*** 2023 Draft Simulator Mocks ***
 

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From NFL Mock Draft Database Sim 2/2/23

My Selections
18 Quentin Johnston WR | TCU
72 Darnell Wright OT | Tennessee
118 Keeanu Benton DL | Wisconsin
149 Cameron Latu TE | Alabama
167 Dylan Horton EDGE | TCU
183 Tyjae Spears RB | Tulane
186 Max Melton CB | Rutgers
215 Jonathan Mingo WR | Mississippi
219 YaYa Diaby EDGE | Louisville
227 Aidan O'Connell QB | Purdue
235 Mikel Jones LB | Syracuse
258 Brandon Hill S | Pittsburgh

When Johnston fell I had to go get him. Then made a power play for Darnell Wright at the top of 3. A lot of unrealistic stuff here IMO BUT... I like a few players in this we haven't discussed much, especially Tyjae Spears, Max Melton, Mikel Jones, and Brandon Hill.

Trades:

Those trades are LOL.

I assume your tackles for 2023 in this scenario are Brown/Wright?

Definitely some lol on the trades. I just threw crap at the wall until they accepted hahaha.

And yes, Brown/Wright.

I am kind of starting to feel the re-sign Brown, go get a playmaker in 1 and then grab RT in 2. Figure out alot of the defense in FA and mid-rounds. It's not like Veach can't at least maintain the D from this year. Add a guy like Arden Key at DE and maybe a NT like Greg Gaines and I'd be quite pleased.

I just took BPA trying to create the best offense the league has ever seen. I think I achieved it with this draft

Thats insane haha

Patrick could average over 30 ppg with our second string offense with that draft.

Seriously though I *think* veach could load up on certain positions like WR in the draft, re-sign Wylie and let him compete with Niang and a middle round pick + sign a vet DE like he's done with Ingram (ok traded for him) and Dunalp. Realistically how could you not argue that team would be even better than this years super bowl team?

I couldn't argue, its just the players that are there. Addison and Hyatt probably both go top 15-20 and Scott could flirt with the 1st round as well. That's what makes it so eye-popping.

That said, you could get some value at WR in every single one of those rounds. I don't think Veach does that but I wouldn't be opposed to 1st and 4th round WRs.

Love doing mocks at this point as they're almost always ridiculous. For example:

Did a NFL one based on the assumption I was getting an RT in FA, they let me have:

30. Zay Flowers - WR
62. Calijah Kancey - DT
94. Will McDonald IV - DE
122. Sydney Brown - S
133. Isaiah McGuire - DE
167. Keondre Coburn - DT
197. Connor Galvin - OT
217. Andrei Iosivas - WR
219. Tyler Scott - WR
227. BJ Thompson - DE
250. Durell Nchami- DE/LB
258. Xazavian Halladay - RB

Almost all of those seem ridiculous to me, but a fun exercise. That's a nose tackle, a bazillion WR types to play with, speed rusher and power rusher DEs, 3rd safety and a developmental OT.

No chance of course, especially picks like Scott.

What is with the NFL Mock Draft Database Simulator? I'd get down to the 5th or 6th round and people would be offering me 1st round picks the next season for them.

I've started trying to trade up in the 1st to the teens.

You've got Karlaftis, probably for the next decade. Go get another edge rusher and set your bookends for a decade.

I had the Texans offer me their entire 2024 draft for a 6th and a 7th lol

Got this beauty from the PFN Simulator. I'd say their rankings need adjusting soon...

30. Broderick Jones OT Georgia
62. Lukas Van Ness EDGE Iowa
94. Keeanu Benton DT Wisconsin
122. Wanya Morris OT Oklahoma
133. Trey Palmer WR Nebraska
167. Will Mallory TE Miami (FL)
197. Sydney Brown S Illinois
218. Mohamed Ibrahim RB Minnesota
220. Thomas Incoom EDGE Central Michigan
227. Riley Moss CB Iowa
250. Keion White EDGE Georgia Tech
257. Tyler Lacy DT Oklahoma State

Haha, holy s**t that would be fun. That's a beefy DL, good luck running on us! Sydney Brown is a bit of a draft crush for me. He was used much closer to the line and I'm hoping teams think he's just a thumper and overthink it. Would LOVE him to fall to us from the 4th but little chance, at 197 I would be elated.

I see you're a fan of Van Ness too. What do you think about Van Ness at 30/31?

