Poll: What should/will Veach do with the WR group?
 

[Poll coming soon]

Right now we have MVS, Toney, Moore and... camp fodder. So what happens this offseason?

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How much is the Mahomes factor worth?

Do we need any more WR's?

Can he take this bunch and win?

I think they trade for Hopkins and draft a WR somewhere in the first 4 rounds.

I'd go with Darius Slayton for an easy 2yr 8m contract. Fill in the rest with a couple draft picks.

Agree with staylor. I still believe Justyn Ross can factor in and compete for significant playing time this upcoming season.

I’m in the camp of no for Hopkins but would take a flier on OBJ is the deal is reasonable.

With all the money walking in FA no reason it's not Dhop at this point

Really comes down to what draft picks we have to give for Hopkins

I’d like us to sign Slayton and draft one but I’ll take Hopkins as a plan B.

I hope Ross is able to contribute. I also hope Veach isn’t hoping the same because he’s be a fool to bank on that.

DJ Chark
N'Keal Harry
Darius Slayton
Parris Campbell

One of these 4

Harry is terrible

Do we trust Veach to draft a WR?
Sky Moore has not been good

Rookie WR’s historically do not have immediate impacts in Andy Reid’s offenses… going back to his Philly days.

Tyreek was the only rookie WR to have a significant impact in an Andy Reid offense and he was more of a gadget player than a traditional WR.

I like for the Chiefs to sign DJ Chark and bring back Hardman.

Which is why we probably could use another vet IMO

Would really love to see the Hopkins trade happen.

It's not uncommon for rookie WR to come out of the gate below average so I'm not giving up on Skyy just yet but there's definitely going to need to be some talent brought in to up the ante.

If the Veach could bring back Hardman and get Jarvis Landry I'd call that a win.

Coming from my years as an NFL GM of course.

I've been wanting him since last offseason but he's also got a bit of Sammy Watkins syndrome as well. Intriguing talent but injury prone.

****ing christ.

Roster wise, the team is set up well for a special talent, rental vet.

Cap wise, i have no idea.

If you go short term rental vet, it'd also be an opportune time to draft a true perimeter WR.

So basically, what Staylor said.

I'm going to go out on this huge limb and say it's a combination of the last two options. They'll sign a cheap vet to cover their bases and they'll draft a dude. That draft a dude might be quite high if they feel good about everything else but depth on the roster.

Hop Hop.

Give me Darius Slayton! :thumb:

This isn't the stupidest thing you've ever said.

Gimme CHARK THE SHARK!!!

I'm thinking the draft at this point.

D-Hop would be nice if he wants a team friendly deal for a chance at a ring, but seems unlikely.
LMAO at OBJ
Hardman and Theilen both seem unlikely
Unnamed FA is tempting, just because Veach seems to go this route, but who knows

My only concern is that might make our draft selections too predictable for Veach's liking. Example:

In that scenario, we *should* use #31(and potentially another to move up) to get the WR like JSN.

Then that means we *should* use our 2nd to get a starting-caliber RT, and maybe move up to do so again.

Then that means we *should* go get an Edge or IDL, with the next pick being the other position not chosen.


I don't think Veach likes to go in to the draft with such glaring holes in such a predictable sequence. Of course that's me just hand-wringing.

We have $16 million in cap space. Need $17 million to trade for Hopkins.

Not sure this is what Mahomes restructure was for

Let's say you grab Nelson Agholor or Adam Thielen for 7m this year, I don't think that telegraphs much.

Grab a solid reserve OT like Josh Wells for a vet min deal or so that can respectably compete for either spot as a starter and be a quality swing reserve at minimum. Pick up a DT like maybe Watts on a vet min deal.

I think that puts you in a pretty solid area heading to the draft with no major holes.

Draft

Our existent guys are fine enough

Slayton or Chark I'd lean toward Slayton.

That’s simply not true

Dumpster dive and draft.

Get real. Old and expensive. Not the Chiefs current model.

Probably not. But I'm always willing to try.

I hear you, but I just feel like Nelson / Adam are such "meh" options for us as we head into Kelce and Reid's final stretches. Sure, we can do something next year too, but let's strike while the iron is hottest.

- KT's health is such a risk factor... banking on him playing all season is ballsy.
- MVS stepping up would be a necessity
- Skyy stepping up would be a necessity
- The Rookie understanding Reid's playbook and excelling out the gate would be needed

We would need 2 or 3 of the above 4 things to happen.

I feel like that's just playing too fast and loose with what should be a "go get it" opportunity.

I never really poured over crap like this like some of you do, but at this point, I don't do it at all. Whatever happens happens. Veach is a masterful GM, and Andy and Mahomes will make any WR we sign better than he was in the past. In Veach, Andy and Mahomes I trust. I'm just going to sit back and watch and enjoy it.

I think Veach takes a more risk free approach, gets a cheaper vet like Thielan and probably another draft pick, pray that Skyy Moore develops into a productive receiver. Hope one of those guys that were on IR last season (Ross) can do something and you also have to hope that Toney can stay healthy.

See, I feel like that is the more risky path, and getting Hop or OBJ is the more risk-free approach.

ya, I see your point.

The Chiefs did win a playoff game with only 3 receivers, so they might think they can put anyone out there and be ok. But we have Veach, I'm sure he has a plan to address it. Looking forward to finding out what that is.

For sure should be interesting regardless

D-Hop is pricey and OBJ presents the most risk of any option (add in his supposed contract demands and he's expensive and risky). I'm not sure I see either as overly realistic.

Fair point. I view it as a worthwhile investment, but I’m not Veach.

An old vet but if they come cheap enough so possibly Thielen sounds okay.

