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TLO 08-29-2023 06:38 PM

Week 1 - Let's talk about the Lions
 
Looks like the Chiefs are 6.5 point favorites according to Vegas.

How do you see this one playing out?

Molitoth 08-29-2023 06:39 PM

the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 06:42 PM

Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

tredadda 08-29-2023 06:45 PM

The Lions could be tough this year. It will all depend on if Goff improves or if he becomes Goof again. They have a lot of talent on offense so it will be a good test of our defense without Jones (most likely).

I think this offense will move the ball and score well against their defense although I am intrigued to see how our new Ts match up against Hutchinson.

If there was one team I would love to see win it all if KC doesn't it would be the Lions. That fanbase has suffered more than almost any other.

CasselGotPeedOn 08-29-2023 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17079305)
the Lions are my second fav team, but I'll be rooting my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

What kind of bundle of sticks ass shit is this?

Bearcat 08-29-2023 06:57 PM

Feels like the opener against the Cards... fake hype after the Lions *checks notes* beat two 9-win playoff teams and the looked-like-a-9-win-team Vikings.

Demonpenz 08-29-2023 06:57 PM

The last time the chiefs faced goff he went for 500

Delano 08-29-2023 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079309)
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs and TJ Hockenson (TE1) to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

Rainbarrel 08-29-2023 07:11 PM

Thanksgiving gets here earlier and earlier every year

In58men 08-29-2023 07:13 PM

It’ll come down to the wire like always.

It’ll be something like 24-28, Detroit has the ball with 1:26 left and 1 timeout. Chiefs get a turnover to seal the game.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17079342)
You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.



Weird. I literally just looked at their roster on ESPN and TJ was on there.

But you're right; I remember TJ going to MIN last year. My bad.

Coochie liquor 08-29-2023 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17079346)
It’ll come down to the wire like always.

It’ll be something like 24-28, Detroit has the ball with 1:26 left and 1 timeout. Chiefs get a turnover to seal the game.

I seenn no it more like Detroit has the lead late, but Pat pulls another rabbit outta his hat. In the form of a last second TD to Ross!

In58men 08-29-2023 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17079352)
I seenn no it more like Detroit has the lead late, but Pat pulls another rabbit outta his hat. In the form of a last second TD to Ross!

I will cum.

Cum will be everywhere.

Wisconsin_Chief 08-29-2023 07:23 PM

It’s going to be a boat race, the Lions are going to put up points on this defense without Jones. Chiefs can light up their defense even more though, so we should pull it out.

Going to be a fun one to start the year.

RollChiefsRoll 08-29-2023 07:24 PM

**** THEM

Raiderhater 08-29-2023 07:26 PM

Celebrating the SB win in prime time, and this time with a full and rowdy house…

I think the Chiefs dominate Detroit like they did Houston in the 2020 kick off special.

Bearcat 08-29-2023 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079309)
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.


And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.

So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit? :spock:

Easy 6 08-29-2023 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17079315)
If there was one team I would love to see win it all if KC doesn't it would be the Lions. That fanbase has suffered more than almost any other.

True that

TwistedChief 08-29-2023 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17079342)
You might want to check which roster TJ Hockenson is actually on.

How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

Red Dawg 08-29-2023 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17079358)
It’s going to be a boat race, the Lions are going to put up points on this defense without Jones. Chiefs can light up their defense even more though, so we should pull it out.

Going to be a fun one to start the year.

With or without Jones teams have put up pints on us.

ToxSocks 08-29-2023 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17079372)
With or without Jones teams have put up pints on us.

As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17079367)
So, we can also remove 6 of those Ws for Detroit? :spock:



Well, I guess if you want to.:hmmm:

The point is that KC doesn't regularly blow other teams out. Hasn't been a thing for a couple three years now. It happens here and there, but there's no real consistency about it.

And when they don't blow teams out, the games tend to be pretty close. Nothing in between really.

If there was, I'd have a lot more $$$ in my sportsbook acct right now . . .

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-29-2023 07:38 PM

Will all 7 WRs dress on Sunday? Will all see the field? How will it play out?

Simply Red 08-29-2023 07:39 PM

Hello - Love KC in this one!

Megatron96 08-29-2023 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17079376)
Will all 7 WRs dress on Sunday? Will all see the field? How will it play out?



Hmm. I'm all out of magic 8-balls . . .

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-29-2023 07:44 PM

Absolutely love the Lions but Mahomes pulls this one out, I expect MVS and Skyy to have a huge game along with Kelce. Our defense will get ran through like Swiss cheese and it’s gonna be a shootout. Goff vs Mahomes 2!! I predict 41-45 Chiefs

smithandrew051 08-29-2023 07:45 PM

Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-29-2023 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17079357)
I will cum.

