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Mr. Wizard 08-28-2024 10:45 AM

Sinus infection anyone?
 
Lots of sneezes at school but I think mine is self inflicted. I dove int a pool Saturday and apparently inhaled half the water into my sinuses and ears. Now I have yellow snot for days and am weak. I use a navage 3 times a day which helps but this crap ain’t goin away. Came home from school today to weak to teach shop.
Any ideas?

scho63 08-28-2024 10:50 AM

Saline spray for nostrils.

Make sure at night you are hydrated.

I haven't had one since my move to AZ.

I had 1-2 a year for about 20-25 years. I got them the most in the fall in NJ with the crunching of leaves on the golf course. Also the pollen in the spring.

The post nasal drip and squishy ears and pain around the eye sockets are the worst.

BlackHelicopters 08-28-2024 10:56 AM

Gatorade is your friend.

DJJasonp 08-28-2024 10:57 AM

get them all the time unfortunately. enough to where I've considered sinus surgery.

As mentioned - saline spray (though the gel seems to work better for me).

Sinus rinse (netti)

Sudafed (the kind you have to sign for) helps open up your ears/nose/breathing

ThrobProng 08-28-2024 10:58 AM

Go to the doctor, have him prescribe a Z-pack. You'll be fine in a few days, whereas a sinus infection can linger for weeks if left untreated.

Mr. Wizard 08-28-2024 10:59 AM

Sinus infection anyone?
 
Lots of sneezes at school but I think mine is self inflicted. I dove int a pool Saturday and apparently inhaled half the water into my sinuses and ears. Now I have yellow snot for days and am weak. I use a navage 3 times a day which helps but this crap ain’t goin away. Came home from school today to weak to teach shop.
Any ideas?

In58men 08-28-2024 11:01 AM

Get antibiotics from your doctor.

Couch-Potato 08-28-2024 12:16 PM

My strongest suggestion, stay away from nasal spray.

I'm 100% addicted, and the rebound affect is terrible, causes acute sinusitis over time.

I can't breath unless I hit the spray every few hours now.

Sucks!

Mr. Wizard 08-28-2024 12:19 PM

Seems like what is read is 50/50 meds or not. Looking for home/Walgreens remedies.

Fish 08-28-2024 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17651165)
My strongest suggestion, stay away from nasal spray.

I'm 100% addicted, and the rebound affect is terrible, causes acute sinusitis over time.

I can't breath unless I hit the spray every few hours now.

Sucks!

The hell are you doing, man? It specifically says right on the bottle not to exceed the recommended dosage or it can make symptoms worse. Use as directed, and it will do exactly what it's intended to do. You are abusing it and blaming it on the spray.

ThrobProng 08-28-2024 12:22 PM

Go to the doctor, have him prescribe a Z-pack. You'll be fine in a few days, whereas a sinus infection can linger for weeks if left untreated.

Mecca 08-28-2024 12:25 PM

Something is going around, I feel pretty blah to be honest.

ThrobProng 08-28-2024 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 17651171)
Seems like what is read is 50/50 meds or not. Looking for home/Walgreens remedies.

If you aren't taking antibiotics, your only option is to treat symptoms and wait it out. There is no OTC or home cure for a sinus infection.

kcgreene 08-28-2024 12:42 PM

A Zpak would help fix the issue if its a bacterial infection... I'm not suggesting anyone does this, but one could theoretically purchase antibiotic capsules for fish, as they are the same capsules that are used for humans but don't require a prescription because you'd be purchasing them for fish. In this case a Zpak is Azithromycin 250mg, 2 capsules on the first day, followed by 1 capsule daily for the next 4 days...

(This is not a recommendation necessarily: I say theoretically of course, as fish antibiotics are not regulated in the same way as human antibiotics, though oftentimes the capsules sold are produced by the same companies on the same assembly lines, but once produced, they potentially undergo different standards of care, and if the case of a cross-contamination or anything occurs, you wouldn't have the same legal protections that you would hold with prescription antibiotics.)

If the sinus infection is viral, nothing you can really do other than treat symptoms and stay hydrated.

Worked in pharmacy: Learned from drug reps that the only difference for a number of companies is that they package it differently.

Again, not a recommendation per se, more knowledge for people as a last resort.

stumppy 08-28-2024 01:08 PM

I remember getting a sinus infection several times back in the 80's. You can get an infection from things like your pool or maybe even falling into some random white powder by accident.
You need some antibiotics and some pseudoephedrine. You'll feel good as new in a few days.

loochy 08-28-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17651165)
My strongest suggestion, stay away from nasal spray.

I'm 100% addicted, and the rebound affect is terrible, causes acute sinusitis over time.

