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OnTheWarpath15 10-14-2024 01:11 PM

Rashee: See you in 10-12 months
 
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...y-injured-knee

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Rashee Rice had posterolateral corner surgery on his injured right knee, Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid said on Monday.

The timeframe for Rice's return is similar to if he had reconstructive ACL surgery, Reid said. Ten to 12 months is generally considered a realistic return time after ACL surgery.

"It takes a while for that to come back,'' Reid said. "He'll get into his rehab and get rolling on that as we go here.''

Rice was injured in a Week 4 game against the Los Angeles Chargers when quarterback Patrick Mahomes accidentally collided with his knee while the two were chasing a fumble that followed an interception.

Rice entered the Week 4 games leading the NFL in receptions with 24. He was second in yards with 288.

carcosa 10-14-2024 01:13 PM

Wtf. I was led to believe this was more of a 4-6 month thing...

chiefzilla1501 10-14-2024 01:15 PM

Interesting. I know nobody wants to bring the suspension thing up. But if (and it’s an if) he is to be suspended it makes more sense from the nfls standpoint to suspend him beginning of next year. By then it will have played out in court and the nfl doesn’t look like they’re dodging him missing games by suspending him this season for games where he’s not available to play. All the while the chiefs can be more conservative about his return timeline. The return timeline actually makes this scenario not the worst in the world

Bearcat 10-14-2024 01:15 PM

****. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17744924)
Wtf. I was led to believe this was more of a 4-6 month thing...

Can't trust shit on social media these days with a million twitter docs watching a replay and acting like that's enough for a detailed diagnosis and treatment plan.

Gary Cooper 10-14-2024 01:19 PM

The fourpeat will be more difficult without him.

Womble 10-14-2024 01:19 PM

Time to get his legal shit out of the way pronto then.

DRM08 10-14-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17744927)
Interesting. I know nobody wants to bring the suspension thing up. But if (and it’s an if) he is to be suspended it makes more sense from the nfls standpoint to suspend him beginning of next year. By then it will have played out in court and the nfl doesn’t look like they’re dodging him missing games by suspending him this season for games where he’s not available to play. All the while the chiefs can be more conservative about his return timeline. The return timeline actually makes this scenario not the worst in the world

It will suck if the NFL waits until he is healthy to slap the suspension on him. That would mean he's potentially gone until Week 10 or later of the 2025 season.

Marcellus 10-14-2024 01:24 PM

I wouldn't read too much into that. "Similar" means what exactly? We knew he want going to be back this year already.

DaFace 10-14-2024 01:25 PM

To be fair, Andy didn't put a timeline on it - that's Teicher's doing. But yeah, it's probably best to move on this year and plan to have him back next.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-14-2024 01:31 PM

God damnit.

Hard to be mad at Patrick for anything after all he's done for us but the blame for this is squarely on him.

TinyEvel 10-14-2024 01:33 PM

Veach, it’s your move.

FloridaMan88 10-14-2024 01:34 PM

Ideally the Chiefs will trade for a WR who they can retain for next season as well.

Because Rashee will not be available to start next season… injury recovery/suspension.

And Hollywood is just on a one year deal… not certain he’ll be back.

DRM08 10-14-2024 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17744956)
God damnit.

Hard to be mad at Patrick for anything after all he's done for us but the blame for this is squarely on him.

On the flip side, Rice is lucky to not be dead or in jail right now with the accident he created on that Dallas freeway. If the worst case scenario for him right now is missing a year and a half of football, that's not too bad considering how fortunate he was to avoid a horrible tragedy in the car accident.

Pitt Gorilla 10-14-2024 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17744927)
Interesting. I know nobody wants to bring the suspension thing up. But if (and it’s an if) he is to be suspended it makes more sense from the nfls standpoint to suspend him beginning of next year. By then it will have played out in court and the nfl doesn’t look like they’re dodging him missing games by suspending him this season for games where he’s not available to play. All the while the chiefs can be more conservative about his return timeline. The return timeline actually makes this scenario not the worst in the world

Why not suspend him immediately? I honestly don't see the downside.

jd1020 10-14-2024 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17744971)
Why not suspend him immediately? I honestly don't see the downside.

Because if you suspend him he cannot have any contact with the team whatsoever. Meaning the Chiefs would have zero input on his rehabilitation.

DRM08 10-14-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17744971)
Why not suspend him immediately? I honestly don't see the downside.

If the Chiefs suspend him and the NFL office doesn't factor this into their suspension later on, then Rice ends up with a double-whammy suspension. Potentially hurts his relationship with the team for no reason.

chiefzilla1501 10-14-2024 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17744971)
Why not suspend him immediately? I honestly don't see the downside.

I think the nfl knows the optics of a player serving suspension for games he isn’t qualified to play. It’s like suspending a pitcher for 3 games even though they pitch every 4-5. The nfl already gets weirdly accused of playing favorites to kc. I think it also looks disingenuous from the chiefs too.