I'm all about it, yeah. He's a little longer than Karlaftis and a little bit better closing burst but otherwise very similar players. Not too bendy or twitchy. I like him though. I think the top-10 talk is overrating him but I think he goes in the first and the only question really is where. I'd say 20-31 is probably a solid range to have him in.

DT Carter fell outside the top 10 so I swooped the #12 pick for our 1st this year and next, 2nd and 7th this year, and 3rd next year. I traded down 1 spot at #167 and picked up an extra 6th next year. Basically, gave up 4 premium picks for the top player in the draft, but can probably get 1 or 2 of those back if EB gets and HC job or I trade OT OBJ next year.

#12 DT Carter
#95 OT Breeland
#133 WR Mingo
#167 S Brown
#197 HB Luepke
#220 DL Diaby
#227 LB Hayward
#250 OT Bass
#257 CB Thomas V

Ran it a 2nd time, and I like this one even better...

#15 DT Carter
#94 DE Harrison
#122 WR Mingo
#133 S Brown
#167 WR Iosivas
#197 OT Nelson
#218 DE Incoom
#220 DL Diaby
#227 DE Fehoko
#257 CB Thomas V

^That'd make for really deep DL with only C Jones making big money assuming you let F Clark go, nice talents added to the WR and DB rooms, and another swing at a mid-round RT to complete the OL.

Yikes...Traded our 1st, 3rd, and next year's 2nd to draft DE Will Anderson at #20! Watch out!

#20 DE Anderson
#62 WR Rice
#94 OT Morris
#133 WR Scott
#167 DL Pickens
#197 OT Haggard
#217 HB Luepke
#219 DL Diaby
#227 DE Incoom
#250 WR BoBo
#258 CB Wright

I doubt Will Anderson or Jalen Carter actually fall in this draft, unless they get hurt at the combine or arrested between now and then, but Q Johnston might be a more realistic target if we were to interested in trading up.

Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 31 (my choice in bold):

PFF:

QB Tanner McKee, Stanford
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah
DT Calijah Kancey, Pittsburgh
DT Siaki Ika, Baylor
DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa State
DE Andre Carter II, Army
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State

NFL Mock Draft Database:

RB Bijan Robinson, Texas
RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah
OT Dawand Jones, Ohio State
DE Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M

Fanspeak:

RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
OG O'Cyrus Torrence, Florida
DE Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
DE Andre Carter II, Arny
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon
CB Christian Gonzalez, Oregon
S Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia

PFN:

WR Kayshon Boutte, LSU
WR Josh Downs, North Carolina
TE Darnell Washington, Georgia
OT Anton Harrison, Oklahoma
DT Siaki Ika, Baylor
DE Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State
LB Noah Sewell, Oregon
LB Henry To'oTo'o, Alabama
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas, Arkansas
S JL Skinner, Boise State

Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 63 (my choice in bold):

PFF:

WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
DT Moro Ojomo, Texas
DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
DT Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
DE Derick Hall, Auburn
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Daiyan Henley, Washington State
CB Deonte Banks, Maryland

NFL Mock Draft Database:

WR Rashee Rice, SMU
OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
OT Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
OT Jaelyn Duncan, Maryland
DE Will McDonald IV, Iowa State
DE Andre Carter II, Army
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Henry To'oto'o, Alabama
LB Jack Campbell, Iowa
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia

Fanspeak:

RB Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama
WR Rashee Rice, SMU
OG Andrew Vorhees, USC
C John Michael Schmitz, Minnesota
LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas
LB Henry To'oto'o, Alabama
CB Tyrique Stevenson, Miami
CB Mekhi Garner, LSU
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S JL Skinner, Boise State

PFN:

QB Hendon Hooker, Tennessee
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State
OT Jaylyn Duncan, Maryland
OT Cody Mauch, North Dakota State
DE Luke Van Ness, Iowa
DE Andre Carter II, Army
LB Owen Pappoe, Auburn
CB Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, TCU
S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame

Here's the "top ten" selections the following four mock simulators gave me at 93 (my choice in bold):

PFF:

RB Devon Achane, Texas A&M
WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest
OG Andrew Vorhees, USC
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
DT Kobie Turner, Wake Forest
DE Nick Herbig, Wisconsin
CB Jaylon Jones, Texas A&M
CB Clark Phillips III, Utah
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame

NFL Mock Draft Database:

RB Zach Evans, Mississippi
WR Rashee Rice, SMU
WR Cedric Tillman, Tennessee
DE Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern
CB Kyu Blu Kelly, Stanford
S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
S Jordan Battle, Alabama
S Sydney Brown, Illinois
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State
S JL Skinner, Boise State

