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SHOWTIME 08-22-2024 06:18 PM

Creed Humphrey Extension with Chiefs
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and Pro Bowl center Creed Humphrey have agreed to terms on a massive new deal to make him the NFL’s highest-paid center. <a href="https://t.co/47C484DwuE">pic.twitter.com/47C484DwuE</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1826776151651385355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 08-22-2024 06:19 PM

**** yes. Easy decision there and always was IMO. Center contracts are much more reasonable than G.

Dante84 08-22-2024 06:20 PM

Rickey called it again

staylor26 08-22-2024 06:21 PM

I wonder if they were eager to get this done to have the tag available for Bolton or Smith. It feels like that would probably be too much though.

RealSNR 08-22-2024 06:22 PM

Ding Dong BWillie's dead

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-22-2024 06:22 PM

**** yes!!! Lock down Bolton and Smith and we’re golden!

ChiliConCarnage 08-22-2024 06:22 PM

he looks like a goofy ****er in that picture. He's our goofy ****er though. Hell yeah!

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2024 06:22 PM

Nice. Wonder when we'll see numbers.

Coach 08-22-2024 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17642434)
I wonder if they were eager to get this done to have the tag available for Bolton or Smith.

It would make sense. Easier problem to work with on between Bolton and/or Smith as opposed to Humphrey, Bolton, and/or Smith.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-22-2024 06:24 PM

Pretty Ricky

Chief Roundup 08-22-2024 06:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN Sources: Chiefs and Pro Bowl center Creed Humphrey reached agreement on a four-year, $72 million extension, including $50 million guaranteed. Humphrey now becomes the highest-paid center in NFL history.<br><br>Deal negotiated by Ken Sarnoff and Andy Simms of 1 of 1 Agency. <a href="https://t.co/AooEM0HMwb">pic.twitter.com/AooEM0HMwb</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1826777131092967879?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jewish Rabbi 08-22-2024 06:24 PM

Okay and now my dick is extended!!!

wazu 08-22-2024 06:24 PM

Creed is good!

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2024 06:25 PM

Wow. Beat the previous AAV by about 4.5 million.

LittleMeatballNick 08-22-2024 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17642446)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN Sources: Chiefs and Pro Bowl center Creed Humphrey reached agreement on a four-year, $72 million extension, including $50 million guaranteed. Humphrey now becomes the highest-paid center in NFL history.<br><br>Deal negotiated by Ken Sarnoff and Andy Simms of 1 of 1 Agency. <a href="https://t.co/AooEM0HMwb">pic.twitter.com/AooEM0HMwb</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1826777131092967879?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Damn i was gonna guess 4 years 60 million

Wisconsin_Chief 08-22-2024 06:26 PM

Good lord, that’s a lot of goddamn money for a center.

I’ll obviously trust them, but wow.

Pablo 08-22-2024 06:27 PM

If I had just one wish
Only one demand
I hope we extend Creed
I hope he snaps pigskins

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17642457)
Good lord, that’s a lot of goddamn money for a center.

I’ll obviously trust them, but wow.

Only thing I'd look sideways at is if they extended Trey Smith as well.

Chiefspants 08-22-2024 06:30 PM

If there’s anything that gives Patrick happy feet and causes him to preemptively drift backwards and abandon clean pockets, it’s pressure up the middle.

That compensation suggests the Chiefs see the impact Creed has had for Patrick as a pocket passer.

Stryker 08-22-2024 06:31 PM

Awesome news! Keep the band together baby! :thumb:

DJ's left nut 08-22-2024 06:32 PM

Guessing that’s more like 3/$50 million with a big ol’ base salary at the end that he’s unlikely to see.

I mean they DEMOLISHED the market, don’t get me wrong. But there will be some finagling in there.

tredadda 08-22-2024 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17642462)
Only thing I'd look sideways at is if they extended Trey Smith as well.

If they do then hopefully it’s not market settling as well. We have one of the most expensive QB, top paid TE, top paid DT, and now top paid C. Still curious what they do with Bolton and when the time comes, McDuffie.

Either way I am glad Creed is still a Chief and trust that Veach knows what he is doing.

staylor26 08-22-2024 06:34 PM

Creed isn't just the best C in the league. Dude is always available.