If he is to actually miss games either the chiefs or nfl will want it to be on games he legitimately would miss. This could be a nice gray area where even though he is eligible the chiefs might benefit from sitting rice an extra few

LagunaSWana 10-14-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17744996)
If the Chiefs suspend him and the NFL office doesn't factor this into their suspension later on, then Rice ends up with a double-whammy suspension. Potentially hurts his relationship with the team for no reason.

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ThrobProng 10-14-2024 02:20 PM

If we can win Super Bowls without Tyreek Hill, we can sure as **** win them without Rice. LFG

Graystoke 10-14-2024 02:22 PM

This is a bummer. We are way to thin at the receiver position and if we are serious about a 3-peat we need to get a guy asap.

Bump 10-14-2024 02:25 PM

that really sucks, he might come back for the playoffs...next season. Awful injury

ThrobProng 10-14-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 17745029)
This is a bummer. We are way to thin at the receiver position and if we are serious about a 3-peat we need to get a guy asap.

We're stronger at WR right now than were were at any point during the last 2 championship seasons.

Pitt Gorilla 10-14-2024 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17745004)
I think the nfl knows the optics of a player serving suspension for games he isn’t qualified to play. It’s like suspending a pitcher for 3 games even though they pitch every 4-5. The nfl already gets weirdly accused of playing favorites to kc. I think it also looks disingenuous from the chiefs too.

If he is to actually miss games either the chiefs or nfl will want it to be on games he legitimately would miss. This could be a nice gray area where even though he is eligible the chiefs might benefit from sitting rice an extra few

So, where is the magic date? A couple months after surgery? I mean, he COULD play at that point. Is it doctor clearance?

htismaqe 10-14-2024 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17745036)
So, where is the magic date? A couple months after surgery? I mean, he COULD play at that point. Is it doctor clearance?

I would assume as soon as they elevate him to the active roster, he will be suspended.

Hammock Parties 10-14-2024 02:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So this is bad, very bad. (So bad it makes me question what in the heck was being reported last week).<br><br>Carries a risk of him never making a full recovery so a lot of prayers for Rashee Rice, cannot be looked at a point of certainty for 2025 and beyond <a href="https://t.co/07ISzrw49m">https://t.co/07ISzrw49m</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1845918947775742070?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 10-14-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17745038)
I would assume as soon as they elevate him to the active roster, he will be suspended.

Again, though, elevate him ASAP with the understanding that a suspension is coming, no?

ThrobProng 10-14-2024 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17745038)
I would assume as soon as they elevate him to the active roster, he will be suspended.

Great, move him to the active roster about 8 weeks before medical clearance is expected, let him finish rehabbing and serve his suspension at the same time. LMAO

htismaqe 10-14-2024 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17745043)
Again, though, elevate him ASAP with the understanding that a suspension is coming, no?

They can't bring him off of IR before he's healthy. The NFL is not going to suspend an injured player.

htismaqe 10-14-2024 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17745046)
Great, move him to the active roster about 8 weeks before medical clearance is expected, let him finish rehabbing and serve his suspension at the same time. LMAO

The NFL would never allow that. They're not going to suspend an injured player.

BWillie 10-14-2024 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17744924)
Wtf. I was led to believe this was more of a 4-6 month thing...

Agent likely piped up to the Chiefs and said no way he's playing this year.

Basileus777 10-14-2024 03:17 PM

Ten to 12 months is Teicher's commentary, not sure it's worth reacting to given the source.

threebag 10-14-2024 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17744940)
It will suck if the NFL waits until he is healthy to slap the suspension on him. That would mean he's potentially gone until Week 10 or later of the 2025 season.

Why would they suspend him while he’s on IR? The league is going to make sure he misses active playing time.

MahomesMagic 10-14-2024 03:20 PM

We need to trade for a WR ASAP.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-14-2024 03:22 PM

...and to think people thought he was "good" because of twitter...JFC

Mecca 10-14-2024 03:23 PM

So it's a PCL injury that's 6-9 months, not sure where 10-12 is coming from.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-14-2024 03:24 PM

Why would they suspend him just after suffering a season ending injury? When has that ever happened?You guys are absolutely ridiculous sometimes

RealSNR 10-14-2024 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17745042)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So this is bad, very bad. (So bad it makes me question what in the heck was being reported last week).<br><br>Carries a risk of him never making a full recovery so a lot of prayers for Rashee Rice, cannot be looked at a point of certainty for 2025 and beyond <a href="https://t.co/07ISzrw49m">https://t.co/07ISzrw49m</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1845918947775742070?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Okay, so we've heard from the dickless moron with a Twitter account now. Thanks for your contribution, dickless moron.

Anybody else have something they wish to share?

