who even has a landline? Or airline flights. There are undoubtedly still issues with airlines but Carter de-regulated air travel and the cost of flights started dropping like a stone. Airlines are indeed heavily regulated for safety but not for cost of flights and airlines have a lot more flexibility in setting routes and schedules.

Interesting overview on inflation over the last 50 years documenting how prices in real terms have dropped:

https://www.aarp.org/money/budgeting...years-ago.html

It's getting time for me to update our TV but we run ours through a receiver and the receiver is not built for 4K (It's a Denon so it's got great sound but it's also about 15ish years old). So I will have to get not only a new TV but also a receiver. And I don't really want to spent that money on that right now.

I considered an OLED back in 2017-18. $3,000 was too rich, so went with a Samsung QLED 75" Series 7 that's still going.

The TV should have an HDMI or Optical Digital Out which you can run to your Denon. You will only need the one source selected on the receiver, which will make it super easy.

I wish I would have purchased one of the tube HDTVs that Sony made in the early 2000's.

Retro gaming heaven.

I do know that LG is selling their 65” OLED C4 for $1,499 for Black Friday which is still pricey. It appears to be a steep markdown from it’s normally listed for, but I can’t say for sure. I didn’t look at it before Black Friday deals started popping up, so no clue if it’s one of those artificially marked up ones that now show a “deep discount”.

Amazon also has something similar if you want the same thing with Alexa built in (no thanks for me).

OLED TVs are an absolute game changer. Aside from not getting as bright as LED they’re absolutely worth their weight in Gold.

I am considering adding a 42 Inch LG OLED for the bedroom. I have a 65 Sony in the living room and it’s absolutely perfect for Films and football. The motion is so clear that sports on other TVs look very inferior

This is because OLED has an instant refresh rate. There is no ghosting or blur when the camera pans as Mahomes throws the ball. Even the “cheap” OLEDs dominate every other tv.

Can’t go wrong with one until Micro LED is the new standard (no burn in)

I finally pulled the trigger on this one. All the research I've done points to this being a great buy:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-77-c...?skuId=6535930

The only downside I see is WebOS which is a monstrosity. Easily rectified with a Roku, Chromecast, or Apple TV though.

I've had a 65" LG 4K OLED since 2019. Best TV I've ever owned. The contrasts are amazing. Very dark blacks, very bright whites. Perfect for home theater. I highly recommend one if you are on the fence.

Is ghosting a problem with OLED. I was under the impression it is, so I've held off considering 75" of my TV usage is gaming.

LG GUI isn’t bad.

They’re GREAT for gaming.

That’s a kickass TV at a great price point.

I’d buy it if I wasn’t shelling out for a new hot tub.

I didn't pick up an OLED, but got a 55" UHD ROKU TV for our camper for $175. That seemed to be a pretty good deal. It was a Hisense but this isn't a TV we will be using very much so it makes sense here.

Agree to disagree.

I'm sure they look and perform great for gaming but do they suffer from burn-in and stuff like that.

That's what I paid for a 55inch LG OLED a few years back. Still the best TV I've seen or owned.

DIITO! We bought our 65" LG 4K OLED back in 2022 - LOVE IT!

Funny, I bought my 55" LG OLED years ago for the man cave - much cheaper today but I love the TV matched with my PS5 :thumb:

OLED is more susceptible to burn in. If you are worried about burn in, stick with mini LED. Those will still suffer from burn in but it will take a decade and negligence, so unless you are like me and keep shit til it breaks, then you wont see it happen.

Thanks mate!

Learned something in this thread, interesting, thank you.

I hadn't paid much attention to QLED and OLED prior to this thread, but it motivated me to google the difference.

Recently I upgraded the Mrs. TV to a 65" Samsung for $398 at Walmart. A month later it was down to $349.
She really enjoys it but I can't get into it. It's hard to explain but I prefer the picture on my 10 year old 55" Philips.

Neither of them compare with the picture of our old 50 in Plasma Philips I bought 20 years ago IMO but it was $6000.

So I guess the OLED is worth paying about double the price of the QLED sets? Is their picture comparable or better than the plasma sets were?

Hemi to me it boils down to two issues. How bright is the room? How important are black levels. If your room is bright and has a lot of items for reflection, LED might be better. I personally cannot stand blooming, so LED is out.

IMO OLED blows plasma out of the water, and if you keep your eyes open you don't have to spend double on OLED vs. QLED.

The TV I bought for $1500 yesterday is back up to $2000 today, and even that isn't a bad price. A quality 120hz QLED set of the same size wouldn't be a whole lot cheaper.

The best time to buy a TV is typically the week of the Super Bowl. I’m ready to go OLED. I want a 77” but the wife wants a 65”. I’m happy size doesn’t matter to her.

Ok, maybe this is the place to ask.

What's the difference, good and bad, of the different "operating systems" or whatever.

Xumo, Amazon, roku, etc

They're all l pretty "meh", I always prefer to use a gaming console to access apps, especially since a controller is way easier to use than a remote control.

I use an Apple TV. So I don’t use the TV operating system. I can highly recommend, especially if you’re already in the Apple ecosystem.

Personally, I'm not fond of proprietary TV OS'. I personally think LG and Vizio are borderline unusable and Sony and Samsung are so tied in with the rest of their ecosystem.

I prefer something I can use on all of my TVs. After using Amazon, Apple, Chromecast, and Roku I settled on Roku for my needs. I like Apple and Google too. I think Amazon's interface is clunky and slow.

Yea, I would agree with this.

I bought one of the last plasma TV's as they were being discontinued for a good price. I thought I was going to have a mancove/theater room but ended up with a living room with large north facing windows.

The picture quality/price was great for the time, but to watch football without horrible reflections meant closing the shades for daytime games.

