Most Valuable Receiver in 2023?
 

Good morning Chiefsplanet,

With so many new faces to the WR room, I'm having a hard time predicting which receiver is going to have the greatest impact on the offense for this upcoming season. Going into training camp I think most would have agreed that it was going to be Toney's time to shine especially after his Super Bowl heroics.

Now with the season a week away, the tone has shifted due to Toney again not being able to stay on the field. Who do you think will become Pat's favorite non Kelce target in 2023?

Richie James.

Least valuable Kadarius Toney.

You left off Watson.

Probably Moore, but I'm hoping it's Ross

I went with MVS. He's the only WR on the roster who has actually balled out in the postseason for KC.

Yeah most reliable is Marquez.

Then the optimistic in me says tooney for who is/should be most valuable, but this year will either confirm or change my idea on that forever.

By design.

Hard to go against MVS after that title game performance when our receivers were dropping like flies.

What was it like 6/116 and that laser td he caught sitting on his ass?

Patrick and MVS were eyelashes away from connecting on several big plays last season. I believe as hard as Mahomes works to better every aspect of his game, his timing with MVS will be better and we will see those connect more often this year.

Somebody is going to take off. Week 3 or 4 one of these guys(wtf knows which one) is gonna have a Over-The-Top performance of 150 yrd+ and 2td+ and Pat's gonna fix him up as WR1 going forward. If I had to guess, I pick Ross. And that's wild, because I have not been on the Ross train that so many here have been on, but all of a sudden, in this moment, I have a gut feeling.

I think Moore is the safe pick. I think he's going to be fed a lot of underneath routes and used similarly to how they used JuJu last year. I expect him to be a reliable target with a high catch rate.

I don't think he has any elements of his game that will dazzle you the way Toney/Rice/James/Ross can, but i do think he'll reliably be in the right place and make the catch when it's thrown to him.

MVS/Toney/Rice/James are gonna be very boom or bust on any given play/Sunday etc.

I have some unwavering faith that Toney explodes thisyear.

Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers never got his timing down with MVS either.

Here's hoping, but I'm not convinced.

Fair point, but remember that Rodgers isn't, and has never been as good as Mahomes.

I'm still going with 10 or 12 good to great regular season games from Toney and 5 to 7 inactives.

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Watson's gonna make you regret the snub.

Midway through this season Rice will be a force!

Skyy Moore most valuable and least will be Watson

Then how do I cast my vote for him?

I'll go with James. He'll be the shifty guy who breaks defensive schemes.

It's Toney in a landslide, if I could count on Toney staying healthy for the entire season, or even just 14 games. He's the most complete WR on the team, with the best hands (I know, there's no such thing as having good/bad hands in the NFL), can play either inside or outside equally effectively, and can consistently beat press, even jams.


But, I'll have to see Toney play 14+ games in a season before I can believe it, so it has to be Skyy Moore. He's going to get force-fed a ton of opportunities, if we can believe all the offseason/preseason hype (and there's no reason not to), so he should be the most valuable WR just by the sheer volume of targets he's going to see.

Same. I HOPE one of the other guys can step up, but if we're just playing the odds, MVS is the most LIKELY candidate.

I'm putting my vote in for Skyy but hoping like hell Ross makes a huge impact

I would like to see that as well. But he is 7th on the depth chart. I'm afraid that he won't even be active unless a couple of guys are out hurt.

Really? Because that has not been his forte to date.

His hands are good.

And yeah, he wasn't in the right places last year, but im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one and chalking it up to rookie year learning.

Using his quickness to quickly find and fill soft spots in zones HAS to be his thing this year. If that doesn't develop, then im not sure he's gonna have a "thing" here.

If he's problematic i think he'll quickly concede snaps, likely to James and Rice.

Yep, 100%. He had the most trouble understanding how/where to settle into the soft spots in zone last season; he has to make a big leap with that this year, or his targets are simply going to drop off a small cliff.

Non-answer.

I think WR yardage is going to be pretty close, gameplan specific, and largely irrelevant to the success of this offense.

The question is, "Most Valuable Receiver in 2023?"

Travis Kelce of course.

If the question is, "Most Valuable Wide Receiver in 2023?"

It will be interesting to see who dresses for games each week.

Watson will probably miss a few games because he is close to the bottom in value as a receiver.

If Rice continues his preseason trend of dropping passes, will find himself on the bench and watching.

Ross may find himself on bench to begin season only because the Chiefs have seven WRs which means, MVS, Moore, Toney, James (return man), and Rice probably dress for first games.

Toney will get hurt later which will allow Ross to be on game day roster and then watch out.

Ross will be the best WR by middle of season.

100% agree and think Moore will get those 101 targets JuJu got last year.

It also doesn't hurt Veach on the subject this week:

Chiefs GM Brett Veach said today Rashee Rice/Justyn Ross would start out as "package" players. The hope is they produce enough to graduate & become every-down WRs later in season. Right now, Skyy Moore is one of those every-down guys. Veach expects a "big jump" from Skyy this yr.

You vote in one of your replies, bookmark the thread, and make the OP eat crow when you are right.