Fanspeak:

RB Chase Brown, Illinois
RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
WR A.T. Perry, Wake Forest
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
C Steve Avila, TCU
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
S Jammie Robinson, Florida State
S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame
S Trey Dean III, Florida
S Sydney Brown, Illinois

PFN:

RB Zach Evans, Mississippi
TE Luke Musgrave, Oregon State
C Luke Wypler, Ohio State
DT Mazi Smith, Michigan
DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
DT Jacquelin Roy, LSU
DE DJ Johnson, Oregon
DE Zach Harrison, Ohio State
LB Ivan Pace Jr., Cincinnati
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas

One more round. Here's the 4th:

PFF:

RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
RB Chase Brown, Illinois
WR Andrei Iosivas, Princeton
WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
WR Jonathan Mingo, Mississippi
OG Atonio Mafi, UCLA
C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
DE Colby Wooden, Auburn

NFL Mock Draft Database:

QB Jaren Hall, BYU
RB Deuce Vaughn, Kansas State
RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane
WR Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Tyler Steen, Alabama
OG Jarrett Patterson, Notre Dame
DT Colby Wooden, Auburn
LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas
CB Mekhi Garner, LSU

Fanspeak:

RB DeWayne McBride, UAB
RB Israel Abanikanda, Pittsburgh
RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane
OG Kendall Randolph, Alabama
CB Mekhi Blackmon, USC
CB Jaylon Jones, Texas A&M
CB Kei'Trel Clark, Louisville
S Ronnie Hickman, Ohio State
S Rashad Torrence II, Florida
S John Torchio, Wisconsin

PFN:

RB Kenny McIntosh, Georgia
RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma
RB Chase Brown, Illinois
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa
OT Jordan McFadden, Clemson
C Olusegun Oluwatimi, Michigan
C Alex Forsyth, Oregon
DT Zacch Pickens, South Carolina
DE Isaiah McGuire, Missouri
S Rashad Torrence II, Florida

Who gave me the best four rounds?

PFF:

1. DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
2. WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
3. S Christopher Smith II, Georgia
4. WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati

NFL Mock Draft Database:

1. DE BJ Ojulari, LSU
2. OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee
3. WR Rashee Rice, SMU
4. DT Colby Wooden, Auburn

Fanspeak:

1. DE Andre Carter II, Army
2. WR Rashee Rice, SMU
3. S Brandon Joseph, Notre Dame
4. RB DeWayne McBride, UAB

PFN:

1. OT Anton Harrison, Oklahoma
2. DE Andre Carter II, Army
3. DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
4. RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma

So I'm going to say the best team I got is from the PFF mock. Ojulari starts by year two, and Hyatt and Scott get major snaps by year two.

I guess Niang or a free agent would our tackle, then.

Stop drafting a damn RB and try again.

Our current roster is #1 in the league, we can go BPA and take any impact player we want. So my question would be why not a RB? I'd actually argue bc of our situation on current roster we might be most eligible to take a RB in the first like Robinson if he falls. He'd make for a really fun pick in my opinion, now.

Honestly, with 12 draft picks, and RB being arguably the most loaded position, I'm all for taking a RB on day 3 again this year.

Pacheco, McKinnon, rookie.

Late day three? Fine. Round 4 or higher? No ****ing thanks.

I wouldn't even mind round 4 because we have 2 picks in that round, but yea, preferably not until 5-7.

Messed around with various trades on PFF and got the below. I'm increasingly interested in Boutte as a WR option. As someone else said, there is a slight "this year's Pickens" vibe to the situation, though different players and different "issues". PFF let me trade up only a little way to get him, but I suspect we'd need to go up closer to 45-50. Probably the pick I'm most "meh" about is the Mauch one. Other than that the knock would be perhaps we need another DE, but in this scenario I'm assuming FA has covered DT and DE.

I probably should have swung for another RB but there you go.

31. Will McDonald IV - DE
58. Kayson Boutte - WR
95. Cody Mauch - OT
107. Gervon Dexter Sr - DI
111. Brandon Joseph - S
114. Brodric Martin - DI
122. Trey Palmer - WR
219 - Cameron Latu - TE
227 - Drake Thomas - LB

No trades with PFN:

KC
31.

Isaiah Foskey
EDGE Notre Dame
KC
63.

Cedric Tillman
WR Tennessee
KC
95.

Matthew Bergeron
OT Syracuse
KC
122.

Zach Harrison
EDGE Ohio State
KC
134.