But I'm not on board spending real money or picks on a WR with any sort of injury concern because Toney already has that spot filled thank you.

So no DHop.

I don't know that much about the other options but KC isn't a borderline team that needs ti go all in rolling the dice.

And Toney really is a roll of the dice.

KC needs a healthy JuJu not 50% playing time Hammy Watkins

Didn't some report leak that the Chiefs think Toney can be a WR1?

How DARE you refer to our WR savior Cornell Powell as camp fodder! blasphemy!

Quit stealing the stash from the P&E room, fella.

Poppers and Edibles?

Eww, no. But you do you.

you can't leave me hanging I have no idea what the P&E room is.....

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15 is quarterback. We’re good.

What is a popper?

property and evidence

I'd bring back Watson, get a vet on a rental, and see what we have in both Ross's. Don't overpay for a guy that hasn't played since 2021 and certainly don't over pay in both draft capital and cash for a malcontent. I'd even bring back Hardman if the money is right.

How is there not a ‘Sign Bobby Sippio’ option to this poll?

Let all your young Super Bowl talent go. To sign broken has beens? How brilliant

LMAO - that is actually pretty funny - I was trying to think sports - you got me

What does Brett Veach look like?

Poll seems oddly negative.

Not sure there's a WR in this draft that would out perform D Hopkins for our 2nd over the next two seasons.

But would DHop play for what a 2nd round rookie would play for?

I wonder how much money they would need to move considering the cap space they have left is about what they need for the rookie pool.

A C Jones extension might help, plus D Hop is rumored to cost a 2nd + a player which further lightens our load.

...wondering if we might be able to get him for a 3rd now. NE went with JuJu, NYG aren't making a major move, BAL can't even afford a QB, DAL was fake news, not like there's a bidding war currently.

I'll take any WR that is smart, runs good routes, and gets some separation.

Ju Ju didnt seem to get much separation in his time here.

Not sure all the hate for 31 or 32 year olds.......especially if they're ring-chasers that are motivated (and it's only one WR in the squad).

Seemed to work for Brady for several years.

Well, I can tell ya what he shouldn't do. Thats roll to camp with your WR1 Kadarius Toney and WR2 Skyy Moore. That would be an absolute disaster and I cant believe so many of you want to do that. You need to add a WR1 to offset the expected decline of Travis Kelce. It will happen. Farher time catches us all.

Veach has something up his sleeve, I just hope it isnt Adam Thielen.

I think Veach can get creative at the WR position.

I'll be honest, there is part of me that wants to see OBJ (WR) as a Chiefs. I'd love to see what he could do with Patrick. And he would also bring a lot of swagger, which we lack at the position. But if he wants 20M, I'm out.

I don't like paying the price in draft picks for DHop. So I'm out.

I wouldn't mind a vet like Thielen so long as its team friendly. He would probably be an upgrade over Watson.

I still think a trade could is the best way to get a young WR with upside. The Jets probably need draft picks to get the Rogers deal done. I'd love to add a guy like Corey Davis to this team. There also has to be other guys you can get.

Yep.

I feel like they really need a veteran in there that the rookies can continue to learn from. I know we have Kelce, but that’s not exactly the same thing.

Me too. I would love to see what a more mature Mahomes could do with true, tall talented WR1.

Poll fail. No draft a WR option

ROFL

Hate it, but have to agree. Being serious, the WR room only managed 13 TDs last season.

The Chiefs won 11 games in 2022 scoring 27 points or less.

9 of those games were decided by less than 4 points

As it stands right now without JuJu, Watson and Hardman, that's 9 less TDs, 73 less 1st downs, and about 1,545 yards.

Look, if Toney can stay healthy, he's probably good for at least 1,000 yards, 50 1st downs and 7-10 TDs. The unknown is can he stay healthy. But if he does, no one's really worried about him being productive.

Skyy just has to somehow be 300% more effective. To 'take over' JuJu's role, he has to at a minimum triple his yards and score more than Juju's paltry 3 TDs.

Then we have Justin Watson, who is a FA, but we expect that he'll be back. He has to do something he's never done, and that's become a starting WR3/4? More than double his yards, triple his 1st downs, etc. 2022 was his career high. He finished the season with a 44% catch rate, and accounted for 315 yards, 12 1st downs and a pair of TDs.

That is not good. That's zero WRs we can at least 90% rely on to perform at a NFL WR1/2 standard in 2023.

And rookie WRs historically don't have 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL.

It's not an ideal situation.

P Campbell to the Giants, I'm guessing they're done until the draft.

Not much out there, nor many teams looking.

It’s literally the last option in the poll, and it is currently tied for the most votes

What ever the **** he wants to Dante84. Damn man! Lol.

He has the talent but they need another I case of injury.

I hate the idea of trading for older WR's but Dhop is just so damned good that I think it's worth a shot. I think of Randy Moss going from the Raiders to the Patriots.

I'd also be willing to take Theilen for a year....

As we've seen with players like Moore, and even Jamar Chase... it's hard to come into the NFL and be ready to go as a WR, especially in Reids offense. So relying on another rookie seems a little risky.

Count me in for DHop.

We are almost certainly going to sign *someone* before the draft.

Campbell and Slayton are off the board. Chark is visiting the Panthers tomorrow.

- OBJ?
- Trade for Hopkins?
- Trade for Brandin Cooks?
- Adam Thielen?
- Mecole Hardman?
- Mack Hollins?
- Jarvis Landry?
- Nelson Agholor?

Dhop has pulled ahead in the poll! Schefter should be reporting this.

Maybe Hollins. Possession receiver, probably give us basically what JuJu brought, maybe a bit more burst. Everything else is probably a wash. But he's significantly younger than Thielen, and might, probably, is more versatile at this point.