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RunKC 07-16-2024 11:16 AM

49ers Brandon Aiyuk has requested a trade
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brandon Aiyuk is under contract for a little more than $14 million this season. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> survived a trade request from Deebo Samuel. We’ll see if they can find their way through this one from Aiyuk. <a href="https://t.co/jKpRuBqOkJ">https://t.co/jKpRuBqOkJ</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1813260580117250128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 07-16-2024 11:20 AM

Lol and they haven’t even paid Purdy yet

New World Order 07-16-2024 11:24 AM

The cap applying the figure four to the niner knee bone right now!

staylor26 07-16-2024 11:26 AM

He's not going anywhere until next offseason.

Like the Bengals with Higgins, they will tell him to get ****ed, because they're all-in on a SB this year.

chiefzilla1501 07-16-2024 11:28 AM

God that would be a wet dream but we're the last team in the universe sf would deal with

Wisconsin_Chief 07-16-2024 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17587557)
He's not going anywhere until next offseason.

Like the Bengals with Higgins, they will tell him to get ****ed, because they're all-in on a SB this year.

As they should. Dude is going to rake in $14 million to play for one of the legacy organizations of pro football. Pretty sure he'll be fine.

RunKC 07-16-2024 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17587557)
He's not going anywhere until next offseason.

Like the Bengals with Higgins, they will tell him to get ****ed, because they're all-in on a SB this year.

49ers take a step back this year IMO.

Eagles got way better, Lions are still really good and experienced, Packers on the rise and their division will be better. Rams won 10 games in a rebuild year, Seahawks rebuilding and won 9.

Mike McDonald embarrassed Rat Jr’s offense last year and has nice pieces on his new team. Could see 49ers drop to a 4 or 5 seed tbh.

Marcellus 07-16-2024 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17587566)
God that would be a wet dream but we're the last team in the universe sf would deal with

We aren't giving a WR a crazy contract anytime soon anyway. He wouldn't be a fit here because he will want paid.

O.city 07-16-2024 11:57 AM

He'll be a 9er this year. They've got the leverage unless he wants to go full nuclear.

scho63 07-16-2024 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17587566)
God that would be a wet dream but we're the last team in the universe sf would deal with

They only trade us broken down QBs

Hoover 07-16-2024 12:12 PM

We don’t need him.

Bart knows what he’s doing. This team is going cheap at WR and LT but investing ample draft capital at both positions.

tredadda 07-16-2024 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17587539)
Lol and they haven’t even paid Purdy yet

Would not be surprised if they didn’t. It seems like Shanahan makes average QBs look good ala the old Broncos and RBs.

Red Dawg 07-16-2024 12:32 PM

He isn't going anywhere unless someone pony's up big picks and a lot of money. Not happening for both. He's not and elite player.

notorious 07-16-2024 12:36 PM

I hope a team doesn’t go full-reerun and hand them a future haul of picks.

You know they are out there.

Jewish Rabbi 07-16-2024 12:56 PM

Give them Toney and Skyy

Womble 07-16-2024 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 17587726)
Give them Toney and Skyy

Could throw CEH and Connor Embree in as well to seal the deal.

ptlyon 07-16-2024 01:10 PM

Guess he doesn't like coming in 2nd

Womble 07-16-2024 01:13 PM

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Jewish Rabbi 07-16-2024 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17587763)

49ers would have to include all of England’s trophies in the last 60 years for me to agree to that

In58men 07-16-2024 01:33 PM

Deebo and Robbie Gould both requested trades too and they both got deals.

Nothing more than a scare tactic

BIG_DADDY 07-16-2024 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17587763)

Funnies post I have read in here in I don't even know how long.

Megatron96 07-16-2024 02:25 PM

I think I read somewhere that Aiyuk is looking for close to $30 million/yr, and SF only wants to pay him in the low to mid $20s. I get that he's a top-10 WR the last season or two, but he's not on the same tier with JJ, Davante Adams, Tyreek, Amon-Ra, etc., imo. He should take the $24 million/yr or whatever and try to win SBs in SF. Wherever he gets traded to, they won't be in real contention for a Ring anytime soon; it's how they'll be able to afford him, fcs.

chiefzilla1501 07-16-2024 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17587613)
We aren't giving a WR a crazy contract anytime soon anyway. He wouldn't be a fit here because he will want paid.

