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RunKC 11-10-2024 03:22 PM

We need to have a conversation about Carson Steele
 
Why on Earth is he on the field and not Perine? The guy deservedly got screamed at by Mahomes today bc he kept missing blocks.

Kingsley was bad but my God was Steele ****ing horrific. Broncos kept A gap bltizing and Steele kept misreading it.

How the hell did this guy not even attempt to chip multiple times when he was clearly instructed to by the playcall?

Get him out Andy. He’s gonna get Patrick hurt

rydogg58 11-10-2024 03:23 PM

Bro, he's got a crocodile though. ****ing Pacheco can't come back quick enough.

Indian Chief 11-10-2024 03:24 PM

It was a nice story, but yeah, I can't defend his play this season. Between the fumbles and the missed blocks he's been bad.

Gary Cooper 11-10-2024 03:26 PM

Is CEH going to play this year?

BWillie 11-10-2024 03:27 PM

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-King- 11-10-2024 03:27 PM

Yeah when someone figures out why Perines usage is what it is please tell me cause it makes zero ****ing sense.

Titty Meat 11-10-2024 03:27 PM

He sucks but posters on here get butthurt if you say that

Megatron96 11-10-2024 03:28 PM

He only carried the ball twice. Don't think he got that many snaps total. Don't know what there is to talk about.

Iowanian 11-10-2024 03:29 PM

He’s holding a spot.

Pacheco will be back soon and team punishment will be toting the rock.

DRM08 11-10-2024 03:29 PM

At one point when Steele returned that kickoff, I was expecting a fumble. Thankfully he held on to it. But in a close game, it was a nervous moment.

Sassy Squatch 11-10-2024 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17797918)
He only carried the ball twice. Don't think he got that many snaps total. Don't know what there is to talk about.

There's a reason for that. He kept ****ing up his blocking assignments and got the hook.

KCJake 11-10-2024 03:32 PM

Don’t really care about this guy one way or another but he does seem to get 6+ yards on every carry

TLO 11-10-2024 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 17797893)
It was a nice story, but yeah, I can't defend his play this season. Between the fumbles and the missed blocks he's been bad.

Yip.

He's pretty much a special teams/practice squad player. He doesn't deserve any meaningful carries.

Hunt has been a blessing for this team.

Megatron96 11-10-2024 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17797928)
There's a reason for that. He kept ****ing up his blocking assignments and got the hook.



I mean, he was basically insignificant today. I'd be more interested in talking about Nagy/Andy not playing Perine more. Or why we weren't running more quick hitters. Or why we didn't target DHop more than 5 times. Or just about anything other than our RB3.

smithandrew051 11-10-2024 03:33 PM

Worse than a JAG

RunKC 11-10-2024 03:34 PM

Kingsley struggled badly but that big hit on Patrick in the 2nd half was on Steele. There’s a reason Mahomes screamed at him.

DE was a speed rusher that lined up so far outside he could have been in the damn slot. Any LT couldn’t cover that angle.

I watched that play again and pre-snap Mahomes made a call for Steele to chip and he just didn’t. And Mahomes got smoked bc of it.

He needs to be benched.

MVChiefFan 11-10-2024 03:36 PM

I can’t wait for Pacheco to get back. He and Hunt will be a great combo!

BigCatDaddy 11-10-2024 03:36 PM

Hope Pacheco is back in 2 weeks and Carson is done.

notorious 11-10-2024 03:37 PM

I am not a fan.

He's a liability.

jerryaldini 11-10-2024 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17797937)
Don’t really care about this guy one way or another but he does seem to get 6+ yards on every carry

He's just a straight ahead runner. Averaging 3.4 ypc. Long of 9. Sadly preseason had to end for him.

Rainbarrel 11-10-2024 03:42 PM

He'll collect Practice Squad pay around the league a few years. That's a win

jerryaldini 11-10-2024 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17797889)
Bro, he's got a crocodile though. ****ing Pacheco can't come back quick enough.

He's getting an eco fridge to sustain the quirkiness. Croc thing is played out.

Bowser 11-10-2024 03:46 PM

He makes me want to see CEH out there when Hunt isn't.

At least CEH knows his pass pro assignments.

FloridaMan88 11-10-2024 03:46 PM

He’s an undrafted free agent for a reason.

Gary Cooper 11-10-2024 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17798017)
He’s an undrafted free agent for a reason.

That's what I was going to say.

We have higher picks like Kingsley and Worthy struggling. RB is an easier position but the guy was undrafted. He's already exceeded expectations by making the roster and starting a few games.

BlackHelicopters 11-10-2024 03:48 PM

Shouldn’t see meaningful snaps.

dannybcaitlyn 11-10-2024 03:50 PM

He’s a rookie making mistakes like the other rookies Kingsley and Worthy.

