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SHOWTIME 10-22-2024 12:25 PM

Cooper Kupp reportedly on the trade block
 
https://x.com/nflrums/status/1848779771993276520?s=61

notorious 10-22-2024 12:27 PM

Jizz.

Probably can't afford him.

Kman34 10-22-2024 12:28 PM

They want a 2nd round pick.. Don’t see it happening.. He can’t stay healthy either..

Direckshun 10-22-2024 12:29 PM

I make it happen.

I don't know what compensation I'd give up for him, but the Chiefs can make history and go three straight.

Three. Straight.

Next year, you can sign Brown back cheap, Rice will eventually rejoin the team, Worthy will have another year, and you still have one last year of that killer 2022 draft class in its entirety.

You go get it done, and I bet it doesn't cost you in 2025.

notorious 10-22-2024 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17758697)
They want a 2nd round pick.. Don’t see it happening.. He can’t stay healthy either..

He'd fit right in.

Warpaint69 10-22-2024 12:30 PM

4 high ankle sprains in 2 seasons. 2 of the were grade 3 one requiring surgery in 2022 and the other 2 were grade 1. Seems he has ankle problems. A 2nd is pretty high for a 31 year old oft injured WR.

wazu 10-22-2024 12:33 PM

This is what makes it an option.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DMRussini</a>, not only are the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a> exploring trades for WR Cooper Kupp, but they&#39;re willing to retain salary to purchase a potential 2nd Rd Pick as well.<br><br>Kupp&#39;s Contract<br>2024: $9.1M (gtd)<br>2025: $20M ($5M gtd)<br>2026: $19.85M (non-gtd</p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1848783984953577808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 10-22-2024 12:33 PM

The game he played this year he looked liked a complete badass, lets see how he looks Thursday because of Cooper Kupp is even 75% of what he once was you aren't stopping this team.

TEX 10-22-2024 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17758697)
They want a 2nd round pick.. Don’t see it happening.. He can’t stay healthy either..

Yep. Id pass.

RunKC 10-22-2024 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17758715)
The game he played this year he looked liked a complete badass, lets see how he looks Thursday because of Cooper Kupp is even 75% of what he once was you aren't stopping this team.

Cool. Still not sending a 2nd rd pick. Day 3 pick max. He’s 31

Mike in SW-MO 10-22-2024 12:43 PM

This would move the needle. Old & injured a lot but amazing receiver when healthy.

Can you imagine Kelce, Ju-Ju, & Kupp on the scramble drill?

DRM08 10-22-2024 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17758715)
The game he played this year he looked liked a complete badass, lets see how he looks Thursday because of Cooper Kupp is even 75% of what he once was you aren't stopping this team.

Can’t stay on the field, so you get 0% of him.

Balto 10-22-2024 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17758742)
Cool. Still not sending a 2nd rd pick. Day 3 pick max. He’s 31

Hmmm a 2nd for Kupp+Robinson?

Mr_Tomahawk 10-22-2024 12:44 PM

No. We have enough injured WRs, already.

BWillie 10-22-2024 12:48 PM

Not healthy enough. I would try to get the other options.

louie aguiar 10-22-2024 12:50 PM

Cooper Kupp is 31 and always injured - he hasn’t played a full season since 2021. If he can stay healthy he’s still great but I don’t have confidence that he can do that at this point in his career.

Marcellus 10-22-2024 12:52 PM

If we don't get him he is a brokedick not worth the price.

If we do get him its the missing piece to a threepeat!

O.city 10-22-2024 12:52 PM

On the plus side, he's very intelligent so him getting up to speed would happen quick.

But he's 31 and hurt.

RealSNR 10-22-2024 12:57 PM

He’s already 31? Did he get his first NFL contract when he signed up for ****ing AARP?

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2024 12:57 PM

Just playing devils advocate because the injury problems concern me. But I feel like the chiefs are better able to take this kind of injury risk on than others. Because we can win lots of games without him but we hit the jackpot if he can help us in big games.

It does depend on price. I really don’t care as much about draft pick if we get a way way better version of Sammy Watkins the next few years. But I don’t want to pay full price for this kind of availability.

I know he’s had a number of injuries but the rams seriously abused him. He had 21 targets in his last game against Detroit. I mean.. seriously holy shit. Use him sparingly this year, use him heavy in the playoffs, and next year you can pull him way back when rashee comes back.

Womble 10-22-2024 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17758697)
They want a 2nd round pick.. Don’t see it happening.. He can’t stay healthy either..

Skyy Moore was a second round pick. A straight swap sounds fair. Make it happen Verch!!

ForeverIowan 10-22-2024 01:00 PM

His cap number next year is just shy of $30M. Just not gonna happen. Love him as a player but just a no go at that number.