We don't really need him anymore. But a big contract wr can absolutely fit because it would make us a cheat code on offense. If he's slotted anywhere near justin Jefferson? Nah, that's too rich for our blood.

But as of right now, yeah we're loaded and don't need it

Pasta Little Brioni 07-16-2024 03:06 PM

30 million for Aiyuk would be dumb as ****

RealSNR 07-16-2024 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17587677)
Would not be surprised if they didn’t. It seems like Shanahan makes average QBs look good ala the old Broncos and RBs.

He does that but then also has seasons where Jimmy G gets a season ender and his Niners completely implode and finish 4-12.

Honestly, if you're such a great QB whisperer like he has the reputation of, he should have at least gone .500 in those seasons. Andy did that shit all the time.

gordonelloyd 07-16-2024 07:34 PM

He is definitely not coming here. We shouldn’t really need him given the improvement in our WR room. And there’s no way we would pay what he would want. And no way San Francisco would trade him to us. I expect he’ll stay in San Francisco and try to improve his negotiating position for when he probably goes somewhere else next year.

But I do wonder if the chargers will make an attractive offer.

kozzman555 07-16-2024 07:53 PM

If Aiyuk wanted $30mil/yr maybe he should've showed up to play in the Super Bowl. Bro got outplayed by Jennings. And for those giving all of the credit to Sneed and McDuffy blanketing him, for $30mil/yr you better figure out a way to get open.

SHOWTIME 07-16-2024 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17587701)
I hope a team doesn’t go full-reerun and hand them a future haul of picks.

You know they are out there.

Why not? If you are close to a SB, then go for it.

Dunerdr 07-16-2024 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 17588388)
If Aiyuk wanted $30mil/yr maybe he should've showed up to play in the Super Bowl. Bro got outplayed by Jennings. And for those giving all of the credit to Sneed and McDuffy blanketing him, for $30mil/yr you better figure out a way to get open.

You think shanahan gives them the liberty to free lance? Hell no. They live by the sword and die by the sword in San Fran.

Stryker 07-16-2024 08:25 PM

Without reading the posts, he ain't going NO WHERE! He will be tagged unless a team like the Commanders or whoever makes a ridiculous offer for him. Either way, he stays and plays for the 49ers. Nothing to see here move along.

Dunerdr 07-17-2024 07:21 AM

In years past this would be a 250 reply thread by now minimum. Chiefs planet has lost its burst.

notorious 07-17-2024 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17588405)
Why not? If you are close to a SB, then go for it.

When has it worked in the past?

tredadda 07-17-2024 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17588041)
He does that but then also has seasons where Jimmy G gets a season ender and his Niners completely implode and finish 4-12.

Honestly, if you're such a great QB whisperer like he has the reputation of, he should have at least gone .500 in those seasons. Andy did that shit all the time.

Fair assessment. I don't see him as much of a QB whisperer, but more of one who's system is more QB friendly. This doesn't mean anyone can step into it and succeed, but the 49ers might believe that they can replace Purdy vs paying him $50 million + a year with probably close to $150 million guaranteed.

SHOWTIME 07-17-2024 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17588687)
When has it worked in the past?

The Rams went all-in in 2021 and won it all.

I wouldn't pay a lot of assets to get Aiyuk if I were a rebuilding team, but a team that is close to winning a SB and is in need of a stud WR then I would definitely consider it. Green Bay for example is a great team but doesn't have a number 1 WR right now. It all depends on the current roster. Aiyuk is a top 10 WR. Now if you were to ask me should Kansas City give multiple 1sts to get him, I would say no way.

mr. tegu 07-17-2024 07:55 AM

49ers Brandon Aiyuk has requested a trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17588690)
Fair assessment. I don't see him as much of a QB whisperer, but more of one who's system is more QB friendly. This doesn't mean anyone can step into it and succeed, but the 49ers might believe that they can replace Purdy vs paying him $50 million + a year with probably close to $150 million guaranteed.

Jimmy G says hello. He’s about as awful as they come and he was certainly successful in many ways.

Valiant 07-17-2024 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17587613)
We aren't giving a WR a crazy contract anytime soon anyway. He wouldn't be a fit here because he will want paid.

With how many good wr there are. I would just draft one every year in one of the first 3 rounds. If you hit on one becoming a hof wr. Great. Hopefully it works or trade them..

