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TLO 01-14-2024 08:28 PM

**** OFFICIAL Refs you SUCK thread ****
 
I think we can all agree NFL officiating has been BAD this year. How does the NFL fix this?

scho63 01-14-2024 08:31 PM

BAD, is so kind to what we have witnessed.

It may be the worst in my history of watching the NFL.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-14-2024 08:33 PM

That false start call on the Lions before the half totally changed the game... I have the Lions -3.5 and calls like that will wreck the league. They need to fix this shit, it was as bad as it can be this year.

New World Order 01-14-2024 08:34 PM

I remember all the bitching about the replacement refs years ago.

They’re just as bad

scho63 01-14-2024 08:35 PM

The dramatic inconsistency of what is a penalty and what is not or what is a catch and what is not or what is a fumble or what is not is impossible to gauge from game to game.

They fact that a defensive back from Green Bay could jump on the back of a Kansas City Chiefs receiver 2 seconds before the ball arrived and tackled him to the ground with no penalty told me all I had to know for the 2024 season.

Womble 01-14-2024 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17337713)
The dramatic inconsistency of what is a penalty and what is not or what is a catch and what is not or what is a fumble or what is not is impossible to gauge from game to game.

They fact that a defensive back from Green Bay could jump on the back of a Kansas City Chiefs receiver 2 seconds before the ball arrived and tackled him to the ground with no penalty told me all I had to know for the 2024 season.

Can't call a PI in that scenario because the pass was to MVS and therefore it was deemed uncatchable.

Frazod 01-14-2024 08:49 PM

There really needs to be a booth official who can override the obvious inexcusable blunders committed by the idiots on the field.

But that will never happen.

Pablo 01-14-2024 08:51 PM

ARAB

I'm not gonna feel bad when one of these dipshits ruins an entire fanbases' dreams and ends up beaten to a pulp or worse. People can find you reeeeeaalll easy nowadays.

New World Order 01-14-2024 08:52 PM

That was an obvious PI

TLO 01-14-2024 08:52 PM

I think a logical first step is having full time officials. The NFL can afford to pay a group of men/women that aren't lawyers and librarians or whatever who only do this part time.

displacedinMN 01-14-2024 08:53 PM

an abomination on all levels of football this year.

BigCatDaddy 01-14-2024 08:53 PM

It's hard to say because they won't admit to ****ing up so we don't know why they are ****ing up. If we don't know why it's hard to provide solution

lawrenceRaider 01-14-2024 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337762)
I think a logical first step is having full time officials. The NFL can afford to pay a group of men/women that aren't lawyers and librarians or whatever who only do this part time.

Full time refs who are actual athletes that understand the game. Way too simple.

TheGreatCassholio 01-14-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17337753)
There really needs to be a booth official who can override the obvious inexcusable blunders committed by the idiots on the field.

But that will never happen.

Some kind of remote taser attached to their caps that the booth can trigger to drop them on the spot and overturn the F up

displacedinMN 01-14-2024 09:00 PM

the NFL covering their asses after the offensive offsides on the Chiefs is all you need to know

the number of calls the next weeks after that was far above average

Molitoth 01-14-2024 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337685)
How does the NFL fix this?

Simple.

Allow more calls to be challenged.

TLO 01-14-2024 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17337785)
Simple.

Allow more calls to be challenged.

They tried that didn't they? Went away from it after one season.

Pablo 01-14-2024 09:07 PM

puka got his shell cracked there

DJJasonp 01-14-2024 09:10 PM

“Inept” refs s a narrative the nfl wants to have plausible deniability.

If it was truly a problem for the badge, it would have been addressed a long time ago

kccrow 01-14-2024 09:12 PM

Younger, full-time officials. That's the solution.

Sorry, but a 55-60 year old attorney can't keep up with the speed of the game and see everything as well.

ChiefsFanatic 01-14-2024 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337685)
I think we can all agree NFL officiating has been BAD this year. How does the NFL fix this?

The NFL, and RG, have no intention of "fixing" officiating, because if they do, they can no longer "fix" spreads and outcomes for Draft Kings and FanDuel, and BetMGM, etc.