Cum will be everywhere.

You mean like, In 58 Men ??

KC Hawks 08-29-2023 07:49 PM

I think should every team except the KC Chiefs should kill themselves

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-29-2023 07:50 PM

I really, really, really wanted Gibbs to fall to us, he would have been a perfect fit. I hope Bolton is on point .

Delano 08-29-2023 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17079371)
How can one spend that much time posting about a team when one isn't even aware that the weapon was traded to the Vikings at the deadline last season? And was the focus for Cousins on the most crucial down of the entire season?

Now, if you want to say Sam Laporta could be every bit the player Hockenson was, I'm on board with that. He's going to be very, very good.

I'm really glad Jameson Williams isn't playing. I hope they haven't figured out how to utilize Gibbs yet. Andy Reid is really, really good when he has time to gameplan for teams like this. Goff can be rattled and Spags is going to have to get awfully creative without Chris Jones being a normal part of the DL.

It could be tough. It's so impossible to know.

Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.

The Lions have such a good line and it’s going to test Spags’ scheme changes with the front 7 minus Jones. Gibbs and Montgomery could really challenge the Chiefs but you hope they’re very diversely skilled linebackers can lock them down.

I’m really curious if Reid will call a ball control type offense or if they’ll try to put up 35+ a game. Jones missing could impact things in so many ways.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 17079394)
I think should every team except the KC Chiefs should kill themselves



Um, then there wouldn't be a league. So, no Super bowls.

sounds very boring.

Skyy God 08-29-2023 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17079303)
Looks like the Chiefs are 6.5 point favorites according to Vegas.

How do you see this one playing out?

Kicked the gambling habit, eh??

In58men 08-29-2023 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17079392)
You mean like, In 58 Men ??

Yes and you’re part of the 58, congratulations!

Skyy God 08-29-2023 07:53 PM

Also, Chiefs gonna eat all their kneecaps.

Simply Red 08-29-2023 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17079385)
Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

Thinking Mahomes will throw for 420 yards!

lewdog 08-29-2023 08:00 PM

I'm not sure who's going to be the bigger disappointment this year....The Lions, The Jets or Chris Jones?!?!?!

Titty Meat 08-29-2023 08:02 PM

Should be a good game Lions catching us at an interesting time with injuries and hold outs.

In58men 08-29-2023 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17079421)
I'm not sure who's going to be the bigger disappointment this year....The Lions, The Jets or Chris Jones?!?!?!

Your mom actually…..it’ll be your mom.

Bump 08-29-2023 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17079412)
Thinking Mahomes will throw for 420 yards!

to just the tight end and another 420 to our 7 receivers

Megatron96 08-29-2023 08:05 PM

I actually hope it's a good competitive game. Always had a little soft spot for DET since they drafted Barry.

Also, it's the first game of the season. It would be nice if it was exciting. Even a little nerve-wracking.

Titty Meat 08-29-2023 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17079385)
Chiefs win a close one. 69-0

LMAO!!!

TLO 08-29-2023 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17079404)
Kicked the gambling habit, eh??

Sure have. Going on 60 days. I never bet on sports, but the Vegas lines always intrigue me.

notorious 08-29-2023 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079434)
I actually hope it's a good competitive game. Always had a little soft spot for DET since they drafted Barry.

Also, it's the first game of the season. It would be nice if it was exciting. Even a little nerve-wracking.

I hope the Chiefs stomp a mudhole in their ass and 90% of the world tunes out of the broadcast.

Skyy God 08-29-2023 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17079438)
Sure have. Going on 60 days. I never bet on sports, but the Vegas lines always intrigue me.

Good work, keep it up.

carcosa 08-29-2023 08:21 PM

KC Chiefs will win

Raiderhater 08-29-2023 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17079439)
I hope the Chiefs stomp a mudhole in their ass and 90% of the world tunes out of the broadcast.

Yes please.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-29-2023 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17079407)
Yes and you’re part of the 58, congratulations!

:thumb:

FloridaMan88 08-29-2023 08:25 PM

Andy Reid vs Dan Campbell… anytime… but especially week one… is a coaching mismatch to put it mildly.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17079398)
Have to assume it was a brain fog moment… I hope. That was a big trade down the stretch last year.

!00%. total brainfart. On multiple levels.

Chris Meck 08-29-2023 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079309)
Holy God, thank you.

