The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
 

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

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Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

Are any of the trainers gay?

ROFL

Please NO trade.

I would prefer he be a Chief for life but math and the salary cap make these decisions tricky. I remember hearing the Chiefs and Tyreek were "far apart"

I’ll be rooting for the KC Chiefs regardless tbh

If we trade him, we’ll be cheering HARD for that team to ****ing suck.

One (very mild) downside to Mahomes, is that we’re pretty much never drafting early. It’s just not going to happen unless you trade a Chris Jones to a team that just ends up being terrible.

My concern is that he's going to hold out of training camp and then get hurt early in the season.

I absolutely DO NOT want to trade him, but I'd be curious what teams would offer for him.

If the Chiefs trade Jones they’re idiots.

End of thread.

I think we’ll pay him. I hope we pay him. But will trust Veach to look after the long term best interests of the team.

Its gonna be fine, next story...

The deal will be done.

Do you think that Chris Jones is not a man of his word?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m a chief for life. I will not play for another franchise</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1634942431358754817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hoping it works out. It takes two to get a deal done. Chiefs will be fine either way.

Chris wants all the monies...figure it out

Does Chris Jones have any say in trades per his contact? Not gonna happen, but just curious.

That was before the draft when KC could still somewhat address WR. Trade Chris Jones at this point in the offseason and the defense takes a huge hit. Imagine a DL with what, Nnadi and maybe Wharton as your starting DTs? If they were goi to trade him they should have done it before the draft or at least drafted or signed a DT.

I bet you said the same thing about Hill.
Remember someone will check the threads and see if you are telling the truth.

When he hugged Goodell after winning the Super Bowl. Rodger said, give the fans drama!

I hope he gets paid. But again, in Veach I trust.

I saw Chris Jones eating a pack and a pound of potato oles at the Taco Johns in Bonner Springs. The deal is done.

Idk, what does that say to veterans or potential FA’s that after the Mahomes mega-contract we’ve seen OBj, Hill, and now potentially CJ all leave due to an inability or unwillingness to extend them? Signing Mahomes meant KC occasionally has to make hard decisions, but you can’t simply let every single high priced player walk.

That being said, if Jones leaves then so be it. But might as well go all in on offense, go sign Higgins or someone similar in FA next year.

He is still under contract this year, I would guess any trade wouldn't happen until next offseason due to a lack of a new deal

They extended Jones after Mahomes.

What? They extended Tyreek once already, they extended Chris Jones once already and they had a offer for an extension in hand for Orlando Brown Jr but he stupidly turned it down.

Told ya ****ers.

He wants Aaron Donald money, and Bart don’t play that.

FYP

Still think he signs but probably what he's asking...he should be higher than Williams

He literally came out and said he wants to be the 2nd highest paid DT, but I definitely think he wants to be the highest paid defender not named Aaron Donald. Also where have you told us this?

MVPat took less money (per his dad) to re-sign CJ.

I don’t get the impression CJ is returning the favor.

Patrick Mahomes signed for half a million and has endorsement after endorsement. To pretend it's the same is just you being your usual stupid self.

I voted trade for a reverse jinx. I’ve ruined careers by selecting them early in my money fantasy football league.

No doubt. It’s just negotiating. Last time he resigned, it wasn’t until after the first week of camp, right?

Lot bigger pile of money on the table and at stake this time. When Jones first hot here he wasn’t much of a leader, outspoken. Let his play speak for itself on the field.

But…. If you are going to get a $100 million contract, you need to be a leader of tough grown ass men. He has evolved into that. The mic’s up’s we see prove that. Pay the man Veach.

It was for half a BILLION not MILLION :thumb:

TRADE HIM!!! Our young HOF QB is willing to take less than top tier money and he's not???

Although I will say he's driving a hard bargain by saying he won't play for another team. I like that.

PAY THAT MAN!!

It's tough though. He's not a spring chicken anymore. We doing this the Patriot way. TRADE HIM!!!

Elite interior pass rusher are of the rarest sort. PAY HIM!!

I just don't know...

he better ****ing sign or i will be piss offed!

Do i think CJ will get traded? I hope not because I love the player, But. Veachy has a number and he has shown he sticks to guns on this. Also he has pretty much been right on his extensions. He has the team's best interests and not a single player but one is untouchable. If Chris is unreasonable here then **** around and test then find out what happens. That is why I couldn't say outright that we extend as I see a pretty good chance they trade him if things go south.

I’d he gets paid.

He better embrace it like Mahomes has.

Don’t be a POS once paid. This isn’t the 90s chiefs here you can get paid, not produce and the fanbase defend you.

Either produce or get ducked.

We'll be fine

Also weeks earlier the reports were its getting close to an extension and now its miles apart. Where the truth here is anyone's guess. Is he still miffed about his buddy Frank and is willing to get hardnosed now?

He gon' get traded

Tagging him next offseason ****s their cap and limits the ability to sign anyone else until he’s traded.

Tranquillo, friends
















wbf

He’ll sign.

But I like playing hypotheticals, too.

If we traded him, we’d need a star defender with a locked in contract and a 1st back for him.

I did. The difference is that Mahomes plays offense too. Take Jones away from this D a it’s a 25-32 unit imo. He’s that important.