O.city 10-14-2024 03:35 PM

Thought all the big guys were saying LCL?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-14-2024 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17745143)
Thought all the big guys were saying LCL?

They didn't know anything. The whole fiasco was embarrassing

Pitt Gorilla 10-14-2024 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17745119)
Why would they suspend him just after suffering a season ending injury? When has that ever happened?You guys are absolutely ridiculous sometimes

When is the proper time to suspend him? He's literally missing games now. Is that, somehow, not "punishment" enough? I guess I don't understand the point of the suspension.

If they had already suspended him and THEN he got hurt (doing whatever), would the suspension not count at that point?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-14-2024 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17745147)
When is the proper time to suspend him? He's literally missing games now. Is that, somehow, not "punishment" enough? I guess I don't understand the point of the suspension.

ROFL He hasn't even been found guilty yet

RunKC 10-14-2024 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17745147)
When is the proper time to suspend him? He's literally missing games now. Is that, somehow, not "punishment" enough? I guess I don't understand the point of the suspension.

If they had already suspended him and THEN he got hurt (doing whatever), would the suspension not count at that point?

His court date has to be completed to see what happens with his case. To my knowledge it’s not until December.

Hoover 10-14-2024 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag (Post 17745101)
Why would they suspend him while he’s on IR? The league is going to make sure he misses active playing time.

The NFL doesn't suspend players who where involved in car accidents.

This shit needs to stop. It's mazing that some people think he's going to get 8 games. I'd be floored if it was two.

Pitt Gorilla 10-14-2024 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17745149)
ROFL He hasn't even been found guilty yet

I'm suggesting a preemptive suspension by the Chiefs.

BlackHelicopters 10-14-2024 06:02 PM

He could be gone for two seasons in a worst case rehab/suspension.

Titty Meat 10-14-2024 08:20 PM

"He good"- CP doctors after he couldn't put any weight on his leg and was carted off the sideline

BWillie 10-14-2024 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17745267)
He could be gone for two seasons in a worst case rehab/suspension.

If its end of 2025...and 15% chance he's not even the same player we need to get a WR with at least 2 years on his deal. Yuck.

I just watched the HBTC video and am just very sad.

ChiefsHawk 10-14-2024 09:00 PM

How long does it take to recover from posterolateral corner reconstruction?
The recovery from posterolateral corner reconstruction varies based on the extent of the injury, your age, and how well you follow Dr. Ramkumar’s post-operative instructions. You can expect to use crutches for 2-4 weeks and wear a knee brace for up to six weeks. You can begin toe-touch weight-bearing with the crutches and progress to full weight-bearing activities when Dr. Ramkumar gives you the okay. You can resume normal household activities between 4-6 weeks after surgery. A full recovery to sports can take up to 9 months.

BossChief 10-14-2024 09:06 PM

I didn’t think anyone realistically expected Rice to be back this year…but the reactions indicate otherwise.

If we can find a way to add Hopkins, Kirk, Cooper or Tyreek….its game over for every other team.

ChiefsHawk 10-14-2024 09:10 PM

Up to 9 months but hes a world class athlete that will get the best pt possible. It won't be 9 months people. His suspension is the biggest concern.

jerryaldini 10-14-2024 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17745748)
, and how well you follow Dr. Ramkumar’s post-operative instructions. and progress to full weight-bearing activities when Dr. Ramkumar gives you the okay.

Who here is in charge of making sure he follows Dr
Ramkumar's instructions

scho63 10-15-2024 06:32 AM

Can we just draft 6 WRs next year?

TheGuardian 12-28-2024 06:03 PM

https://x.com/BradHensonPro/status/1...569466/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gf5--saX...jpg&name=large

St. Patty's Fire 12-28-2024 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17880788)
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im cumming

Bump 12-28-2024 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17744924)
Wtf. I was led to believe this was more of a 4-6 month thing...

I remember reading that it was possible he could miss next season or half of it at least.

It was a really bad injury with the knee going backwards like that. I'm concerned if he can comeback from that injury and be the same player.

Rainbarrel 12-28-2024 06:06 PM

I have seen he could be ready by the Super Bowl. How effective is another thing

TheGuardian 12-28-2024 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17880803)
I remember reading that it was possible he could miss next season or half of it at least.

It was a really bad injury with the knee going backwards like that. I'm concerned if he can comeback from that injury and be the same player.

Hamstring tendon and LCL.

LCL can def be rehabbed in 12 weeks. Not sure if he'll make it back for the playoffs but my guess is he's further along than we think

TheGuardian 12-28-2024 06:11 PM

All I know is this - next season if Rice comes back 100%, which he should, we will have the most insane WR room in the league with Rice, Worthy, Brown, and DHop....if we bring both back which I'd think we would.

Even if Trav retired Grey picks up that slack but this four would be the scariest in the league collectively.