Marcellus 10-22-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17758812)
His cap number next year is just shy of $30M. Just not gonna happen. Love him as a player but just a no go at that number.

You would have to work out a restructure which is doable.

Mr. Plow 10-22-2024 01:01 PM

I wouldn't vouch for validity of this, just posting for discussion.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨BREAKING: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a> are open to TRADING All-Pro receiver Cooper Kupp, NY Times first reports. <br><br>Multiple teams have recently made calls regarding Kupp. <br><br>He has been connected to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a>. <br><br>LA seems open to taking on salary to facilitate a trade. <a href="https://t.co/mKi66veMFU">pic.twitter.com/mKi66veMFU</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1848771622087627073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 10-22-2024 01:02 PM

I believe his cap hit here would be like 20 mil, with 5 mil guaranteed.

KC_Connection 10-22-2024 01:02 PM

Would be stunned if Veach gave up a major draft asset for a guy who can't stay on the field.

DRM08 10-22-2024 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17758816)
I believe his cap hit here would be like 20 mil, with 5 mil guaranteed.

Way too expensive.

alpha_omega 10-22-2024 01:11 PM

Broken.

BleedingRed 10-22-2024 01:12 PM

Just trade for Tyreek if we are going to end up paying alot of that

DaFace 10-22-2024 01:14 PM

Only way I'd consider a 2nd if it's tied to some serious incentives. Like, it's a 4th that becomes a 3rd if he's active for >50% of our remaining games and a 2nd if he plays in the Super Bowl.

BlackHelicopters 10-22-2024 01:15 PM

No. Thank you.

O.city 10-22-2024 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17758859)
Only way I'd consider a 2nd if it's tied to some serious incentives. Like, it's a 4th that becomes a 3rd if he's active for >50% of our remaining games and a 2nd if he plays in the Super Bowl.

I was trying to think up a post on this.but........yeah this.

If they do it that way...and pay alot of the $ sure.

O.city 10-22-2024 01:18 PM

He plays that big power slot role.....we would have a need there.

tredadda 10-22-2024 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17758815)
I wouldn't vouch for validity of this, just posting for discussion.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨BREAKING: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a> are open to TRADING All-Pro receiver Cooper Kupp, NY Times first reports. <br><br>Multiple teams have recently made calls regarding Kupp. <br><br>He has been connected to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a>. <br><br>LA seems open to taking on salary to facilitate a trade. <a href="https://t.co/mKi66veMFU">pic.twitter.com/mKi66veMFU</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1848771622087627073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is MLFootball ever correct on anything?

Bump 10-22-2024 01:22 PM

we just need 690 posts in this thread to make this happen

Warpaint69 10-22-2024 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17758870)
When he isn’t injured he plays that big power slot role.....we would have a need there.

fixed it for you

ljmhawk 10-22-2024 01:30 PM

You guys are crazy to not want a cooper Kupp if he’s healthy and not costing a ton. He has amazing route running and catches everything. He would make an immediate impact.

Mr. Plow 10-22-2024 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17758875)
Is MLFootball ever correct on anything?

I don't pay close enough attention to them to know.

Balto 10-22-2024 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17758816)
I believe his cap hit here would be like 20 mil, with 5 mil guaranteed.

that's NEXT years. This year would be about $7.5M and even less if Rams keep some salary

htismaqe 10-22-2024 01:35 PM

We are in this position because of injuries. So we are going to take a 2nd round pick for a guy that hasn't been able to stay healthy for almost 3 full years? :facepalm:

FloridaMan88 10-22-2024 01:36 PM

Rams about to blow it all up?

Questionable source though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOURCES: The Vikings and Rams are in serious trade talks for Matthew Stafford. <br><br>Minnesota made a push to trade for Stafford this offseason but are now revisiting with the idea that he can be the piece to help them win a Super Bowl this season. <a href="https://t.co/K9fHC0QPg7">pic.twitter.com/K9fHC0QPg7</a></p>&mdash; JACK SETTLEMAN (@jacksettleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacksettleman/status/1848785899263229968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 10-22-2024 01:38 PM

The Vikings, who just spent a first on a QB, are gonna trade a bunch for a QB.

I have alot of dumb trade ideas, but shit guys.

New World Order 10-22-2024 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17758905)
Rams about to blow it all up?

Questionable source though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOURCES: The Vikings and Rams are in serious trade talks for Matthew Stafford. <br><br>Minnesota made a push to trade for Stafford this offseason but are now revisiting with the idea that he can be the piece to help them win a Super Bowl this season. <a href="https://t.co/K9fHC0QPg7">pic.twitter.com/K9fHC0QPg7</a></p>&mdash; JACK SETTLEMAN (@jacksettleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacksettleman/status/1848785899263229968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But why?