Why Not? 01-14-2024 09:36 PM

The NFL doesn’t care and nor do the fans. If we actually cared, we’d stop watching.

threebag 01-14-2024 10:10 PM

Don’t be mad, they’re just following the script

Chiefshrink 01-14-2024 10:21 PM

Nakua definitely was held there towards the end of the game that would've given them a first down and kept that drive going. That was a bad no call.

srvy 01-14-2024 10:35 PM

Aaron Glenn learned that cheap shit in his stint with NO coaching staff. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he didn't have bounties out.

RINGLEADER 01-15-2024 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17337713)
The dramatic inconsistency of what is a penalty and what is not or what is a catch and what is not or what is a fumble or what is not is impossible to gauge from game to game.

They fact that a defensive back from Green Bay could jump on the back of a Kansas City Chiefs receiver 2 seconds before the ball arrived and tackled him to the ground with no penalty told me all I had to know for the 2024 season.

There were abysmal calls in all of the playoff games this weekend and these are supposed to be the best of the best crews. What I don’t understand is why they don’t let an “eye in the sky” overturn what’s called on the field when it’s clearly wrong (the horse collar tackle or the false start that wasn’t today). It may not allow for judgement calls like the Taylor block in the back to be overturned but a lot of bad calls (Rice not getting the first down, etc) like these would be fixed nearly instantly if the league could buzz the refs and tell them they’re wrong whenever they’re wrong.

lawrenceRaider 01-15-2024 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337788)
They tried that didn't they? Went away from it after one season.

Refs just covered their own asses with the PI reviews.

Chief Roundup 01-15-2024 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17337757)
ARAB

I'm not gonna feel bad when one of these dipshits ruins an entire fanbases' dreams and ends up beaten to a pulp or worse. People can find you reeeeeaalll easy nowadays.

ARAB???

The rest of the post is just sad and awfully stupid. It is a game. It shouldn't be taken thst serious. People, fans, need to grow the **** up and find a real life if the outcome of one game or call can affect them like that.

Rausch 01-15-2024 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 17337813)
“Inept” refs s a narrative the nfl wants to have plausible deniability.

If it was truly a problem for the badge, it would have been addressed a long time ago

And there you go.

It's also used in politics...

KC_Lee 01-15-2024 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17337924)
The NFL, and RG, have no intention of "fixing" officiating, because if they do, they can no longer "fix" spreads and outcomes for Draft Kings and FanDuel, and BetMGM, etc.

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Chiefnj2 01-15-2024 07:28 AM

1. Put chips in the football for first downs.
2. Fewer cameras. It’s hard to be mad when you can’t see it clearly.
3. Replay is in real time. No slowing it down to a microsecond where the ball moves an eight of an inch that you could never see with the naked eye.
4. The worst thing they can do is slow down the game even more and have coaches challenge everything.

-King- 01-15-2024 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17337924)
The NFL, and RG, have no intention of "fixing" officiating, because if they do, they can no longer "fix" spreads and outcomes for Draft Kings and FanDuel, and BetMGM, etc.

So do you guys think the NFL fixed it for the chiefs to win the Superbowl 2 of the last 4 years? I just don't get why people just can't accept that reffing is extremely hard AND there are incompetent refs rather than assuming the refs have agendas and are fixing games.

-King- 01-15-2024 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337762)
I think a logical first step is having full time officials. The NFL can afford to pay a group of men/women that aren't lawyers and librarians or whatever who only do this part time.

Won't solve anything. NBA has full time officials. Still shitty.

Perineum Ripper 01-15-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17337820)
Younger, full-time officials. That's the solution.

Sorry, but a 55-60 year old attorney can't keep up with the speed of the game and see everything as well.

Take guys who can’t make it in the league, that get cut, ages 22-30. Send them to school, teach them all the rules. Have them on a full time pay, and going to rules meetings.

Then you have young guys, who have the speed, the knowledge of the game, and they do it for a living. Not just part time retired old ****s

KCUnited 01-15-2024 07:52 AM

A bunch of cut ex-players officiating, what could go wrong

SD15 01-15-2024 07:55 AM

Maybe it’s time for AI Refs

Buehler445 01-15-2024 09:24 AM

I'm here to say whatever the answer is, it needs to include a full audit. Get KPMG or Toilet and Douche to come in and do a full audit. Bank recs all the way to cash management.

You want gambling money? Hide it from a team of CPAs.

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-15-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17337685)
I think we can all agree NFL officiating has been BAD this year. How does the NFL fix this?

They won't.