St. Patty's Fire 12-28-2024 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17880830)
All I know is this - next season if Rice comes back 100%, which he should, we will have the most insane WR room in the league with Rice, Worthy, Brown, and DHop....if we bring both back which I'd think we would.

Even if Trav retired Grey picks up that slack but this four would be the scariest in the league collectively.

the brown injury might be a blessing in the long run if we get him to sign another 1 year deal.

Dunerdr 12-28-2024 06:30 PM

Assuming Kelce retires I’d happily put his money towards a brown contract going forward.

BossChief 12-28-2024 06:36 PM

Bawwww gawd that’s Rashee Rices music!!!!!!

chiefzilla1501 12-28-2024 06:43 PM

WHEN (Not if) rashee comes back do we re-sign dhop and Hollywood?

Can you imagine using dhop in the X with rashee in the power slot? Worthy and Hollywood two different kinds of speed options?

Dunerdr 12-28-2024 06:44 PM

Love the idea but I think if any one leaves it’s DHop.

BossChief 12-28-2024 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17881114)
WHEN (Not if) rashee comes back do we re-sign dhop and Hollywood?

Can you imagine using dhop in the X with rashee in the power slot? Worthy and Hollywood two different kinds of speed options?

I’d kinda expect them to. I don’t think either will have a solid market due to specific factors so we should be able to bring them both back with reasonable paychecks that are bargains. Neither guy is worth more than last season, and they were both limited market players then. I’m hoping that Humphries impresses and yhe 3 ex cardinals all return for the 4-peat.

scho63 12-28-2024 07:13 PM

Rashee might be out for over 2 years with everything

Rainbarrel 12-28-2024 07:18 PM

GOODELL will do the PC thing. Injury sympathy engaged

Hoover 12-28-2024 07:20 PM

The NFL is not going to suspend a player for being involved in a car accident

Dunerdr 12-28-2024 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17881405)
Rashee might be out for over 2 years with everything

Source?

BlackOp 12-28-2024 10:29 PM

....

JohnnyHammersticks 12-28-2024 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17881422)
The NFL is not going to suspend a player for being involved in a car accident

He was clearly sideswiped.

They shouldn't suspend him. In fact, he should be allowed to play in extra games to compensate him for the damage these baseless accusations have done to his reputation.

BWillie 12-29-2024 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17881422)
The NFL is not going to suspend a player for being involved in a car accident

Yawn

Bet?

scho63 12-29-2024 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17881478)
Source?

Worse case with slow rehab, legal and pending suspension.

He should be good by late 2025 but stranger things have happened.

Hope for the best.

TheGuardian 12-29-2024 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17881811)
Worse case with slow rehab, legal and pending suspension.

He should be good by late 2025 but stranger things have happened.

Hope for the best.

Dude, an LCL is not a year long rehab. It's a few months. Same for a hamstring tendon repair. WTF are you talking about?

HemiEd 12-29-2024 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17881422)
The NFL is not going to suspend a player for being involved in a car accident

There is a small detail about fleeing the scene that may become an issue.

Wisconsin_Chief 12-29-2024 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17881821)
Dude, an LCL is not a year long rehab. It's a few months. Same for a hamstring tendon repair. WTF are you talking about?

I’m still shocked it was nothing more than an LCL tear. That hit looked like it totally destroyed his entire knee.

ChiTown 12-29-2024 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17881811)
Worse case with slow rehab, legal and pending suspension.

He should be good by late 2025 but stranger things have happened.

Hope for the best.

Holy shit!ROFL You covered all your bases for sure. Hahahaha

Bearcat 12-29-2024 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17881478)
Source?

Gotta be chiefqueen.

duncan_idaho 12-29-2024 10:22 AM

It's hard to see a better-case scenario than Rice being ready around midseason next year.

If he gets suspended, I think you can play some games with when you "activate him" from his injury recovery. If the suspension is, say 4 games, and you expect him to be ready around week 10, you can put him on the preseason PUP, activate him, and then let him "serve" his suspension while technically eligible but not, in reality, ready to play.

If you're projecting an earlier return, obviously you don't have to do that. Or if the suspension is 8 games and you're expecting him ready week 10, you don't mess with PUP at all.

htismaqe 12-29-2024 10:23 AM

Rice is going to get suspended. There's zero chance the NFL just lets it slide.

OKchiefs 12-29-2024 11:18 AM

Rice's contract situation is going to be interesting. Unfortunately due to the injury (not his fault) and the likely suspension (his fault) he probably won't be able to put together a truly elite season until year 4 at the earliest, his last year under contract. Can they extend him for cheaper because of that? Does he give the team a discount for his offseason tomfoolery? He was likely on his way to somewhere in the range of a 1,200-1,300 yard, 10-12 TD season that would have earned him a lot of money even with the suspension.


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