Now tight ends.should be a focus on keeping them elite mainly for cost comparison.

MahomesMagic 07-17-2024 12:39 PM

Don't think he will be available but I would look at that for KC.


We don't have a #1 and Kelce is aging out soon.

When Kelce retires we will need someone just like this.

In58men 07-17-2024 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17589145)
Don't think he will be available but I would look at that for KC.


We don't have a #1 and Kelce is aging out soon.

When Kelce retires we will need someone just like this.

With our OL being uncertain right now, I look more towards investing there before another WR.

Dunerdr 07-17-2024 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17589238)
With our OL being uncertain right now, I look more towards investing there before another WR.

Your talking too the biggest wide receiver dipshit who pines for a "true Alpha" but cant explain what that is.

In58men 07-17-2024 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17589250)
Your talking too the biggest wide receiver dipshit who pines for a "true Alpha" but cant explain what that is.

Here’s his WR

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are signing former Slippery Rock WR Kyle Sheets, per source. Sheets originally signed with New Orleans as an undrafted free agent.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1813580069929119795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 07-17-2024 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17589291)
Here’s your WR

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To the ship!

loochy 07-17-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17589291)
Here’s his WR

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What's a slippery rock?

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notorious 07-17-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17589324)
What's a slippery rock?

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School in Pennsylvania evidently.

Hamwallet 07-17-2024 04:46 PM

I could see Texas making an offer and paying him. Great young QB on a rookie deal.

Kiimo 07-17-2024 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17588676)
In years past this would be a 250 reply thread by now minimum. Chiefs planet has lost its burst.

We don't need him! In years past he'd be our savior


We already have our savior



edit: We also don't need Slippery Sheets

Dunerdr 07-17-2024 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 17589496)
I could see Texas making an offer and paying him. Great young QB on a rookie deal.

They have two quality receivers on rookie deals and Diggs now.

lewdog 07-17-2024 08:35 PM

I'd ask for a trade if I had to play with Brock Purdy too.

New World Order 07-17-2024 09:21 PM

Unpopular opinion:

I’d rather hold onto Mcaffrey, Aiyuk and deebo and roll with a guy like Jimmy g than lose one of those 3 and go with Purdy

Couch-Potato 07-17-2024 09:42 PM

I agree.

Pay Aiyuk, keep McCaffrey and Deebo, plus all the other talent, trade Purdy to NYG and pkg some picks to move up for a 1st round QB on another cost controlled rookie deal to take that talent filled roster over the top.

Bump 07-17-2024 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17589759)
I'd ask for a trade if I had to play with Brock Purdy too.

Aiyuk had Sneed beat badly in the endzone on their last play before a field goal, Purdy couldn't see it because Chris Jones was about to sack him. But he's probably salty as hell about that, has to be.

RealSNR 07-17-2024 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17589794)
Unpopular opinion:

I’d rather hold onto Mcaffrey, Aiyuk and deebo and roll with a guy like Jimmy g than lose one of those 3 and go with Purdy

I don't really know if that's an option, though.

If Jimmy G were still serviceable as a game manager starting QB, he'd still be making Geno money at a minimum. I don't know if the Niners could give top-end deals at their respective positions to all those guys and still dole out Geno money to their QB. And if they did, they'd for sure be seeing some cuts to some to their defense.

I get that Trent Williams is going to retire soon. That will help them, certainly, but they've still got 2 $100 million WRs, a pricey TE contract, the top RB contract, a top 3 DE contract, a top 10 CB contract, yadda yadda yadda.

Purdy costs them nothing and that's the only real reason why they can consider extending Aiyuk right now.

mrbiggz 07-17-2024 10:57 PM

They might be the first team to have 100M tied up in a QB/WR combo in the upcoming years with Purdy eligible for an extension after this year.

With Aiuyuk, I suspect that they will franchise him next year and then extend him in 2026 making him a damn near a 40M a year receiver.

saphojunkie 07-17-2024 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamwallet (Post 17589496)
I could see Texas making an offer and paying him. Great young QB on a rookie deal.

I don't think he has any eligibility left

Bump 07-18-2024 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17589900)
I don't think he has any eligibility left

if he meant Texans it doesn't really make sense. They have pretty good receivers already and if Stroud has another great season and does anything in the playoffs they are going to have to pay him next off season, I would think. And then everyone will be saying 'He's getting paid more than Mahomes! Chiefs are a garbage organization!' because they can't understand that Mahomes already signed a record deal and it just goes up every time.