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 01:41 PM

They giving up on Darnold?

smithandrew051 10-22-2024 01:42 PM

I wouldn’t pull the trigger on this one because of the injuries.

That said, if you’re willing to part with the Titans third then our second shouldn’t stop you. Those picks will be within 10 slots of each other.

If you’d give that third, then you could instead give our second and get like a 5th rounder back.

Mescalito345 10-22-2024 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17758852)
Just trade for Tyreek if we are going to end up paying alot of that

Most definitely, the best idea is to trade for Tyreek. But Kupp would be a good backup plan.

carcosa 10-22-2024 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17758905)
Rams about to blow it all up?

Questionable source though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOURCES: The Vikings and Rams are in serious trade talks for Matthew Stafford. <br><br>Minnesota made a push to trade for Stafford this offseason but are now revisiting with the idea that he can be the piece to help them win a Super Bowl this season. <a href="https://t.co/K9fHC0QPg7">pic.twitter.com/K9fHC0QPg7</a></p>&mdash; JACK SETTLEMAN (@jacksettleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacksettleman/status/1848785899263229968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If we can't trust verified X.com user Jack Settleman, who can we trust???

Mescalito345 10-22-2024 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17758865)
I was trying to think up a post on this.but........yeah this.

If they do it that way...and pay alot of the $ sure.

Why are draft picks so overrated? Trading a first-round pick for Kupp would be a great move.

O.city 10-22-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758931)
Why are draft picks so overrated? Trading a first-round pick for Kupp would be a great move.

A first round pick brings an (ideally) good player, but moreso, for 5 cheap years.

staylor26 10-22-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758931)
Why are draft picks so overrated? Trading a first-round pick for Kupp would be a great move.

Dumb as ****.

O.city 10-22-2024 01:58 PM

Our 4th that becomes a 3rd (or a second) based on incentives. Is that possible?

I also don't understand why these teams are so concerned with not trading shit. Like if I'm the Panthers I'd be unloading anything that's not tied down.

I'd go tell my fans, "They drafted a midget QB who isn't good, we're gonna tear this down to the studs and build it up".

Mescalito345 10-22-2024 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17758936)
A first round pick brings an (ideally) good player, but moreso, for 5 cheap years.

But isn't 2024-25 much more important than 2026 or 2027?

htismaqe 10-22-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758965)
But isn't 2024-25 much more important than 2026 or 2027?

It doesn't matter. We dont need another walking injury. We need someone who can play.

KC Shox 10-22-2024 02:10 PM

Cooper? Pfffft! Dude is the walking wounded. He can’t be trusted or relied upon to remain healthy. Get him only if the Rams pay his salary and it costs us a 7th rounder.

wazu 10-22-2024 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758965)
But isn't 2024-25 much more important than 2026 or 2027?

It's a little more important. But this isn't our last year to be contenders. It's not even close. We've probably got the better part of another decade with Patrick Mahomes as our quarterback. We need to be continually reloading through the draft. Kupp is not worth a first round pick. I could get on board with Pick 64 but that's it.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17758916)
They giving up on Darnold?




I don’t think they’re giving up on him. I think they’re probably just being very realistic about Sam. Right now, the Vikings are probably a lock for the playoffs as currently constructed. But if you’re being realistic about Darnold, and his stats lines appear to back this up, you know Sam is a limited QB that probably won’t rise to the level needed to win a SB.

Stanford not only is just a much better QB in all physical respects, he’s also been there. Stafford makes them serious SB contenders. They see an opportunity to win it all right now.

dlphg9 10-22-2024 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17758901)
We are in this position because of injuries. So we are going to take a 2nd round pick for a guy that hasn't been able to stay healthy for almost 3 full years? :facepalm:

Yeah, I have no clue why anyone thinks this would be close to a smart idea. The guy hasn't been healthy in several years and he's 31. It's not like guys start getting healthier after they turn 30.

This is just stupid as shit.

Balto 10-22-2024 02:18 PM

Rams don't have a 2nd round pick...guessing thats why they asked haha.

Lets trade them '25 1st, '26 1st and '25 2nd FOR Rams '25 1st and Kupp.

Get our top 10 LT!

Gravedigger 10-22-2024 02:22 PM

We don’t need more injuries, we need guarantees.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 02:23 PM

I would've been 100% on board a few seasons ago. But McVay has been overusing him for years now, which is why he has those injury issues. I mean, in his last full season, Kupp was targeted nearly 200 times, fcs. Of course, Andy wouldn't target him anywhere near 15+ times a game, but the damage appears to have been done at this point.


Bottom line, there's a lot of potential reward in acquiring Kupp, but there's also a ton of risk.