Devon Achane
RB Texas A&M
KC
168.

Luke Schoonmaker
TE Michigan
KC
197.

PJ Mustipher
DT Penn State
KC
217.

Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville
KC
219.

Jovaughn Gwyn
OG South Carolina
KC
227.

Karl Brooks
DT Bowling Green
KC
251.

Michael Jefferson
WR Louisiana
KC
257.

Anthony Johnson Jr.
S Iowa State

So when I was doing the NFL Mock Draft Database, I accepted every trade that was offered to me.

The funny thing with the mock is, teams will keep trading their 2024 picks to you so much that they run out of reasonable picks to offer, so they start offering 1st and 2nd rounders in 2024 to trade for your 6th or 7th round pick. At one point, Jacksonville offered me next year's 1st and 3rd for the 257th pick in the draft.

I selected like 6 players, but look at my 2024 draft haul:

1st
1st (Miami)
1st (Commanders)
1st (New England)
1st (Buffalo)
1st (NY Giants)
1st (LA Chargers)
1st (Atlanta)
1st (Atlanta)
1st (Arizona)
1st (Buffalo)
1st (Jacksonville)
2nd
2nd (Tampa)
2nd (Atlanta)
2nd (San Francisco)
2nd (LA Chargers)
2nd (Atlanta)
2nd (Indianiapolis)
2nd (Atlanta)
2nd (Arizona)
3rd
3rd (Tampa)
3rd (Cincinnati)
3rd (Baltimore)
3rd (Pittsburgh)
3rd (Jacksonville)
3rd (Houston)
3rd (New England)
3rd (New England)
3rd (NY Giants)
3rd (San Francisco)
3rd (Indianapolis)
3rd (Arizona)
3rd (Buffalo)
3rd (Jacksonville)
4th
4th (Cincinnati)
4th (LA Rams)
4th (Arizona)
4th (Jacksonville)
4th (Houston)
4th (Houston)
4th (New England)
4th (Buffalo)
4th (NY Giants)
5th
5th (Miami)
5th (Tampa)
5th (Baltimore)
5th (Seattle)
6th
6th (Minnesota)
6th (Cincinnati)
6th (Jacksonville)
6th (Jacksonville)
6th (LA Chargers)
6th (Tampa)
6th (Buffalo)
6th (Atlanta)
7th
7th (LA Rams)
7th (Baltimore)
7th (Tampa)
7th (LA Chargers)
7th (Indianapolis)
7th (Buffalo)

I think I can package a few of those picks and move up to get a guy.

Veach going into 2024 trying to set it on Hard mode. Just give me Mahomes, Kelce and 51 rookies.

NFL Mock Sim:

1st - OT Harrison
2nd - DE Carter
3rd - S Brown
4th - WR Perry
4th - WR Iosivas
5th - WR Mingo
6th - DE Incoom
6th - OL Daniels
6th - DL Diaby
7th - HB Luepke
7th - CB Thomas V
7th - CB Ford

I'd be good with this draft. Harrison to start opposite of OBJ, Andre Carter is our fast bendy DE opposite Karlaftis who we might want to rotate with F Clark for a year or two, Perry to replace Watson's height, Iosivas to replace Mecole's speed, and Mingo to replace JuJu's size. Daniels is the new Wylie, Diaby the new Saunders, and Incoom is a nice depth piece similar to Danna. I love Luepke for Andy, he replaces Burton and acts as our #2 back. Thomas and Ford both have measurables for Spags to train up, but we might be able to get these two as UDFAs.

PFN mock draft. No trades.

31. Lukas Van Ness DE
63. Cedric Tillman WR
95. Matthew Bergeron OT
122. Keeanu Benton DT
134. Charlie Jones WR
168. Will Mallory TE
197. Christian Izien S
217. DeWayne McBride RB
219. Bumper Pool (Can't believe that's a real name) LB
227. Jalen Redmond DT
251. Darrell Luter Jr. CB
257. Elijah Higgins WR

PFF

33. RB Bijan Robinson
54. WR Jaylin Hyatt
65. DE Isaiah Foskey
123. DL Zacch Pickens
135. RT Blake Freeland
168. OL Braeden Daniels
217. FB Hunter Leupke
257. S Kaevon Merriweather

Take it to the bank.

31. DL Tuli Tuipuloto
63. WR Jaylin Hyatt
95. WR A.T. Perry
123. WR Andrei Iosivas
133. CB Starling Thomas V
168. OT Luke Haggard
178. DE Thomas Incoom
217. FB Hunter Luepke
219. OT Wayna Morris
227. RB Lew Nichols
251. DL Yaya Diaby
257. S Kaevon Merriweather

Let's go!