Coochie liquor 08-22-2024 06:40 PM

Hope there’s a “dirting the snap” clause. Jk. Love Creed! Protect Patrick at all costs!

RunKC 08-22-2024 06:41 PM

$18 million APY?! Holy shit

Need to see the structure of the deal but wow

-King- 08-22-2024 06:46 PM

Called he would get the highest salary for a center. 12.5 a year guaranteed isn't bad. Gotta see how likely it is he gets the other 20mil and how that breaks down

smithandrew051 08-22-2024 06:47 PM

Worth it.

Jewish Rabbi 08-22-2024 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17642563)
Worth it.

I like that he plays for my favorite team the KC City Chiefs

TomBarndtsTwin 08-22-2024 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17642434)
I wonder if they were eager to get this done to have the tag available for Bolton or Smith. It feels like that would probably be too much though.

Zero chance they use the tag on Bolton. There is no separate designation for OLB and MLB on the tag so they’d be putting a price tag on him for WAY more than they should by tagging him.

Unless he takes a team friendly deal, they’ll likely let him test the market and let him see his value. He's not worth close to what the highest paid OLB’s are getting. Nor would the Chiefs consider paying him as such.

Hoover 08-22-2024 06:53 PM

They could tag Smith for a year if they wanted

Mecca 08-22-2024 06:54 PM

He got paid as an interior lineman not just a center.

Bump 08-22-2024 06:54 PM

nice! he deserves it

staylor26 08-22-2024 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17642577)
Zero chance they use the tag on Bolton. There is no separate designation for OLB and MLB on the tag so they’d be putting a price tag on him for WAY more than they should by tagging him.

Unless he takes a team friendly deal, they’ll likely let him test the market and let him see his value. He's not worth close to what the highest paid OLB’s are getting. Nor would the Chiefs consider paying him as such.

Ahh I forgot that there was no distinction there at LB. Yea, not happening.

Don't think they'll tag Trey either honestly.

Wisconsin_Chief 08-22-2024 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17642518)
$18 million APY?! Holy shit

Need to see the structure of the deal but wow

I guess we need to keep in mind it’s an extension as well. He’s making like 5 million this year, so it’s really 5-years, $77 million if you want to look at it like that. Seems more reasonable.

Either way, they clearly decided he was not expendable. We know they have no problem letting guys leave if they think we can get by without them, so just have to trust them.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2024 06:56 PM

Don't really understand why folks are surprised at the AAV. The last elite center to sign did so in 2021.

Molitoth 08-22-2024 06:57 PM

Not a fan of this, but in Mahomes/Veech I trust.

BigRedChief 08-22-2024 06:58 PM

$18 million X 4 years with $50 million guaranteed? Thats a lot but he’s worth it.

DJ's left nut 08-22-2024 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17642558)
Called he would get the highest salary for a center. 12.5 a year guaranteed isn't bad. Gotta see how likely it is he gets the other 20mil and how that breaks down

That’s not how ‘guaranteed’ works.

If he plays 4 years, he’s getting $72 million. If he only gets 50, that’s only gonna be over 3 years.

It’s a big Fing contract. Not sure I’d have given it to him. But we’ll see if the structure paints a different picture somehow.

redfan 08-22-2024 06:59 PM

Love it! Creed is good!

DJ's left nut 08-22-2024 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17642593)
Ahh I forgot that there was no distinction there at LB. Yea, not happening.

Don't think they'll tag Trey either honestly.

That’s why this AAV for creed is strange to me.

Tag figure for Creed was like $13 million. And they weren’t going to use it on Bolton or Smith.

So you gave him 3 years and $59 million on TOP of the tag year?

Sorry but this just feels like too much by a solid 15%.

-King- 08-22-2024 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17642603)
That’s not how ‘guaranteed’ works.

If he plays 4 years, he’s getting $72 million. If he only gets 50, that’s only gonna be over 3 years.

It’s a big Fing contract. Not sure I’d have given it to him. But we’ll see if the structure paints a different picture somehow.

Yeah you're right. Ugh. Was just trying to get the best case scenario out of it. Well ****.