So to play devil's advocate...

I think you want to try and minimize the number of players who, if they were out for a playoff game, would sink your chances.

Obviously you need a QB with at least one leg.

It would be nice to be able to survive without Kelce.

It would be nice to be able to lose any given starter on D and not be 100% reliant on a player on the wrong side of thirty.

I said now contract 3 months ago and still feel the same. He wants more than we can pay.

My toaster gets closer to my bathtub every minute this goes on!!!

I think this is right.

None of us are in the room, so no one here has any idea how reasonable either side is being.

If we trade Jones, I sincerely doubt it’s because we just didn’t want to pay him. It’s because we didn’t want to overpay him.

I want Jones back, because this could be a very special season and he’s still a dominant player. I also get that with Mahomes, we’re contenders for the next decade (with or without Jones).

Veach has earned our trust. I’m in favor of whatever he does.

He’d damn well better be.

He is getting $28+ million to play this year.

Tag him next year if nothing gets worked out over the next few months. Tag number next year for DT is about $21 million. Let him explore his options. See what happens. Either outcome at that point is a win-win.

He’s already likely threatening to hold out this year and he’s actually under contract.

If we tag him next year, it’ll be even more acrimonious.

This isn’t win-win.

I've not seen the threat to hold out the season. Holding out training camp is a different thing than the season.

And to me, having Chris Jones going forward after next year is a win. Having no Chris Jones, but $20 million to $30 million to spend plus a few extra quallity draft picks is also a win. Hence, win-win.

Kinda doubt he sits out the year and forfeits the massive salary he is already set to receive. If he does, though, go ahead and tag.

Veach's penny pinching ways this offseason look very astute right now.

I don’t think Chris Jones will sit out games either but I’m sure he’s absolutely using the possibility of that as leverage.

And there’s no win in trading Chris Jones before this season. We wouldn’t remotely be able to replace his production with cash to spend on guys who aren’t on the market and draft picks who won’t be available before the 2024 season.

If this had been before FA and the draft, it’s a different discussion. Resorting to trading him now is a disaster and that would absolutely be a pretty clear miscalculation on Veach’s part.

I ultimately think he’ll show up and play the season out under contract and I think that’s probably where the team’s at.

To be clear, I am not applying the trade option to this year. It would be the tag and trade option prior to the draft next year.

i, too, think a deal will get done, but this does worry me with injury

jones has always been a guy who gets nicked up and players who miss a lot of camp tend to get injured

Thats the NFL rules you play under, authorized by the NFLPA, your represented. But still, this gets acrimonious its not in the Chief fans interests, the teams, Chris's and front office. No one benefits from a long drawn out hold out.

If he wants Donald money, he wont get it here. He can be the 2nd highest paid DL ever. I love Jones. Let's don't **** this up.

He’s trying to negotiate through the media. Leverage fan support to pressure the Chiefs FO to pay his denands.

I’m just reading the negotiating room.

If CJ was going to accept $25M per, the deal would already be done. He wants $30M and Veachy isn’t going to pay that.

Ok, then 27.5. Bingo bango done

Like Bart and Reek split the difference??

His tag # is 33.4 million next year

CJ is late to camp because his apartment was nearly destroyed while smoking pork butt on his balcony. Once his apartment is restored, he’ll be back in camp.

Creed Humphrey, Nick Bolton and Trey Smith all in the last years of their rookie deals next offseason and with big potential contract extensions pending.

The price of sustained success never easy.

If he was that far apart he wouldnt have been a big part of the ESPYs. Dude wants to be here, kc wants him here. This seems like the kind of card he knows he can only pull so often to get out of some of the off-season stuff. I am not that worried. CJ became the undisputed leader of the chiefs defense. Unlike honey badger, it's a title the chiefs want him to keep.

Gonna be uncomfortable to hear but these are the types of spots we need to think twice about. We don't need to tie all our payroll up to our interior OL and LBs. Unfortunately I think snead falls here too as long as we can keep churning DBs the way we have

Where did you get that number?
According to OTC, it is just under $21M.

Never understood the point in the gigantic contracts especially when they get backloaded

rarely does the player ever make it through the deal before getting cut for it

Wtf are you talking about? He was paid the same off-season Mahomes was and did he fail to produce then?

Nah bro he plays LB

I love you Chris Jones. Chief for life! Hugs!!!

Jones has a ton of leverage right now

Smart for him to use it financially

Would it be worth it to you to pay $50,000/day to miss a few days of tedious training camp if you are making Chris Jones-type money?

Especially if you are in a situation where your team mates aren’t going to think negatively towards your absence since it is viewed as a legitimate part of the business process of getting a new contract.

I’d do that in a heartbeat.

I was never convinced he would get another large deal from us. We have got his best. Doubt he ever does better but wants more money.
Is he really going to sit out and lose 20 mil?

Sounds like you’re cool with him ****ing over my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

He can **** off to HoboSpirit Land for all I care.

I know this is a bit off the topic but the NFL numbers blow my mind. 6 Bil for the Washington Redskins Commanders. PM signing a half a bil contract which will probably be 1 bil. by the time he retires. Chris Jones probably looking for north of 30 mil per year. I know we have had some inflation the past several years but I fail to see how any of this is sustainable.