Forget the spread. KC has been terrible about covering for the last couple years. Plus, the Chiefs only managed 6 double-digit Ws in 2022. Take out those games, and the average margin of victory for KC was about 3 points.

IIrc, DET is going to be missing a few players that would've been possible difference makers, i think due to injury?

of course, we'll be missing CJ. Possibly Toney. Depends on how much he practices next week and how well, I'd imagine.


i think the game will be a lot closer than it should be, due to CJ's absence. Not just because of his pass-rushing either. He's become the best run-stuffer on the DL as well, and DET likes to run the ball. That should narrow the margin somewhat for DET.

And we can't forget that DET won 8 of their last 10 in 2022, in large part due to their defense coming together.


And their offense is credible. Goff can play the position, and while not elite, he can stand and deliver passes anywhere on the field, if not harassed too much. It helps that he has a nice array of WRs to throw to, and a solid RB corps to take some of the heat off of him.


However, it's Week 1, and I expect DET to come out a bit rusty. Chiefs usually come out pretty good in the opener, so I expect the Chief to win, though by 3-4, not 7.

Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Megatron96 08-29-2023 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17079480)
Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .

IowaHawkeyeChief 08-29-2023 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17079373)
As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

We'll drown if they do...

Megatron96 08-29-2023 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17079373)
As long as they dont put up gallons we'll be alright.

:)

Hammock Parties 08-29-2023 09:02 PM

The Lions still have a terrible defense.

I see a 38-27ish type game that's close for awhile until the Chiefs lay down the law in the 4th.

We're not letting the banner drop be tarnished.

Megatron96 08-29-2023 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17079480)
Good gods, man, you keep doing this -

Chiefs won "only 6 games by double digits"

You mean like HALF?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079481)
Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .



Yeah, so I did some research, and KC played a full regular season slate in 2022 (I knew it!!!!), which is 17 games, not 12. So 6 games out of 17 games . . . carry the 1 . . . that's not half (50%), but actually 35% (6/17).

But my post was with gambling and the spread in mind, so I was really thinking about the reg season plus playoffs, which, as I stated, is really 20 games played in 2022. Was pretty sure about that one, since I bet on nearly every game last year.

Now, in doing that research I found that I missed the SEA game, so it wasn't 6 games, but 7 games KC won by double-digits.

But that's still just 35%, when considering every actual game played, 20.

So, no, not HALF.

Hope that clear.:)

Pepe Silvia 08-29-2023 10:20 PM

Barry Sanders isn’t running through that door.

big nasty kcnut 08-29-2023 10:25 PM

CHIEFS 90 DETROIT 0 Let the fun begin.

MMXcalibur 08-29-2023 10:33 PM

This is going to be our toughest game to date on the season.

The Lions are coming in undefeated and we haven't won a game. Hope we can hang with 'em and make it interesting in the 4th quarter.

ptlyon 08-29-2023 10:36 PM

Interesting. I don't see where the CJ news has moved the line.

smithandrew051 08-29-2023 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 17079547)
CHIEFS 90 DETROIT 0 Let the fun begin.

Only if you start the GDT

George Liquor 08-29-2023 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMXcalibur (Post 17079554)
This is going to be our toughest game to date on the season.

The Lions are coming in undefeated and we haven't won a game. Hope we can hang with 'em and make it interesting in the 4th quarter.

Season is over. Won't sniff the playoffs

gordonelloyd 08-29-2023 11:07 PM

Who is going to be our WR 1.

Tribal Warfare 08-29-2023 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17079571)
Who is going to be our WR 1.

Outside of Kelce it'll probably be MVS

BleedingRed 08-30-2023 12:27 AM

I needed this thread

BossChief 08-30-2023 12:29 AM

We are superior at damn near every position.

Our offense has a chance to put the league on notice with close to a 50 point opening performance and I can see the defense giving up half that to their offense.

BossChief 08-30-2023 12:30 AM

We are superior at damn near every position.

Our offense has a chance to put the league on notice with close to a 50 point opening performance and I can see the defense giving up half that to their offense.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-30-2023 02:40 AM

With no Omenihu or Jones Goff should have time to throw. I expect our secondary to play well regardless. I'm looking forward to seeing Felix and George on the field at the same time.

The offense shouldn't have any trouble breaking 30 points. Skyy didn't get much work in Preseason. We need him to find his groove. It's his time now.

Going to be a lot of fun

BANNER!!!

TwistedChief 08-30-2023 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17079594)
We are superior at damn near every position.

I'm not that familiar with the Lions, but off the top of my head, I'd take Aidan Hutchinson over any of our edge rushers and Aman-Ra St Brown over any of our receivers.