Two RBs?

One's a FB. We could lose Burton, McKinnon, and trade CEH this offseason, potentially.

This is one of the best mocks I've done. I'd be ecstatic if the board fell this way to us.

https://ibb.co/FqJMZ4W

What do we need? Feels like we have plenty enough cap space and picks to fill ALL of our holes this year:

RT - Wylie's replacement
RE - Frank Clark's replacement & maybe a designated Pass Rusher
DL - Nandi & Saunders replacements
WR - Hardman's & maybe JuJu's replacement
RB - Mckinnon & maybe CEH's replacement
S - Thornhill's replacement
QB - Backup QB
OL - Maybe Alligretti's depth replacement
TE - Maybe Kelce's depth compliment

Am I missing anything?

I don't see any way it works this way because I don't see Jones falling to us and I can't see us taking 3 edge players, only one of whom really fits inside. It's a non-starter of a draft, but these are all guys I like:

1: Broderick Jones, OT - Georgia
63: Derick Hall, DE - Auburn
95: Isaiah Land, Edge - Florida A&M (this was my worst pick; not sure he fits here but I loved the ability as a rotational edge rusher in NASCAR fronts)
122: Ronnie Hickman, S - Ohio State
134: Zach Harrison, DE, Ohio State (just couldn't pass on him this late. As a late 4th rounder, he's the kind of gamble worth taking to see if he develops into a 3-down guy).

Didn't get any WR help but also didn't like the way the board fell for me.

I tried a different simulator and got a completely different outcome:

31: Josh Downs, WR - NC (really starting to like him a lot as an X)

63: Luke Musgrave, TE - Oregon State (My favorite 'move TE' prospect in the class)

95: Xavier Hutchinson, WR - Iowa State (can develop into the larger possession WR role we seem to be interested in having around)

122: Zach Harrison, DE - Ohio State

134: Jaren Hall, QB - BYU (This is probably early for a QB2 but his skill-set dovetails so nicely with Mahomes that he could be an ideal QB2 here in that he can step in without the offense needing to change too much)

I think, given the cap problems we're now suddenly having because of the Super Bowl win, I'm changing my tune. The Chiefs are going to have to keep all 12 of their picks.

I also think, given revelations that they tried to trade for Jameson Williams and AJ Brown, that they're committed to going WR first in this draft.

Here's the draft I end up with:

31. WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati -- the Chiefs need a true Z

63. DE Andre Carter II, Army -- going to need a year of Cullen/Clark tutelage

95. OT Blake Freeland, BYU -- a right tackle the team needs, will compete with Niang

122. OG/C Luke Wypler, Ohio State -- OL depth, insurance in case Trey Smith comes in too high next offseason

134. RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma -- a great complement for Pacheco, badly needed depth at RB

168. QB Jaren Hall, BYU -- Andy Reid's favorite program

197. DE Habakkuk Baldonado, Pittsburgh -- was the best DE of the East-West Shrine game

217. DT Keondre Coburn, Texas -- stood out at the Senior Bowl

219. S Brandon Hill, Pittsburgh
227. LB Shaka Heyward, Duke
251. CB Myles Brooks, Louisiana Tech
257. DT Brodric Martin, Western Kentucky

The roster, in my mind's eye:

QB: Mahomes, Buechele, Hall
RB: Pacheco, McKinnon, Gray, Ealy
FB: some dude

WR: Toney, Scott, Valdez-Scantling, Moore, Hardman, Watson
TE: Kelce, Gray, Fortson, Bell

LT: Brown, Niang
LG: Thuney, Wypler
C: Humprey, Wypler
RG: Smith, Kinnard
RT: Niang vs. Freeland

DE: Clark, Carter, Baldonado
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Williams, Coburn, Martin
DE: Karlaftis, Danna

WLB: Gay, Heyward
MLB: Bolton, Chenal
SLB: Chenal, Cochrane

CB: Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Johnson, Brooks
S: Reid, Cook, Bush, Hill

K: Butker
P: Townsend
LS: Winchester

I can dig it. First 3 picks would be great fits, I'm not as familiar with the rest but I like the positional fits.

The more tape i see of Blake Freeland the less I like him against speed rushers to the inside. I think he will be a big project or backup at best.

Man, the PFF draft was tough this morning.