Dunerdr 07-18-2024 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17589808)
I agree.

Pay Aiyuk, keep McCaffrey and Deebo, plus all the other talent, trade Purdy to NYG and pkg some picks to move up for a 1st round QB on another cost controlled rookie deal to take that talent filled roster over the top.

I'd take my chances on whatever mobile phenoms come out with a decent arm and try to replicate what Philly did with Jalen.

O.city 07-18-2024 06:27 AM

Deebo is gone after this year, he’s not really a wr. If they’re smart they’d pay aiyuk, keep him with purdy and trade deebo next offseason or cut him.

New World Order 07-18-2024 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17589851)
I don't really know if that's an option, though.

If Jimmy G were still serviceable as a game manager starting QB, he'd still be making Geno money at a minimum. I don't know if the Niners could give top-end deals at their respective positions to all those guys and still dole out Geno money to their QB. And if they did, they'd for sure be seeing some cuts to some to their defense.

I get that Trent Williams is going to retire soon. That will help them, certainly, but they've still got 2 $100 million WRs, a pricey TE contract, the top RB contract, a top 3 DE contract, a top 10 CB contract, yadda yadda yadda.

Purdy costs them nothing and that's the only real reason why they can consider extending Aiyuk right now.

He’s serviceable under Shanahan.

Kiimo 07-18-2024 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17589922)
if he meant Texans it doesn't really make sense. They have pretty good receivers already and if Stroud has another great season and does anything in the playoffs they are going to have to pay him next off season, I would think. And then everyone will be saying 'He's getting paid more than Mahomes! Chiefs are a garbage organization!' because they can't understand that Mahomes already signed a record deal and it just goes up every time.



Pretty good is an understatement

Couch-Potato 07-18-2024 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17589851)
I don't really know if that's an option, though.

If Jimmy G were still serviceable as a game manager starting QB, he'd still be making Geno money at a minimum. I don't know if the Niners could give top-end deals at their respective positions to all those guys and still dole out Geno money to their QB. And if they did, they'd for sure be seeing some cuts to some to their defense.

I get that Trent Williams is going to retire soon. That will help them, certainly, but they've still got 2 $100 million WRs, a pricey TE contract, the top RB contract, a top 3 DE contract, a top 10 CB contract, yadda yadda yadda.

Purdy costs them nothing and that's the only real reason why they can consider extending Aiyuk right now.

Man, just imagine if we would've signed Trent Williams how good this OL would be!!! lol 4 of our starters would've made the top 10 for OTs and IOL.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-18-2024 02:01 PM

Can't wait to piss pound the Texans

gordonelloyd 07-18-2024 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17590629)
Man, just imagine if we would've signed Trent Williams how good this OL would be!!! lol 4 of our starters would've made the top 10 for OTs and IOL.

Nice to imagine. But it would not have worked without hugely distorting our salary, cap situation I don’t think.

MahomesMagic 07-18-2024 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17589250)
Your talking too the biggest wide receiver dipshit who pines for a "true Alpha" but cant explain what that is.


Big WR that can eat 10+ targets a game such as Michael Pittman.


Sorry that this is too hard for you to understand.

Rausch 07-19-2024 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17590094)
Pretty good is an understatement

Diggs is done. He's no longer a big play guy and at the end of last year sure as hell wasn't a possession receiver. Their main two are very good but also often injured.
If everyone stays healthy and Diggs gets stuff back on track they'll be a top 10 passing offense. That team still plans to pound the football on the ground.

ForeverIowan 07-19-2024 07:32 PM

Why wouldn't the Lions make an all-in move like this? The NFC is as bad as I can ever remember. That Lions team is one more major piece away from making a Super Bowl.

Montgomery and Gibbs at running back. LaPorta at TE. St Brown, Aiyuk and Williams at receiver. That is a Super Bowl roster. Give it to that poor fanbase they deserve it.

Kiimo 07-20-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17590804)
Big WR that can eat 10+ targets a game such as Michael Pittman.


Sorry that this is too hard for you to understand.

I’m sorry, your alpha wide receiver is Michael Pittman?? LMFAO.

scho63 07-20-2024 01:39 PM

I think this is damaged beyond repair.