Jewish Rabbi 11-10-2024 03:52 PM

I wish his crocodile would eat him!!!

FloridaMan88 11-10-2024 03:52 PM

MEH should be active for the Buffalo game.

He’s been back practicing for over a month now… and he was not out with a physical injury.

It’s time.

seamonster 11-10-2024 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 17798040)
He’s a rookie making mistakes like the other rookies Kingsley and Worthy.

And unlike those wack ass players he's actually serving a purpose (6 yard gains). Worthy is like Mecole Hardman yet smaller. The left tackle is a terrifying abomination.

4th and Long 11-10-2024 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17797918)
He only carried the ball twice. Don't think he got that many snaps total. Don't know what there is to talk about.

Exactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17797889)
Bro, he's got a crocodile though.

and there's that.

https://images4.imagebam.com/fc/ed/3f/MEXCFGL_o.jpg

RunKC 11-10-2024 04:00 PM

Here’s the play Mahomes screamed at Steele. Mahomes sees their speed rusher lined up extremely far outside. He know Kingsley as well as no LT can get that angle so he motions to have Steele come to the left to block the DE.

Steele instead runs to the flat to the other side of the field in the flat and gets Mahomes killed.

Inexcusable

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UChieffyBugger 11-10-2024 04:03 PM

He's been playing full back and doing a lot of lead blocking. Especially in the redzone for Hunt. He had a bad game yes but let's not go over the top. Rookies make mistakes. It happens.

4th and Long 11-10-2024 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17798094)
Here’s the play Mahomes screamed at Steele. Mahomes sees their speed rusher lined up extremely far outside. He know Kingsley as well as no LT can get that angle so he motions to have Steele come to the left to block the DE.

Steele instead runs to the flat to the other side of the field in the flat and gets Mahomes killed.

Inexcusable

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Rookies make mistakes. It happens. We're 9-0. Enjoy the ride.

carcosa 11-10-2024 04:10 PM

I hate that cracker!!!

Jewish Rabbi 11-10-2024 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17798104)
He's been playing full back and doing a lot of lead blocking. Especially in the redzone for Hunt. He had a bad game yes but let's not go over the top. Rookies make mistakes. It happens.

Okay if you like him I know he should be cut!!!

Buehler445 11-10-2024 04:49 PM

I’ve been saying all year Perine needs all of Steeles and some of Kareem’s snaps.

Bump 11-10-2024 05:16 PM

I'll never learn to not get excited over impressive preseason play and training camp darlings.

There's still hope he could develop into an acceptable fullback as long as he learns how the pass block properly and know what Mahomes wants him to do. Or maybe he won't be on the team next year

pugsnotdrugs19 11-10-2024 05:17 PM

He’s awful. Should be exclusively used on STs.

If not for that I would be dressing Clyde.

-King- 11-10-2024 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17798116)
Rookies make mistakes. It happens. We're 9-0. Enjoy the ride.

But we have another RB that's good at pass blocking and pass catching. Why doesn't he get the run Steele gets?

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2024 05:20 PM

He's pretty bad. Not sure what folks were expecting, though, with a UDFA rookie fullback. Perine is fine (albeit otherworldly SLOW), but we need a good speed back in the worst way, IMO.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2024 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17797911)
He sucks but posters on here get butthurt if you say that

Yuuuuuup.

threebag 11-10-2024 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17797903)
Is CEH going to play this year?

Let’s ****ing hope not.

Megatron96 11-10-2024 05:55 PM

I mean, he's a rook. And wasn't he undrafted? And now he's trying to get comfortable in the most complicated offense in the league? Just exactly what were some of you expecting in just half a season? Sausage 2.0? Seems kind of overblown to throw him under the bus halfway through his first season.

493rd 11-10-2024 05:56 PM

No conversation needed. The dude is a practice squad player who’s not likely to be anything more.

R Clark 11-10-2024 06:05 PM

Give him a chance he’s a rookie , he picks up tough yards and ain’t a bad lead blocker. He will get it figured out sooner or later . He ain’t the only one who had a bad game , room for plenty of blame besides a rookie full back damn

threebag 11-10-2024 06:51 PM

Back up off his nuts. We have more worthless veterans on the team that need the heat before Alligator Boy

scho63 11-10-2024 08:03 PM

It is an experiment that has not produced the desired results.

Not sure changing the formula will make a difference.

TEX 11-10-2024 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag (Post 17798420)
Let’s ****ing hope not.

Would rather he take hits away from Hunt.

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2024 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag (Post 17798594)
Back up off his nuts. We have more worthless veterans on the team that need the heat before Alligator Boy

Maybe, but him choosing to be useless in pass pro was a pretty bad look.

Bob Dole 11-10-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17798842)
Maybe, but him choosing to be useless in pass pro was a pretty bad look.

OMG a rookie with limited playing time made a mistake! CUT HIM NOW!!!