Once again assuming (a.) the Chiefs need to keep all of their draft picks, and (b.) the Chiefs will go WR in the first:

1. WR Kayshon Boutte, LSU -- best WR on the board other than Tyler Scott

2. OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee -- slam dunk 10 year tackle

3. DT Gervon Dexter Sr., Florida -- I remain high on Dexter for now

4. RB Sean Tucker, Syracuse
4. RB Chase Brown, Illinois -- went heavy on RB, but the team will only have Pacheco and Ealy under contract for next year and McKinnon is a ?

5. LB Ventrell Miller, Florida -- LB depth, and insurance in case Gay is unaffordable next year

6. DE Tyler Lacy, Oklahoma State
6. CB Darrell Luter, Jr., South Alabama
6. OG Caleb Chandler, Louisville
7. TE Marshon Ford, Louisville
7. FB Hunter Luepke, North Dakota State
7. QB Max Duggan, TCU

The roster:

QB: Mahomes, Buechele, Duggan
RB: Pacheco, Tucker, Brown
FB: Luepke

WR: Toney, Marques-Valdez, Boutte, Moore, Watson
TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell, Ford

LT: Brown, Niang
LG: Thuney, Chandler
C: Humprey, Reiter
RG: Smith, Kinnard
RT: Wright, Niang

DE: Clark, Herring, Lacy
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Dexter, Williams
DE: Karlaftis, Danna

WLB: Gay, Miller
MLB: Bolton, Chenal
SLB: Chenal, Cochrane

CB: Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Luter
S: Reid, Cook, Bush, Johnson

Well you made up for taking a reach pick in the first by drafting RBs back to back in the 4th.

So that's...something.

Gotta love seeing a draft built strictly around need. Those always go well.

People seem a lot more comfortable with limited picks across the DL than I'd expect. Do people feel OK with what we've got there, or that there are other, bigger priorities? I figured I was pretty much indifferent to D and just wanted to stack weapons and protect Mahomes, but now I feel even I'm swinging for DEs and DTs more than most.

I think it's important to give credit where credit's due, they were the #2 pass rush in the league last year and I think the coaching staff like the DL a lot more than the fanship here at CP.

Just one trade in PFN. I don't think they have updated the ranking for prospects yet. Probably be more accurate after the combine and scouting days.

31.

Anton Harrison
OT Oklahoma
KC
63.

Kayshon Boutte
WR LSU
KC
98.

Calijah Kancey
DT Pittsburgh
trade icon
KC
122.

Nick Hampton
EDGE Appalachian State
KC
134.

Luke Wypler
OC Ohio State
KC
144.

Parker Washington
WR Penn State
trade icon
KC
168.

Brenton Cox Jr.
EDGE Florida
KC
217.

Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville
KC
219.

PJ Mustipher
DT Penn State
KC
227.

DeWayne McBride
RB UAB
KC
251.

Michael Jefferson
WR Louisiana
KC
257.

Jeremy Banks
LB Tennessee

PFF (5 rounds)

1. Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa St.
2. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
3. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota St.
4. Ji'Ayir Brown, S, Penn St.
4. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss
5. Connor Galvin, OT, Baylor

Did PFN today. It gave me all kinds of unrealistic options like Rice in the 2nd, Battle in the 3rd, Tyler Scott in the 5th and Coburn in the 7th.

But you only have one life to live, so I drafted them.

1. DE BJ Ojulari, LSU -- bendy edge rusher

2. WR Rashee Rice, SMU -- mean, competitive X-receiver with gobs of talent

3. S Jordan Battle, Alabama -- day one starter

4. OT Wanya Morris, Oklahoma -- competition at right tackle

4. RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma -- more depth at a sneaky-shallow position

5. WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati -- future pro bowler

6. TE Will Mallory, Miami
6. CB Tiawan Mullen, Indiana
6. DT Moro Ojomo, Texas
7. LB Anfernee Orji, Vanderbilt
7. DT Keondre Coburn, Texas
7. OG TJ Bass, Oregon

The roster:

QB: Mahomes, Trubisky, Buechele
RB: Pacheco, McKinnon, Gray, Ealy
FB: Burton

WR: Toney, Rice, Marques-Valdez, Moore, Scott, Watson
TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell, Mallory

LT: Brown, Niang
LG: Thuney, Bass
C: Humprey, Reiter
RG: Smith, Kinnard
RT: Niang vs. Morris

DE: Clark, Ojulari
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Ojomo, Coburn
DE: Karlaftis, Danna

WLB: Gay, Orji
MLB: Bolton, Chenal
SLB: Chenal, Cochrane

CB: Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Mullen
S: Reid, Battle, Cook, Bush

K: Butker
P: Townsend
LS: Winchester

I green'd up the strong selections here.

