Fantasy Football. Josh Allen or Jonathan Taylor
 

Simple, PPR League - Jonathan Taylor or Josh Allen?

That's all you offer? Not enough... plus, Taylor is a mid/late R1. Allen is a R2 or R3 depending on the league. If you're in my league and drafting ahead of me in R1, I hope you go for Allen.

Since you said simple, I assume it's not a superflex, so Taylor

Yeah, if this is anything but a superflex it isn't even a question.

Yes, the reason that is all I offered is because those are the only 2 picks I'm debating with the #6 pick in a 14 man league because I already know Bijan, Breece and CMC, Tyreek and CDC are going ahead of me. I have no interest in JJ or Chase etc, and I like JT more than Saquon and Henry... However, knowing my league, Josh Allen does not fall to me in round 2...

And as much as you say you wish I was in your league drafting josh Allen round 1, the league winner 2/3 last 3 years has won with Josh Allen being their #1 pick and many other reddit users seem to say the same whether it be they picked Mahomes or Allen in the last 3 years.


I've alwys been a QB late sort've guy, but I'm tired of not having one of the Elite guys to ride into the playoffs with no problems

After round 3 I either have the below in 14 team format: The more I look at this, the more it makes sense to have Josh Allen in my eyes.

Josh Allen
Travis Ettiene
James Cook



Jonathan Taylor
Travis Ettiene
James Cook

If its between them you take Taylor every time.

In my leagues Taylor is going right in the same area as Barkley, Kyren Williams etc

A real sleeper pick at the end of round 1 is Garrett Wilson.

If you are picking #6, then neither of these players should even be in consideration for a league with even halfway normal rules. Grab Amon-Ra.

I disagree, WR depth is very big this year compared to RB. I don't see much difference between Amon Ra and Chris Olave or Drake London.... Any of those 3 can out perform the other by years end yet one is going mid Round 1, the others are late round 2.....

I think 6 is a little high for him personally...but yea at 6 if he doesn't like Chase or Jefferson.

It's Amon-Ra, Taylor, Saquon, AJ Brown, Puka or Garrett Wilson

Chris Olave is on one of my teams and I don't like him.

I don't see why not. He's going to feed off Carr IMO and the lions again IMO are taking a step back this year... But that's fantasy football for ya. All opinions...


I guess even another question I'd have is, would you allow a straight up trade mid season of jonathan Taylor for Josh Allen? My league is always annoying af because its a vote system and anytime you try to trade a:

Garrett Wilson
Jamyr Gibbs
Amon Ra ETC ETC for Any of below:

Mahomes, Allen, Lamar.. They always deny saying its unfavored...

Well if its so unfavored, why the **** isnt Mahomes, Allen and lamar #1 #2 and #3 of every draft?

Because Carr doesn't throw down the field, Kamara is gonna catch like 100 balls.

You see what I’m saying about that trade scenario though? Everyone always acts like these qbs are untradeable mid season but during draft act like they ain’t worth a 1 or even a 2

So Allen was the sole reason teams won 2 of 3 years? I doubt it.

Get off Reddit. Go do some live mocks with 14 teams… fantasy football calculator are is free and better than average to give you a guide.

I don’t get the fascination with Allen as the top fantasy QB this year.

You must play with some weirdo's.

I dunno so far nothing has broken for me to try something different. Going into drafts I have this idea in my head that if it breaks a certain way I'm going to take Tyreek and Waddle and draft Tua late and see if I can win that way.

Falling in love with needing a specific player will destroy your draft.

In a 14 team league having the highest scoring QB that is consistent does help. I played in one of those last year and any advantage helps because it's a bunch of muddled shit.

That or getting lucky and finding this years Puka Nacua.

There are like 8-10 solid QB/WR or top TE combos to target and that’s one of them.

In a 12 or 14… having a top producing QB helps. But if you go Allen at 6, your screwed.

In one I came about 2 picks from having Hill, Achane and Waddle.

Last year, I had Goff / St. Brown / Gibbs... was great, but when that offense fails.. bad week. I won't do a trio like that again.

For giggles...



I'm going to do a quick 14 team mock at the 6 position and take Allen and see what happens. I'll see if I can post results here. It's not perfect and if there are too many 'computer picks' and not live drafters... it can get weird, but should be a good idea as to what's available in each round.


https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/draft/15177668

In a 14 team league though, don't go QB 1, just don't do it. You're better off waiting and getting like Tua in round 8.

But you really should be doing is grading sleepers guys you can draft in like round 12-15 that you can get production out of.

Allen usually goes between 30-40

Also depends where you do it, ESPN's rankings are all ****ed up.

What’s missing in all of this is that it’s pretty risky to assume Allen is going to be a top 5 fantasy QB this year, but beyond that I see basically zero chance he’s worth a first round pick.

If he's not a top 5 QB I'll literally eat my shoe. The only way it happens is if he gets hurt.

He's going to get rushing yards and TDs which pumps his value up high.

Hopefully the attachment works...

Allen
Achane
Waddle (could have gone Collins or Evans here and avoided 2 MIA)
C Kirk
D Kincaid
T McLaurin
T Spears
B Corum
R dowdle
Stafford
C Kmet
Josh Downs
Ja'Lynn Polk
Jake Moody - K
KCC - DST


Overall, not a terrible team... I rushed it and could have gone a few different ways in the mid rounds, but I'm still not taking Allen here in real life.

I did a 14 with taking josh Allen Round 1 and got below:

QB: Josh Allen
WR: Chris Godwin
WR: Dionate Johnson
RB: Travis Ettiene
RB: James Cook
TE: Kyle Pitts
Flex: Alvin Kamara


I really like this team tbh in a 14 man league, what do you think? ( I think I can get even better value at some of these spots because our league goes QB/TE early/Family league so bunch of idiots lmao)

Your RB's should be fine although you'll have some bad weeks because they can be hit or miss...those WR's though eesh.

Yeah in 14 league its really picking one or the other. If I don't take Josh Allen, I'm replacing him with Jonathan Taylor and replacing Kamara with Rashee Rice since most of or league goes off expert rankings (yahoo)

I Just don't see the value from going from Josh Allen > JT & Kamara > Rashee

I just have to try to hit on some sleeper WR's in the bench and if any week goes bad, I pray its week 1 or week 2 to pick up a WR in the form of 2023 Kyren and/or Puka.

If those are your WR just call it quits now. You would be much better off with Amon Ra and someone like Stroud or Love as your QB1.

I hope you drafted some sleeper WRs

On that mock to illustrate further, Goff, Purdy, Love and Mayfield were all closer to Allen last season than Godwin or Johnson was to Amon Ra.

Should have said it's a family league earlier... likely littered with people you love but are casual sports fans? If that's the case, you should have a much better team no matter where you pick.

I'm not sold on the Allen first strategy... but the team I drafted would crush the one you drafted.

QB: Allen
RB: D Achane
RB: T Spears
WR: J Waddle
WR: C Kirk
TE: D Kincaid
Flex: T McLaurin

I look at that team and imagine the top RB or WR in R1, paired with Tua or even Trevor later on... replace Allen with Tua and Spears with J Taylor and that's a hell of a team. Allen/Spears vs Tua/Taylor essentially... that's the opportunity cost of taking Allen at 6 overall. I took Spears as RB2 in R7 just before Tua was drafted.

QB: Tua
RB: J Taylor
RB: D Achane
WR: J Waddle
WR: C Kirk
TE: D Kincaid
Flex: T McLaurin

Thanks!! Yeah I’m really trying to reevaluate what I want to do. I like the WR’s later in the draft, but I feel the same about RB’s like gus Edwards and Jerome ford.