Until fans walk away, it won't change.

We complain about it. Then we watch the next week.

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-15-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17338217)
There were abysmal calls in all of the playoff games this weekend and these are supposed to be the best of the best crews. What I don’t understand is why they don’t let an “eye in the sky” overturn what’s called on the field when it’s clearly wrong (the horse collar tackle or the false start that wasn’t today). It may not allow for judgement calls like the Taylor block in the back to be overturned but a lot of bad calls (Rice not getting the first down, etc) like these would be fixed nearly instantly if the league could buzz the refs and tell them they’re wrong whenever they’re wrong.

The USFL did that.

It was awesome.

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-15-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 17338224)
Refs just covered their own asses with the PI reviews.

Gruden proved that. He threw the challenge flag five or six weeks in a row on obvious PI. No change.

The refs and replay officials protected each other.

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-15-2024 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17338225)
ARAB???

The rest of the post is just sad and awfully stupid. It is a game. It shouldn't be taken thst serious. People, fans, need to grow the **** up and find a real life if the outcome of one game or call can affect them like that.

It isn't a game. It is a business.

That is why fans shouldn't take it seriously but when folks are spending and betting thousands of dollars; reason disappears.

Molitoth 01-15-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17338288)
4. The worst thing they can do is slow down the game even more and have coaches challenge everything.

Obviously there has to be a limit to what and how many challenges can be used... but it would be nice to be able to challenge Pass Interference and other bullshit calls we've seen over the years that cost us big games. Remember the roughing the passer against Brady where a hand barely touches his shoulderpad?

You wait all week for a 3 hour football game. Is an extra 15 minutes of getting calls right just not worth your time?
If a game goes into overtime, do you just stop watching because it's already been 3 hours?

displacedinMN 01-15-2024 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17338587)
They won't.

Until fans walk away, it won't change.

We complain about it. Then we watch the next week.

someone else in another thread said almost the same thing


If the NFL wanted to fix it, they would.


BTW-it was not a fair catch

PunkinDrublic 01-15-2024 06:24 PM

The most inept officials seem to get the marquee games. Ron Torbert, Carl Cheffers have both been rewarded with being able to work the Super Bowl. The more we bitch about them the more the league rewards them. Fans should absolutely make them fear for their safety.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-15-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17340405)
The most inept officials seem to get the marquee games. Ron Torbert, Carl Cheffers have both been rewarded with being able to work the Super Bowl. The more we bitch about them the more the league rewards them. Fans should absolutely make them fear for their safety.

Read your post and really let it sink in. Think about what you’re saying.

They aren’t inept. They are doing exactly what the league wants. Why in the living hell can’t people figure this out?

King_Chief_Fan 01-15-2024 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17340429)
Read your post and really let it sink in. Think about what you’re saying.

They aren’t inept. They are doing exactly what the league wants. Why in the living hell can’t people figure this out?

Bingo!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-15-2024 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17340405)
The most inept officials seem to get the marquee games. Ron Torbert, Carl Cheffers have both been rewarded with being able to work the Super Bowl. The more we bitch about them the more the league rewards them. Fans should absolutely make them fear for their safety.

Since they aren't held accountable, the only explanation is they are doing as told

TLO 01-15-2024 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17340429)
Read your post and really let it sink in. Think about what you’re saying.

They aren’t inept. They are doing exactly what the league wants. Why in the living hell can’t people figure this out?

It does make you wonder.

crazycoffey 01-15-2024 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 17337774)
Full time refs who are actual athletes that understand the game. Way too simple.

Retired players

FloridaMan88 01-15-2024 10:24 PM

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cmh6476 04-10-2025 08:37 PM

3 refs fired

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...y-be-addressed

The league fired three officials in what footballzebras.com described as vice president of officiating training and development Ramon George “advancing accountability among the officiating ranks,” following a postseason that included several notable referee controversies.

In a deviation from normal standards, though, the referees received soft landings, being sent to college football power conferences due to George’s maneuvering, per the report.

Dismissed officials reportedly had no such landing spot previously.

Carter served as an alternate official during the wild-card round this past season, with footballzebras.com speculating it may have been due to injuries, while DeLorenzo did not earn any postseason assignments and Richardson could not referee in the postseason due to his freshman status.

These moves come as George has pushed for using “data as a performance guide,” a source told the outlet.


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