TwistedChief 08-22-2024 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17642603)
That’s not how ‘guaranteed’ works.

If he plays 4 years, he’s getting $72 million. If he only gets 50, that’s only gonna be over 3 years.

It’s a big Fing contract. Not sure I’d have given it to him. But we’ll see if the structure paints a different picture somehow.

Yes, there is definitely no value here. And it feels like on a position-adjusted basis center inflation is nearly on par with guard inflation.

It is what it is. They clearly value what he brings.

Trust thy Veach.

See you later, Trey.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2024 07:04 PM

Wait, what? Tags for OL aren't by position. The tag would be a bit over 20 million for Creed.

Tribal Warfare 08-22-2024 07:05 PM

Pretty Rickey approves

Okchief80 08-22-2024 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17642603)
That’s not how ‘guaranteed’ works.

If he plays 4 years, he’s getting $72 million. If he only gets 50, that’s only gonna be over 3 years.

It’s a big Fing contract. Not sure I’d have given it to him. But we’ll see if the structure paints a different picture somehow.

Three years for 50 million is good to me. Hopefully there is nothing guaranteed in year four. Smith is gone.

Couch-Potato 08-22-2024 07:07 PM

Nice!

KingPriest2 08-22-2024 07:08 PM

How can we afford him?


We have $17 mil I. Cap this year

But wow

$8 mil for next year.

We still have Smith and Bolten and other free agents

Mecca 08-22-2024 07:12 PM

Bolton's toast...the Chiefs decided an off ball LB that isn't a great cover guy is replaceable in today's NFL.

Chiefspants 08-22-2024 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17642647)
Bolton's toast...the Chiefs decided an off ball LB that isn't a great cover guy is replaceable in today's NFL.

Bolton having a nagging wrist injury could be an issue this year. He was a different player in the 2023 playoffs than he was in 2022 (where he was disrupting almost every play).

pugsnotdrugs19 08-22-2024 07:16 PM

Wonder if the higher AAV than expected is a way to maybe give Trey a very similar deal and keep both happy here. Rather than trying to do Creed at $15m, and Trey then at $20m — maybe you can have both at around $18.5m by getting Smith to take an almost identical deal to stay home.

Either way, had to get this one done.

Couch-Potato 08-22-2024 07:17 PM

We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?

PatMahomesIsGod 08-22-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17642454)
Wow. Beat the previous AAV by about 4.5 million.

I don’t like that in the slightest.

PatMahomesIsGod 08-22-2024 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17642670)
We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?

Nah, dog.

Mecca 08-22-2024 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17642670)
We still gonna sign Trey Smith too?

50/50

I think Bolton's likely gone though.

BWillie 08-22-2024 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17642436)
Ding Dong BWillie's dead

I didn't disagree they wouldn't sign him. I just didn't want them to. This is a severe overpay in an offense that does not need an elite center. Sure you want one but you dont wanna pay for one. They did what Mahomes wanted, which counts for something.

TomBarndtsTwin 08-22-2024 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17642593)
Ahh I forgot that there was no distinction there at LB. Yea, not happening.

Don't think they'll tag Trey either honestly.

Agree on both counts.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-22-2024 07:23 PM

Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.

Okchief80 08-22-2024 07:25 PM

Protect Mahomes! This is the number one goal. We can see if someone looks good to replace smith or we draft his replacement next year.

Coach 08-22-2024 07:26 PM

But hey, you can join Creed at Outlaw on September 6 to 8th at the T-Mobile center!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-22-2024 07:27 PM

Veach just said he’s looking at getting other players signed long term too!!

IowaHawkeyeChief 08-22-2024 07:27 PM

Creed could easily be a top Guard as well. This gives us flexibility to move him to Thuney or Smith spot if we have an opportunity to sign or draft a decent center.

-King- 08-22-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17642697)
Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.

Not really. Tyreek and Sneed were both top 5 at their positions. Tyreek was maybe top 1 lol.

DRM08 08-22-2024 07:30 PM

No hometown discount on this one. Figured it would be $15-16M per year instead of $18M.

Chiefspants 08-22-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17642697)
Veach and co. have this formula down to where it seems to be kinda predictable. In a good way nevertheless.