Aside from my obvious obsession with Tyler Scott, I will say that Kraft in the 3rd is absurd value. He's basically Dallas Goedert.

Brown is acceptable in the 4th -- the team needs a third safety. Personally, I'd like the Chiefs to get a safety earlier in the draft than the 4th because I'm not as big a believer in Bryan Cook just yet, but I defer to the coaching staff on that one.

Evans is the only pick I don't like in that crew. I think he's going to be out of the NFL in a year or two.

31
Nolan Smith
EDGE | Georgia

63
Mazi Smith
DL | Michigan

95
Zach Harrison
EDGE | Ohio State

122
Blake Freeland
OT | BYU

134
Jonathan Mingo
WR | Mississippi

168
Trey Palmer
WR | Nebraska

197
Ronnie Hickman
S | Ohio State

217
Darrell Luter Jr.
CB | South Alabama

219
Dorian Williams
LB | Tulane

227
Jake Haener
QB | Fresno State

251
Zack Kuntz
TE | Old Dominion

257
Asim Richards
IOL | North Carolina

So, I am an absolute whore for defensive line. I can never get enough.

Going EDGE-DT-EDGE with the first three picks would be my dream come true, but it will never happen.

Brett Veach probably wrote on his mirror with a bar of soap: "WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP PATRICK MAHOMES TODAY"

And there's just no chance he goes two straight days of the NFL Draft without helping Mahomes.

That said........ I'd like to know who else was on the board with your 2nd round pick, but Mazi Smith is enticing.

Nolan Smith, who I did not initially think fit our defense, is starting to get some run with me lately. I can dig that as a first round pick, but ask me again in a week.

Zach Harrison doesn't have a lot of support on this forum, and I'm one of them. I'm just not a fan of the guy, I think he's Tanoh Kpassagnon, and while that's not horrific with a 3rd round pick, I just feel we can get more bang for our buck elsewhere.

I normally like to approach these making some assumptions about FA. In this case I'm expecting Wylie, Hardman, JJSS and Thornhill all to have priced themselves out of a return, and Clark moved on from. So it's another year of churn and burn. But i'm also assuming moves at DE and DT in FA, something like Arden Key or a 1 year flier on Davenport and Greg Gaines at DT or another nose tackle. In other words, there's plenty of needs but DL is not completely bare.

I've then basically tried to have my cake and eat it, and not only fill out areas of need but preempt some future needs and attempt to address them. With that in mind PFF game me the below with loads of trades made (PFF seemed the most realistic but it now seems as fantastical as others so I highly doubt a few of these are available).

38. Andre Carter - DE - I traded back because noone fit. TBH I'm not massively high on what this guy is right now, but the possible upside seems too intriguing to pass up. He isn't ready for a Karlaftis workload year 1, he needs to get stronger and improve against the run, but he can rotate in on obvious passing downs. Year 2 or 3, who knows.

69. Tank Dell - WR - Again I traded back and despite the obvious limitations of being TINY it seemed too good to pass up at this point. He isn't Hardman, he isn't quicker and he's much better latterally. But he CAN do some of what he did and be a gadget guy who offers a little bit more. He gets immediate separation and I've no doubt we'd use him brilliantly.

80. Sydney Brown - S - I think he's a stud. Great athlete, I think he'll have the versatility to thrive even if you have to live with Thornhill-like tackling. He's his natural replacement for me.

88. Nick Herbig - LB - I wanted a coverage LB anticipating Gay perhaps moving on next year, but they just didn't fall. So I took a different route. Some have him as an edge, I honestly don't have a clue what he is aside from being very good. If he offers even average coverage I think he could form the best pass-rush/blitzing LB tandem with Chenal in the league. We now have bend and length, power, and speed rushing the QB.

104. Sam LaPorta- TE - Wasn't intending on a TE but again the value looked too good. This way we improve the TE room as he's a big upgrade on Gray and Fortson, maybe we lighten the load on Kelce a little. Another receiving weapon and YAC monster.

109. Blake Freeland - OT - I don't think he's an NFL tackle year 1, he just needs to get stronger. Given I've not assumed an RT in FA, this leaves us pretty weak at the position, pretty much hoping on Niang or this guy. It might go badly wrong but I think year 2 and beyond he could absolutely be the answer. It seemed worth the risk at this pick.