ThaVirus 07-20-2024 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17589983)
Deebo is gone after this year, he’s not really a wr. If they’re smart they’d pay aiyuk, keep him with purdy and trade deebo next offseason or cut him.

Unfortunately for them, Deebo is probably their most important offensive piece.

But then fortunately for them, Shanahan can make use of a tweener like Deebo better than most.

Based on what happened last season, I’d bet they’ll look to at least negotiate with Deebo. It looks like Aiyuk is the odd man out.

MahomesMagic 07-20-2024 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17593149)
I’m sorry, your alpha wide receiver is Michael Pittman?? LMFAO.

I'm sorry you don't know jack shit about football players on other NFL teams.

saphojunkie 07-20-2024 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17593149)
I’m sorry, your alpha wide receiver is Michael Pittman?? LMFAO.

Man I don't know - Pittman is quietly a beast, but no one cares because that team sucks.

MahomesMagic 07-20-2024 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17592575)
Why wouldn't the Lions make an all-in move like this? The NFC is as bad as I can ever remember. That Lions team is one more major piece away from making a Super Bowl.

Montgomery and Gibbs at running back. LaPorta at TE. St Brown, Aiyuk and Williams at receiver. That is a Super Bowl roster. Give it to that poor fanbase they deserve it.

Under their current OC, Sun God is their #1 and will get massive target share each game.

saphojunkie 07-20-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17593238)
I'm sorry you don't know jack shit about football players on other NFL teams.

You can also calm down. Pittman has shown the potential to be very good, but his 1100 yards and 4 TDs last year wasn't a barn burner.

Rashee Rice looks to be every bit as productive as Pittman, having caught more TDs in his rookie season than Pittman ever has. His yards would be Pittman's third best total.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the players on THIS team.

MahomesMagic 07-20-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17593253)
You can also calm down. Pittman has shown the potential to be very good, but his 1100 yards and 4 TDs last year wasn't a barn burner.

Rashee Rice looks to be every bit as productive as Pittman, having caught more TDs in his rookie season than Pittman ever has. His yards would be Pittman's third best total.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the players on THIS team.

Rice is a very good player. But if you are declaring him to be a true #1 WR based on last year you're guessing at best.


He was used as a bully slot last year and caught most of his passes at the LOS. That's great. That's nice but his route tree and usage needs to expand this year.

staylor26 07-20-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17593155)
Unfortunately for them, Deebo is probably their most important offensive piece.

But then fortunately for them, Shanahan can make use of a tweener like Deebo better than most.

Based on what happened last season, I’d bet they’ll look to at least negotiate with Deebo. It looks like Aiyuk is the odd man out.

Zero chance they actually value Deebo more than Aiyuk, an actual WR.

Just look at the SB tape. Deebo couldn't separate from our great cover corners, while Aiyuk was getting open consistently.

Aiyuk is an actual WR. Deebo is an offensive weapon. If they choose Deebo over Aiyuk, it's about a difference in money, because Aiyuk is the better player all things even.

ThaVirus 07-20-2024 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17593320)
Zero chance they actually value Deebo more than Aiyuk, an actual WR.

Just look at the SB tape. Deebo couldn't separate from our great cover corners, while Aiyuk was getting open consistently.

Aiyuk is an actual WR. Deebo is an offensive weapon. If they choose Deebo over Aiyuk, it's about a difference in money, because Aiyuk is the better player all things even.


I disagree. The last healthy season Deebo had, he put up 1400 receiving yards (plus another 350 on the ground).

If they value Aiyuk over Deebo, it’ll be due to the fact that Deebo’s role in their offense is more likely to lead to him getting hurt than Aiyuk’s traditional usage.

staylor26 07-20-2024 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17593327)
I disagree. The last healthy season Deebo had, he put up 1400 receiving yards (plus another 350 on the ground).

If they value Aiyuk over Deebo, it’ll be due to the fact that Deebo’s role in their offense is more likely to lead to him getting hurt than Aiyuk’s traditional usage.

Because you're clueless.

Again, watch the SB tape. One guy couldn't get open while the other was doing it consistently. I understand Deebo is a valuable weapon, but weapons aren't more valuable than legit WR1s that can run a full route tree and separate consistently.