I can't breath unless I hit the spray every few hours now.

Sucks!


I did that to myself right after I got out of college. Basically, the doctor prescribed nasicort and ibuprofen to eliminate as much inflamation as possible and I just had to ride it out for a couple of weeks. Now I only use Afrin if I'm super stuffed and I only use it once per day and never ever use it 2 days in a row.

Bill Brasky 08-28-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17651165)
My strongest suggestion, stay away from nasal spray.

I'm 100% addicted, and the rebound affect is terrible, causes acute sinusitis over time.

I can't breath unless I hit the spray every few hours now.

Sucks!

Use a neti pot and only spray one side for a few days to let the other heal.

Mr. Wizard 08-28-2024 03:03 PM

Well I added a few drops of nasal spray to my navage and woke up after a nap clear headed. Still weak but wow. Now you are saying to avoid spray. STFU

loochy 08-28-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 17651694)
Well I added a few drops of nasal spray to my navage and woke up after a nap clear headed. Still weak but wow. Now you are saying to avoid spray. STFU


it's fine once or twice...but keep it up and you get terrible rebound congestion that is worse than the original congestion

FlaChief58 08-28-2024 03:13 PM

It's a flesh eating amoeba, and the "snot" is actually broken down brain matter. RIP.

Balto 08-28-2024 03:16 PM

Z-Pack and Neti Pot

Mr. Wizard 08-28-2024 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17651252)
A Zpak would help fix the issue if its a bacterial infection... I'm not suggesting anyone does this, but one could theoretically purchase antibiotic capsules for fish, as they are the same capsules that are used for humans but don't require a prescription because you'd be purchasing them for fish. In this case a Zpak is Azithromycin 250mg, 2 capsules on the first day, followed by 1 capsule daily for the next 4 days...

(This is not a recommendation necessarily: I say theoretically of course, as fish antibiotics are not regulated in the same way as human antibiotics, though oftentimes the capsules sold are produced by the same companies on the same assembly lines, but once produced, they potentially undergo different standards of care, and if the case of a cross-contamination or anything occurs, you wouldn't have the same legal protections that you would hold with prescription antibiotics.)

If the sinus infection is viral, nothing you can really do other than treat symptoms and stay hydrated.

Worked in pharmacy: Learned from drug reps that the only difference for a number of companies is that they package it differently.

Again, not a recommendation per se, more knowledge for people as a last resort.

Interesting. I grew up in the livestock field and many products for livestock are the same but cost a LOT more as meds for humans.

Now my question is why can’t we determine-if it’s a viral or fungal or another type of infection but we can put several people in a mini submarine to go see the titanic !

BlackHelicopters 08-28-2024 03:44 PM

Don’t take fish antibiotics. Poor tip from CP physicians.

loochy 08-28-2024 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 17651744)
Interesting. I grew up in the livestock field and many products for livestock are the same but cost a LOT more as meds for humans.

Now my question is why can’t we determine-if it’s a viral or fungal or another type of infection but we can put several people in a mini submarine to go see the titanic !


You can with bloodwork and cultures

ThrobProng 08-28-2024 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17651795)
Don’t take fish antibiotics. Poor tip from CP physicians.

Cow de-wormer good. Fish antibiotic bad.

What about horse tranquilizers?

Couch-Potato 08-28-2024 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 17651181)
The hell are you doing, man? It specifically says right on the bottle not to exceed the recommended dosage or it can make symptoms worse. Use as directed, and it will do exactly what it's intended to do. You are abusing it and blaming it on the spray.

It's a downward spiral, takes a couple weeks to kick.

Literally my worst vice.

kcgreene 08-28-2024 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17651795)
Don’t take fish antibiotics. Poor tip from CP physicians.

It's literally the same ingredient drug and the same dosage. It's even in capsules because with fish, they absorb it through the water.

You're right, what would a personal friend who's a pharmacist know when they told me that I should be fine to go ahead and do it when I didn't have insurance years ago? I'm sure that their pharmacy school and doctorate doesn't mean a damn thing.

The risks are the ones that I presented in the statement I wrote. I wasn't even trying to disguise that, nor am I endorsing it, I'm just saying that that is an option that can work (and has) if times are tough and you can't afford to get to a doctor.

kcgreene 08-28-2024 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 17651744)
Interesting. I grew up in the livestock field and many products for livestock are the same but cost a LOT more as meds for humans.

Now my question is why can’t we determine-if it’s a viral or fungal or another type of infection but we can put several people in a mini submarine to go see the titanic !