Bearcat 08-30-2023 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079495)
Yeah, so I did some research, and KC played a full regular season slate in 2022 (I knew it!!!!), which is 17 games, not 12. So 6 games out of 17 games . . . carry the 1 . . . that's not half (50%), but actually 35% (6/17).

But my post was with gambling and the spread in mind, so I was really thinking about the reg season plus playoffs, which, as I stated, is really 20 games played in 2022. Was pretty sure about that one, since I bet on nearly every game last year.

Now, in doing that research I found that I missed the SEA game, so it wasn't 6 games, but 7 games KC won by double-digits.

But that's still just 35%, when considering every actual game played, 20.

So, no, not HALF.

Hope that clear.:)

In terms if the Lions, it would probably make more sense to see how many games they won by double digits against non-playoff teams... since the Lions aren't the Bills, Bengals, 49ers, Jags.

Unless they are, I guess. :shrug:

Chris Meck 08-30-2023 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17079481)
Did we play a 12 game season? Could've sworn the Chiefs played 20 games . . .

Chiefs were 5th in win margin.

Chris Meck 08-30-2023 05:23 AM

Anyway, I think The Lions are probably going to be a playoff team. It's a worthy opponent

chiefzilla1501 08-30-2023 06:45 AM

I feel like more and more there is a wider spread between old school coaches who put on a well run camp and those who don’t. Maybe Campbell runs a good offseason but his team has opened the season poorly since he’s been coach. Since mahomes took over we’ve won the opening game by 10+ all but one season (where we won by 2 vs the browns) and a few like last year were an embarrassing display of catching an unprepared team off guard. our early season preparation is always going to be a huge pro for us.

Skyy God 08-30-2023 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17079603)
I'm not that familiar with the Lions, but off the top of my head, I'd take Aidan Hutchinson over any of our edge rushers and Aman-Ra St Brown over any of our receivers.

Furious George, especially the back half, played similarly to Hutch last year.

And our WR corps >>> theirs.

CoMoChief 08-30-2023 07:16 AM

These arent your daddy's Lions.

Hope the Chiefs don't take them lightly. Its the home opener so hopefully they're jacked up for it.

Skyy God 08-30-2023 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17079639)
These arent your daddy's Lions.

Hope the Chiefs don't take them lightly. Its the home opener so hopefully they're jacked up for it.

They had a good last half of the season. Then they spent their firsts on a midget RB and an off ball LB and had last year’s #1 suspended for gambling.

Prime regression candidate. Late season momentum rarely carries over.

TwistedChief 08-30-2023 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17079635)
Furious George, especially the back half, played similarly to Hutch last year.

And our WR corps >>> theirs.

I am curious what Karlaftis does this year if Jones doesn't show up. Could be a lot rougher if he starts seeing double teams (which he struggled with in college). Just in general I am really reluctant to project any of our DL out from last year if Jones isn't playing as I think he made everyone else's life a lot easier.

As for WR corps, are you sure? I can say with certainty that I feel better with Mahomes throwing to our WRs versus Goff throwing to his, but I'm not sure our WRs in isolation ex-Mahomes are clearly better (especially if we're talking about an up-to-speed Jameson Williams whom we happily get to avoid).

RunKC 08-30-2023 08:16 AM

Aidan Hutchinson is gonna test our new tackles early. If he can't get consistent pressure on Patrick it's game over. It's as simple as that.

Their OL could pummel our DL which could keep them in the game.

Skyy God 08-30-2023 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17079649)
I am curious what Karlaftis does this year if Jones doesn't show up. Could be a lot rougher if he starts seeing double teams (which he struggled with in college). Just in general I am really reluctant to project any of our DL out from last year if Jones isn't playing as I think he made everyone else's life a lot easier.

As for WR corps, are you sure? I can say with certainty that I feel better with Mahomes throwing to our WRs versus Goff throwing to his, but I'm not sure our WRs in isolation ex-Mahomes are clearly better (especially if we're talking about an up-to-speed Jameson Williams whom we happily get to avoid).

We were wildly the most efficient offense last year. Our WRs have another year to learn Andy’s system, and we added high talent guys in Rice and James.

People are sleeping on them due to lack of past production.

“ The Chiefs had the best offense last season, and it wasn’t close. They ranked first in expected points added per drive, and the difference between them and the second-ranked Eagles was the same as the difference between the Eagles and the 16th-ranked Packers.”

mr. tegu 08-30-2023 08:19 AM

We will blow them out as we always do in the first game. Average margin of victory in the first game with Mahomes is 13 with only one game where we won by less than 10 points.


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