And just pointing to his 1,400 yard season means nothing. Why do you constantly do this? "Blake Bortles is a good QB because he threw 30+ TDs". Stats mean nothing without context. Deebo is what he is. He's a playmaker and he's fantastic with the ball in his hands. He racks up receiving yardage after the catch. He's not a route runner or separator though, and those guys are more valuable.

staylor26 07-20-2024 05:59 PM

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Matt Barrows, from The Athletic, recently shared his insights on the topic during an interview with Bay Area radio station KNBR.

"If it came down to Deebo Samuel or Brandon Aiyuk, I think they go with Brandon Aiyuk because he's on the same page as Brock Purdy," Barrows said. "We saw that chemistry all year long. They seemed perfect for each other. They seem made for each other, whereas Deebo Samuel had some absolutely terrific games this season but didn't seem to have the same passing chemistry. A lot of his yards were short passes that he creates yards after the catch."
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Megatron96 07-20-2024 06:04 PM

Deebo was hurt during the SB. First half, iirc. First, he reinjured his shoulder, then his hamstring.


Which is the problem with keeping Deebo over Aiyuk; he's had a recent history of injuries.


But from a football perspective, I think I'd rather keep Deebo; he's more versatile. Shanahan can line up Deebo in the slot, out wide, in the backfield, even at the H and T. He's not the pure WR that Aiyuk is, but from a coach's perspective you can find more uses for him. Also, when you look at SF's statistical efficiency over the last few seasons, Deebo makes more of a difference than Aiyuk, iirc.

staylor26 07-20-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17593373)
Deebo was hurt during the SB. First half, iirc. First, he reinjured his shoulder, then his hamstring.


Which is the problem with keeping Deebo over Aiyuk; he's had a recent history of injuries.


But from a football perspective, I think I'd rather keep Deebo; he's more versatile. Shanahan can line up Deebo in the slot, out wide, in the backfield, even at the H and T. He's not the pure WR that Aiyuk is, but from a coach's perspective you can find more uses for him. Also, when you look at SF's statistical efficiency over the last few seasons, Deebo makes more of a difference than Aiyuk, iirc.

Bullshit excuse if this is your argument against my point. Healthy or not, he's not getting open on that play against McDuffie in the endzone 9 times out of 10. McDuffie and Sneed had little trouble covering him.

Deebo has never been a route runner or separator. That's not who he is, and he will never be that guy.

He's a very valuable weapon, but he's essentially a WR/RB tweener, and that's not as valuable as a legitimate WR that can run a full route tree and separate consistently.

If all things were even, the 49ers would still 100% choose Aiyuk over Deebo.

ThaVirus 07-20-2024 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17593360)
Because you're clueless.

Again, watch the SB tape. One guy couldn't get open while the other was doing it consistently. I understand Deebo is a valuable weapon, but weapons aren't more valuable than legit WR1s that can run a full route tree and separate consistently.

And just pointing to his 1,400 yard season means nothing. Why do you constantly do this? "Blake Bortles is a good QB because he threw 30+ TDs". Stats mean nothing without context. Deebo is what he is. He's a playmaker and he's fantastic with the ball in his hands. He racks up receiving yardage after the catch. He's not a route runner or separator though, and those guys are more valuable.


“Both of these guys have 4+ years worth of games but look at this one in particular that fits my narrative” lol

You’re such a clown.

The reason this guy is open consistently is because he’s the fourth option on a stacked offense.

No one goes into a game against the 9ers worried about Aiyuk. They’re checking for CMC first, then Deebo, then Kittle.

Megatron96 07-20-2024 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17593377)
Bullshit excuse is this is your argument against my point. He's not getting open on that play against McDuffie in the endzone 9 times out of 10 if he's health either. McDuffie and Sneed had little trouble covering him.

Deebo has never been a route runner or separator. That's not who he is, and he will never be that guy.

He's a very valuable weapon, but he's essentially a WR/RB tweener, and that's not as valuable as a legitimate WR that can run a full route tree and separate consistently.



It was a fact. Deebo suffered a shoulder injury earlier in the year that kept him from playing for a few games. Then he reinjured it in the NFCCG, I think. Then he injured his hammy. Now, I don't know about you, but I can't run very well/fast when I tweak my hammy. And in that "Receiver" show, Deebo told one of his trainers on camera that he couldn't move his left arm without experiencing a lot of pain (I think, might've been a teammate).

Now, we agree that Aiyuk is the better WR. It's just my opinion that Deebo is the more versatile weapon. Ymmv.


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