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2024 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 17798847)
OMG a rookie with limited playing time made a mistake! CUT HIM NOW!!!

I don't want to cut him, as I believe he'll continue to get much better and be an asset for the team. But I'm also nowhere near stupid enough to think he made a single mistake.

lewdog 11-10-2024 08:40 PM

3.4 YPC let's go!!!!!!

Kman34 11-10-2024 09:37 PM

Is this the same conversation we had about Kelce and Bolton???

T-post Tom 11-10-2024 09:41 PM

Pepto-Bismol makes my poop black.

petegz28 11-10-2024 09:42 PM

He's a ****ing rookie....

Bump 11-10-2024 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17798851)
I don't want to cut him, as I believe he'll continue to get much better and be an asset for the team. But I'm also nowhere near stupid enough to think he made a single mistake.

he kinda did make a mistake tho...

let's not kid ourselves

Titty Meat 11-10-2024 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17798855)
3.4 YPC let's go!!!!!!

He's a white running back with a pet alligator of course CP loves him

RunKC 11-18-2024 08:40 PM

He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TheGuardian 11-18-2024 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BRO WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Mecca 11-18-2024 08:45 PM

Steele can't play in obvious pass downs anymore.

Bowser 11-18-2024 08:53 PM

yikes

tredadda 11-18-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like what was he even looking at? He doubled a guy that Taylor had control of. Amazing how bad that was. Maybe drop him to the PS and resign McKinnon for blocking if nothing else.

Bowser 11-18-2024 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17814145)
Steele can't play in obvious pass downs anymore.

I'm a little shocked that Mahomes has apparently not stormed into Reid and/or Nagy's office and demanded them to deactivate him for the rest of the season.

FloridaMan88 11-18-2024 09:03 PM

Where the hell is MEHHH?

He can at least pass block.

Marcellus 11-18-2024 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17814175)
Where the hell is MEHHH?

He can at least pass block.

Doesn’t matter Pacheco is back this week.

Pitt Gorilla 11-18-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's been awful in pass pro the entire season.

-King- 11-18-2024 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Whoa wtf? It looks like he didn't even see him. That's not even a failed block, it looks like he didn't even know he had someone to block. Meanwhile Perine who is known as a pass blocker is on the sideline probably wondering wtf is going on .

Gary Cooper 11-18-2024 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17814175)
Where the hell is MEHHH?

He can at least pass block.

CEH has become our Syd Barrett.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2024 09:48 PM

It's good we're finding this out in Week 11.

No issues in the postseason.

RealSNR 11-18-2024 10:19 PM

Pacheco will be back. He'll take some of Hunt's carries. We'll use Hunt in short yardage 3rd down. Perine will also get 3rd down snaps.

Steele can ride the pine.

kcbubb 11-18-2024 11:18 PM

I think CEH is having mental health issues. CEH is not good anyway. Andy and the chiefs are trying to take care of him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t see the field this year.

Titty Meat 11-18-2024 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17814242)
It's good we're finding this out in Week 11.

No issues in the postseason.

Alot of have said all season he sucks

Mecca 11-18-2024 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17814328)
I think CEH is having mental health issues. CEH is not good anyway. Andy and the chiefs are trying to take care of him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t see the field this year.

He did an interview on the pivot podcast about all his issues told the story etc...he says he's fine and good to go.

FloridaMan88 11-18-2024 11:21 PM

Steele only does one thing well… run straight ahead.

And even with that you have to worry about his fumbling issues.

carcosa 11-18-2024 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

¡Vete, gringo!

Buehler445 11-19-2024 01:00 AM

I have no clue why he's getting snaps. Literally everything he does except have great hair, I like Perine better. I dunno, does Steele do punt coverage? Maybe punt coverage.

I think Perine should be shouldering some of the load from Hunt too.

Maybe I'm just too high on Perine, but I don't think I'm too low on Steele. Doesn't catch the ball especially well, isn't fast, and doesn't run any harder than Perine, just does so with less vision.

xztop123 11-19-2024 03:56 AM

I’ve talked about this for years. It’s like we’re using regular season games to scout players.

His inability to pick up pass protection should have been evident in scrimmages

crispystl 11-19-2024 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17814133)
He is so awful in pass pro my God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Xavier Worthy failed to keep his feet in bounds, Carson Steele blown Pass Protection kills 2nd down.<br><br>Bills send an overload with Cov 1 man behind it, it is picked up well except Steele whiffs on the edge. Juju on the drag probably gets completed if Mahomes has time. <a href="https://t.co/82PwcBrmNu">pic.twitter.com/82PwcBrmNu</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1858585600661602419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I noticed that live and couldn't believe wtf I was seeing LOL. So it was real!

SHOWTIME 11-19-2024 06:23 AM

Hopefully with Pacheco back on Sunday this Carson Steele experiment will end.


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