RealSNR 10-22-2024 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758965)
But isn't 2024-25 much more important than 2026 or 2027?


Would you rather have a 3peat or Pat cracking 7 SBs

In this case, it’s quantity over quality.

New World Order 10-22-2024 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17759030)
Would you rather have a 3peat or Pat cracking 7 SBs

In this case, it’s quantity over quality.

3peat and 5 sbs

Or no three peat and 7 sbs?

fadeaway 10-22-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17759033)
3peat and 5 sbs

Or no three peat and 7 sbs?

Foursome and 8 Super Bowls

RealSNR 10-22-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17759033)
3peat and 5 sbs

Or no three peat and 7 sbs?


I take the 7.

Pat would meet the mark and do it with no cheating scandals.

Thus, the actual GOAT

PatMahomesIsGod 10-22-2024 02:45 PM

DRob for a 6th is fine, thanks.

MahomesMagic 10-22-2024 02:45 PM

Offer the 2nd 3rd with the ability to go to a 2 if they pay salary and Kupp is healthy in the SB.

FloridaMan88 10-22-2024 02:48 PM

Anyone who was against trading for Cooper or Hopkins because they are over 30… Kupp is 31.

New World Order 10-22-2024 02:51 PM

2nd for a 31 year-old with that contract is way too much

WhawhaWhat 10-22-2024 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17759046)
Offer the 2nd 3rd with the ability to go to a 2 if they pay salary and Kupp is healthy in the SB.

Yeah that Titans 3rd that they got for Sneed should be pretty high in the 3rd round. Not too far from the Chiefs 2nd round pick at the bottom of the round.

RunKC 10-22-2024 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17759052)
Anyone who was against trading for Cooper or Hopkins because they are over 30… Kupp is 31.

And has been an absolute broke dick for years now. Here’s a hint: injuries don’t get better for players as they age

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the low low price of a 2nd round, you can have 31-year old Cooper Kupp with 5 ankle sprains since Oct 2022. 2 of them being high ankle sprains and 1 requiring a tightrope procedure. And if you act now, the Rams will throw in eating &quot;some&quot; of their attempted salary cap dump.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1848801659121447165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

crayzkirk 10-22-2024 03:00 PM

Throw in Puka and the Chiefs will give you Skyy. That's your 2nd rounder.

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17759069)
And has been an absolute broke dick for years now. Here’s a hint: injuries don’t get better for players as they age

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the low low price of a 2nd round, you can have 31-year old Cooper Kupp with 5 ankle sprains since Oct 2022. 2 of them being high ankle sprains and 1 requiring a tightrope procedure. And if you act now, the Rams will throw in eating &quot;some&quot; of their attempted salary cap dump.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1848801659121447165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Megatron96 10-22-2024 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17759030)
Would you rather have a 3peat or Pat cracking 7 SBs

In this case, it’s quantity over quality.



Not arguing, but I just don't understand why it's an either or situation. If Veach screws up the cap for the next couple season, why does that mean we can't see 6/7/8 SBs down the road? It would just be delaying the inevitable a couple three season, imo, not eliminating them entirely forever.


YMMV.

Marcellus 10-22-2024 03:08 PM

Nobody is giving them a 2nd round pick for Kupp at this point unless they are eating the whole contract and I don't think that's possible.

scho63 10-22-2024 03:10 PM

A one year rental is fine. Too many injuries for long term commitment.

Fishels 10-22-2024 03:15 PM

The whole problem this team has is solely due to injuries. It doesn’t make sense imo

Raiderhater 10-22-2024 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17758901)
We are in this position because of injuries. So we are going to take a 2nd round pick for a guy that hasn't been able to stay healthy for almost 3 full years? :facepalm:

Mind bottling, isn’t?

Iowanian 10-22-2024 03:36 PM

Tell you what rams….we will take him off your hands if you eat the guaranteed money and we will SWAP you 2nd round picks…..and we can swap thirds if that sweetness the pot for you

RealSNR 10-22-2024 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17759091)
Not arguing, but I just don't understand why it's an either or situation. If Veach screws up the cap for the next couple season, why does that mean we can't see 6/7/8 SBs down the road? It would just be delaying the inevitable a couple three season, imo, not eliminating them entirely forever.


YMMV.


The original topic line was why 1sts are all that important when you’re going for a 3peat.

Not against trading our 1st round pick but it better goddamn get us somebody who will play for a little longer than the time Kupp has left in this league

duncan_idaho 10-22-2024 03:54 PM

The reoccurring ankle injuries give you pause for sure.

I wouldn’t be a hard yes or no on anything either Kupp.

I don’t think it is smart to dismiss it out of hand or say to do it no matter what. With his injury history, and deal is probably going to involve/include conditional picks based on playing time or performance milestones.


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