When buying a new TV a few years ago, I thought any TV would be fine. But after actually looking at them in the store, I was really surprised that some models were just not that bright and showed a lot of reflections.

I wasn't going to pay thousands of dollars to have to watch TV with blinds closed and sports just aren't delivered at that high of quality. At least the NFL isn't.

Sure, 4k Blu ray in a dark room, different story.

I bought a LG C3 OLED this spring and absolutely love it... Football and all sports are spectacular on it.. Upscaling is really good too... I spent a long time looking and comparing OLED and LED and I couldn't be happier with what I chose..

Thank you. At the risk of sounding stupid, aren't both the QLED and OLED LED systems? What do you recommend?

My wife's viewing area does have north facing windows and is pretty bright. I keep my area pretty dark so maybe that is why I don't like watching hers, the brightness in the room.

I think this article would be a good read for you. For me I am 95% certain I’ll go OLED. I have two Panasonic plasmas and am ready to replace them. I scored an awesome deal on an LG OLED but it was 48” and decided to return it. I regret it, but didn’t want to go down from a 50” in my bedroom.

https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-offic...ed-vs-qled-tv/

Thanks to those who have answered my question.

The post was hurried, so didn't have a chance to explain.

I currently don't stream., so I know zero about it. Our of my 4 tvs, only one is smart, and that's a roku. I don't have wifi. So I'm literally at ground zero of knowledge about it. I have dish for my cable service.

The main reason I ask, is where we camp we have a community area. It used to have cable and we have a projector, but now will have to stream. I'm looking for the best way multiple people can use it if others aren't around. Just looking for something simple everyone can access and it be simple to use. We would mainly use it for sports, college and NFL football, the world series, or movies.

Guess that would include the OS, roku, xumo, etc.

Thanks in advance.

Probably Roku then. It's pretty self explanatory. Some of the OS are way too complicated for their own good.

This. Roku is pretty simple and straightforward.

It’s not the problem that it used to be. You would genuinely have to really try to get that and even then you probably won’t do it.

Most of the examples of burn-in I've seen are from logos and crawls on 24/7 news channels. If you get a 2023 OLED or newer and use a little common sense, it shouldn't be a problem.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/long...es-and-results

Thanks guys. If this old LG ever craps out, I think I will get an OLED set to replace it.

You won't regret getting an OLED.

Thanks guys.

QLED in her better lit room, OLED for yours.

Thank you, very interesting article.

Thank you! I think it's safe to say all 5 of our sets are not OLED as price was the issue with purchasing all of them from Walmart. When I get ready to replace my 55 " Philips I will be looking into OLED. The information is much appreciated.

Great thread.

About 10 days in, and I can say my OLED is the best TV I've owned, by a wide margin. I had read negatives about OLEDs not being bright enough, but I've had to reduce the brightness because it was a little too bright, even in a sunny room.

With prices coming down like they are, I see no reason to buy a "high end" LED unit. Either get an OLED, or go cheap and get an LED from Walmart.

Honestly, I find a lot of the discussions about brightness to be way off base. People often make a decision on a set based on looking at one on a showroom floor. The vast majority of TV retailers take them out of the box and instantly turn the brightness up all the way. It's not really good for the TV and it actually hurts picture quality in a lot of cases. A properly configured TV will be better over the long haul.

Settled on the TCL 75Q650G.

QLED
Adjustable feet
Dolby Vision

Might even go on sale soon, who knows. Gonna want it for postseason.

EDIT - OH, apparently this one is newer and might be better? I think this is the one I watched the review on actually.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-75-...?skuId=6579463

Man TVs are such a scam lol. I paid 2 grand for my 85" two years ago, and that was about the cheapest I could find from a reputable brand. The link Clay posted the 85" is $750.

This is an OLED thread. Take your trash to the other 75” thread.

I’m not sure which tv you bought but they may not be equal. I have a 10 year old plasma that looks better than most new LED TVs on the market.

We've got a bright main level of the house. I've got a TV mounted that during middle of the day, the light makes dark scenes hard to see. Couldn't tell you what type of TV other than brand.

Bought a 65" TV from Walmart because I got Sunday ticket so that I could set up several to watch multiple games. Picture is soooo much better in the living room than the mounted one, so I'm going to be replacing it eventually.

I'm amazed anyone is watching TV in a room with sunlight streaming through the windows. Wife must have set that up. LMAO

My living room has the shades drawn at all times.

It's only an issue with dark scenes.

I don't blame you. You wouldn't want any of "those people" scoping out your belongings.

LMAO

He skeered?

I always have it dark when I watch TV. I hate glare.

Even if there's no glare it distracts focus from the entertainment. Movie theaters are DARK. FOR A REASON.

A dented Nissan Murano in the driveway is an excellent theft deterrent. Hell I keep the doors on that sucker unlocked.

Just pulled the trigger on a hot tub.

Might have 77” OLED $$ left over.

His mom is already on the hook for the TV, Transportation and Indian Buffet.

Congrats on the hot tub. Best time of year for them.

Thanks.

6 person, saltwater, 2 Motojets.

I hope you enjoy your hot tub. Ours has been more trouble than it's worth.

Been wanting a hot tub, but then I remember my parents had one and my dad hated how much time he had to put into it.

The maintenance actually isn't too bad with ours. It just hasn't survived a single winter despite taking all the necessary and recommended precautions.

Pipe burst the first year. Pump blew a seal and started leaking after the 2nd.

What brand??

Hotspring. And we bought it from a very reputable dealer, too.

I don't remember all the issues he had - this was from like mid 80's through early 90's when I was young - I just remember him complaining about it all the time.

I don't know who Pump is, but I'll bet the seal is happy.

Ugh.

One of my friends said our local dealer was a dick to deal with over a faulty cover issue.