Duh.

I am going to change my mind.

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James because of his ability as a return man, his ability to get open long will lesson MVS's superpower, his consistent ability to make clutch catches at an 80% rate will put him over the top and James will be the MVP of receivers.

Justyn Ross.

Rashee rices drops scare me and I think they do Andy too.

One dropped pass that’s tipped and intercepted can cost a game.

Andy barely trusted skyy all rookie year. Would shock me if rice gets anything more than “running back at wr” treatment for a while.

Also- rice looks incredible with ball in hands. Seems like he’d make a good kr and pr

Has to be Skyy Moore, followed by Justyn Ross, then Richie James. MVS and Toney I believe will have some big time plays, but the three guys I mentioned will be the chain movers who Pat looks to (aside from Kelce obviously) in the key situations.

I just went based on volume of catches and I think a lot will be going James way. He catches most everything thrown to him so will be that reliable target in times of need.

I'm not that worried. If you remember most thought Ja'Marr Chase was a bust because his rookie year he had multiple drops in a couple of preseason games. He turned out ok.

Toney being the number 1 receiver has "free dumb looks" written all over the decision.

The only correct answer is Justyn Ross 😁

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Hot take

Ross explodes and he already has been learning the system and now it's time to ball out

I think Skyy Moore has the lowest amount of yards for our wide receivers

I'd have picked Toney but the injuries are concerning

McKinnon should be in this conversation

I've been driving the bus on the AFCCG unlocking MVS.

This is my vote.

I’d be delighted to see 5 receivers with between 500 and 800 yards each and Kelce with another 1200. Add in the running backs and spare WR and TE’s and 5000 yards is in the bag. People keep thinking there has to be a dominant WR. With a deep WR room, Kelce, and Mahomes, we really don’t need a dominant WR target to emerge. Our current set up is harder to defend and will leverage and enhance Mahomes’ strength in reading defenses.

I'm hoping Reid load manages Kelce a bit. He'll get his, but it would be nice if he didn't have to be the sole focus of the defense.

That's where I am at.

I don't mind WR by committee but would like to see some load management for Kelce.

And on third downs, maybe you don't need a WR1, but you kind of want to know somebody will get open and that somebody will catch the ball and keep the drive alive.

We should find out soon!

Ross

They lined him up in the slot against NO and he feasted. They put him on the outside vs CLE and are heavily. There's nothing he can't do.

Richie mother****ing James!

I get the excitement about Ross, but CP has fallen in love with a training camp star basically every year, and they rarely work out. He'll be lucky to even be active most game days. He's got potential, but so did Jody Fortson.

I'm going with MVS only because he's a proven vet. While I'd like to see Moore, Rice, and Ross all hit 1K yards, I don't believe it's going to happen this year. If Toney can stay healthy, he'd be a close 2nd.

Seriously. I mean, just logically, Ross would have to leapfrog over two other guys just to have the chance to suit up every week. And even then, he might not get a target in a game. Or several games. Just by sheer bad luck.


And then there's the fact that in a handful of snaps vs. Denzel Ward Last week, Ross couldn't create an inch of separation, and caught zero balls vs. Ward.

Bottom line, he's got to get on the field regularly first. Then we'll just see.

His gameplay or his body?

That's going to be Skyy Moore.

Ross is going to be the guy that even when he isn't open, he's open.

To be fair, Fortson just could never stay on the field.

Watson is the insurance policy for Rice, Ross, and MVS. But they know what Watson is, and what the ceiling is. He can play 'up' a bit for a stretch, but he is what he is.

I think they'll give Rice and Ross a lot of looks, and more as the season goes on.

I just don't see the ceiling with Skyy. Good solid player but if hes our leading WR we are in deep ****ing shit.

Juju was out leading WR last year, on one functioning knee. Just how much ceiling was there? Number one offense in the NFL.

We needed every bit of it, too. Juju was a fantastic value and player for us. As I said before last season as well, if MVS would have been our leading WR and not Juju we would have been in trouble. By in trouble for this team I mean not winning the #1 seed or just being a wildcard team.

Ross. Toney is not going to last the whole season (I LOVE him but his history of injuries states otherwise). Skyy is questionable to me - flashes but needs, to me, another season. I see why the Chiefs elected to add 7 WRs to the 53. We will have to wait and see how this plays out. I hope ALL have an incredible season!

this time it's going to work!

Ross will be our Randy Moss. :thumb:

Juju in '22 was a solid professional, but pretty limited.

Skyy should be better.

Toney will miss 4 games but will still be the most valuable receiver.

dunno what makes you all think moore is the guy here. unless proven otherwise its toney and when he's out it's mvs. moore has shown absolute nil so far for him to be crowned anything yet.

hell personally, i think rice has a better year than moore but that's a different discussion based off pure speculation on my end.

I will suck your balls harder than Billay if Skyy averages more than 60 yards a game. If there is anyone that may rise to the top and surprise ppl its Rice.

Richie James could be a sneaky player if he takes advantage of Toney being out.

Stats through 4 games:

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