Obviously, thats not the case on everything, and the only one I happen to know about is the antibiotics that are made for fish being essentially the same. The only reason I know the fish thing was because I had a pharmacist I worked for/ a friend tell me such and I talked with a drug rep we had coming in once who told me about the manufacturing process stuff (He apparently went from that division to human pharma). But I've heard theres a lot of crossover when it comes types of drugs and such.

It's essentially same concept. Just like the usual human/ livestock barrier that items meant for human use have more stringent production standards in terms of preventing potential cross contamination and transportation standards under the FDA while most livestock products don't.

And in regards to determining the type of infection, yeah, I wish they had a more widely available testing method of some kind that isn't overpriced (for insurance to mark it up) or anything. But at the end of the day, if you have the means, probably should just see a doctor or take stuff for the symptoms.

kcgreene 08-28-2024 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17651815)
Cow de-wormer good. Fish antibiotic bad.

What about horse tranquilizers?

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Easy 6 08-28-2024 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17651724)
It's a flesh eating amoeba, and the "snot" is actually broken down brain matter. RIP.

LMAO

stumppy 08-28-2024 05:15 PM

Have you tried injecting bleach into your body?

Easy 6 08-28-2024 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 17651950)
Have you tried injecting bleach into your body?

Have you?

If not, you should

scho63 08-28-2024 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17651165)
My strongest suggestion, stay away from nasal spray.

I'm 100% addicted, and the rebound affect is terrible, causes acute sinusitis over time.

I can't breath unless I hit the spray every few hours now.

Sucks!

Great advice. :thumb:

Same problem occurs with eye drops like Visine.

displacedinMN 08-28-2024 07:53 PM

Doxycycline anti-biotic

Not sure if they do z=pac anymore.


Each fall, I get something like a sinus infection. Take that. It takes time to go away, but better than suffering.

frozenchief 08-28-2024 08:54 PM

I used to get 1-2 sinus infections a winter. Doc recommended Vitamin D. I get the 50,000 IU pills from Amazon. I take them 3-4 times a week during winter, 1-2x a week during summer.

No sinus infections in the intervening 15+ years. My colds are far less frequent and much less severe. Instead of a cold that knocks me of my feet for 5-7 days, it’s 2-3 days and pretty mild. If I don’t take my Vitamin D as I should, I can get more severe colds but I still don’t get the infections.

Don’t get the 5,000 unit pills. Get the 50,000 ones. 3-4 times a week from October thru April try it for a winter and you’ll be surprised.

BlackHelicopters 08-28-2024 09:22 PM

50,000 IU is hardcore.

Mr. Wizard 08-29-2024 04:12 PM

I went to the nurse practitioner today. She said stay on the navage and nasal spray for a max of 5 days. Then switch to navage and Flonase as long as it takes. Said she would give me antibiotics but did not think it would help. Tested neg for Covid.

TLO 08-29-2024 04:30 PM

I read this thread yesterday and today I feel like I have a sinus infection/cold. Keep your shit to yourself.

Mr. Wizard 08-29-2024 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17653322)
I read this thread yesterday and today I feel like I have a sinus infection/cold. Keep your shit to yourself.

Lol, at least I didn’t have AIDS. What would you do then.

The hospital said Covid and the flu are going crazy. Crazy that it coincides with school starting nationwide. Oh well, let us all get it and get it over with. Exactly what we should have done with Covid to begin with…….

DJJasonp 08-29-2024 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 17651950)
Have you tried injecting bleach into your body?


Dumb and debunked multiple times.

Keep it in DC.

srvy 08-30-2024 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17652105)
Doxycycline anti-biotic

Not sure if they do z=pac anymore.


Each fall, I get something like a sinus infection. Take that. It takes time to go away, but better than suffering.

It's called ragweed :D

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penguinz 08-30-2024 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 17650882)
get them all the time unfortunately. enough to where I've considered sinus surgery.

As mentioned - saline spray (though the gel seems to work better for me).

Sinus rinse (netti)

Sudafed (the kind you have to sign for) helps open up your ears/nose/breathing

It has been 25 years since I looked into the sinus surgery and unless it has improved a billion % then I would avoid.

I talked to several that had it and not one of them said it was worth it. Most had little to no improvements and a few it was even worse after.

Brody Wa 08-30-2024 05:59 PM

I suffered allergies in my nose and eyes growing up around KC. They went away when I moved to California but they came back when I moved to the Seattle at. Now I use Flonase and Refresh eye drops both of those products help a lot.

srvy 08-30-2024 07:17 PM

Your enemy particularly late summer and early fall.

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displacedinMN 08-30-2024 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17654375)
It's called ragweed :D

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Would not surprise me

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-31-2024 01:24 AM

This thread is filled with absolutely terrible advice.

Otter 08-31-2024 06:28 AM

Have you considered purchasing a fake degree or passport?


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