If you aren’t an elite, undoubted blue chip — you’re probably not getting paid here. Not market price anyhow. But if you are one of those top five-ish at your position, they’ll pay up accordingly.

A nice balance to hopefully keep the short term and long term equally prioritized.

I think they pay their unicorns (I.E. players whose impact can’t be replicated with another player or a scheme change). I don’t quite see Creed in that way, but if he’s getting credit for Patrick’s evolution in the pocket, I could see it.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-22-2024 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17642729)
Not really. Tyreek and Sneed were both top 5 at their positions. Tyreek was maybe top 1 lol.

Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.

TomBarndtsTwin 08-22-2024 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17642759)
Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.

I think it’s pretty clear they were gonna re-sign Reek before the Davante deal dropped.

Once that did, it set off the domino of allowing him to explore deals and once Veach learned what kind of draft compensation he could get in addition to the financial flexibility of NOT having the highest paid WR in the game, it made it a no brainer for him.


Edit: And he was right, I should add.

digger 08-22-2024 08:07 PM

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dlphg9 08-22-2024 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17642558)
Called he would get the highest salary for a center. 12.5 a year guaranteed isn't bad. Gotta see how likely it is he gets the other 20mil and how that breaks down

Well yeah...

Did anyone ever think he wasn't going to be the highest paid center of all time?

dlphg9 08-22-2024 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17642759)
Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.

Tyreek was 1000% signing here if Adams hadn't gotten his deal.

dlphg9 08-22-2024 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17642689)
I didn't disagree they wouldn't sign him. I just didn't want them to. This is a severe overpay in an offense that does not need an elite center. Sure you want one but you dont wanna pay for one. They did what Mahomes wanted, which counts for something.

He wasn't insinuating that you said it wasn't getting done dipshit.

-King- 08-22-2024 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17642879)
Well yeah...

Did anyone ever think he wasn't going to be the highest paid center of all time?

Yeah. Hell I was saying he would demand 15-17 a year and I thought 17 was overshooting it.

-King- 08-22-2024 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17642759)
Fair - I should have added in the original post, there can’t be serious red flags around their game either.

Sneed had the knee. Tyreek had become a malcontent who cried for the ball.

I think you're trying too hard to find a system behind who re-signs and who doesn't. There's a bunch of varying factors behind each negotiation and eventual deals that it wouldn't make any sense to have a concrete system that you always go on.

BossChief 08-22-2024 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17642647)
Bolton's toast...the Chiefs decided an off ball LB that isn't a great cover guy is replaceable in today's NFL.

Wanna bet on that?

TomBarndtsTwin 08-22-2024 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17642993)
Wanna bet on that?

I think it depends entirely on the price tag he wants. They’re not paying him like Fred Warner or Roquan Smith, if that’s what he’s looking for.

If he’s willing to take a deal closer to Matt Milano or Patrick Queen, then I think they can probably get something worked out.

BossChief 08-22-2024 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17643013)
I think it depends entirely on the price tag he wants. They’re not paying him like Fred Warner or Roquan Smith, if that’s what he’s looking for.

If he’s willing to take a deal closer to Matt Milano or Patrick Queen, then I think they can probably get something worked out.

Bolton won’t get Roquan money. His agents know that. He doesn’t time like them, offer the same level of value in the passing game and has missed significant time to injury.

He will agree to a deal that falls into that second tier…somewhere between Oluakan and Queen.

Fishels 08-22-2024 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 17642438)
he looks like a goofy ****er in that picture. He's our goofy ****er though. Hell yeah!

This was the first time i actually saw his face lol. I had no idea he looked like that

O.city 08-22-2024 10:11 PM

Nate Taylor has it at 15.5 million per

RunKC 08-22-2024 10:27 PM

Creed HIMphrey tbh

big nasty kcnut 08-22-2024 10:38 PM

creed once knock out a horse.

DRM08 08-22-2024 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17643069)
Nate Taylor has it at 15.5 million per

Just looked at Taylor’s article. It says 4 years and $72 million on the extension. That’s $18M per year. But Creed still has one cheap year left on his rookie deal, so it’s an overall average of about $15.4 million per year for 5 seasons.


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