116. Moro Ojomo - DE - Suspect he goes earlier, again might need a year to season but I think he has huge upside and will be a big upgrade on Saunders and Nnadi.

139. Michael Wilson - WR - Injuries are the concern, otherwise I think he's worth the risk at this point. Senior Bowl releases looked top-notch. I think he's JJSS's replacement as a reliable big body, but with potentially better separation.

168. DeWayne Bridge - RB - Again I was pretty indifferent on RB but seeing him here I jumped.

205. Keaton Mitchell - RB - I think the 1-2-3 punch with Bridge and Pacheco makes this a really dangerous and rounded RB room. People will have to respect the combination of speed, power and shiftiness. I think Mitchell may also be a medium term option to convert to WR.

Traded 31 to Pitt for 32 and their 4th next year. Traded 95 and 168 for 98 and 142 to Cle.

32. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
WR Ohio State

63. Derick Hall
EDGE Auburn

98. Carter Warren
OT Pittsburgh

122. Jaquelin Roy
DT LSU

134. Ricky Stromberg
OC Arkansas

142. Ronnie Hickman
S Ohio State

197. Andrei Iosivas
WR Princeton

217. Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville

219. DeWayne McBride
RB UAB

227. Josh Whyle
TE Cincinnati

251. Lew Nichols III
RB Central Michigan

257. Jeremy Banks
LB Tennessee

2024 PIT 4th

Had another go assuming JJSS is gone but Hardman stays, so speed at WR is less of a dire need. In this case I've prioritised RT more heavily and left less to chance. Again PFF with loads of trades.

36. Andre Carter, DE
63. Matthew Bergeron, OT
84. Sydney Brown, S
123. Moro Ojomo, DT
133. Michael Wilson, WR
136. Karl Brooks, DE/DT
150. Dorian Williams, LB
160. DeWayne McBride, RB
179. Keaton Mitchell, RB
217. Luke Schoonmaker, TE

I liked this one. Semi-realistic to me.

A couple of guys I took in Bell and Green at WR are probably ones I'll talk about in the WR thread later. I like them both on day 3.

I keep getting Foskey and Mazi Smith in the first two rounds on NFL mock draft blitz.

And i keep thinking...yeah, that'd be pretty damned good.

I’m starting to sour on Foskey.

The Combine will be huge for him.

Played around this morning on NFLMock with 5 rounds. Traded out of the 1st. Went with a mixture of BPA and my own biases. Reached on a few. I think I would be happy with this haul. Missed a few needs by overloading on a couple, but...eh i'm good with it.

61 Will McDonald IV EDGE
63 Matthew Bergeron OT
80 Zach Harrison EDGE
81 Andre Carter II EDGE
95 Jayden Reed WR
114 Jaquelin Roy DL
122 Trey Palmer WR
132 Brandon Joseph S
134 Jonathan Mingo WR
168 Emil Ekiyor Jr. IOL

So what I'll say, is that it seems like the talent from like 25-45 is roughly equal. Trading down is a perfectly viable option to me.

But the picks they get better be in 2024, unless the value is too good to pass up. Because this team has 12 picks, and I am increasingly unsure that they Chiefs will have 12 roster slots. I think they'll trade up.

So if you trade down, garner some picks in 2024. We have our original 7 picks there but can always use some additional ammo. (I anticipate we'll get some compensatory picks as well.)

I'm not. Please let him be there. Don't fall for paralysis by analysis.

Does he have length? Check
Does he have athleticism? Check
Does he have power? Check
Does he have some bend? Check
Does he have quality get-off? Check
Does he have a closing burst? Check
Is he productive? Check
Can you move him around to exploit matchups? Check

You can coach his hands and his pass-rush plan.

I like Tuipuloto, Carter, White, & Foskey... who else do you like at DE in the top 2 rounds?

More traditional: VanNess, Foskey, White, Tuipulotu
Size-Dependent: Anudike-Uzomah, McDonald, Ojulari, Hall, and Herbig
Outside looking in: Horton, McGuire

My list will shrink after the Combine answers some questions.

I'd like to consider trading down just from who/what I see in the draft. But I'm just not seeing the Chiefs trading down this year.

No Trades and it turned out okay. We may need to trade a proven commodity for a proven tackle
31. Deonte Banks DB Banks is compared to Sneed. Definitely doesn't look like a need,
63. Nathaniel Dell WR (tiny, but I am confident we would get production from him
95. Karl Brooks DT (This guys size and strength seems like he could spell Jones when he has to come off. I think this will be great value.

He's the kind of guy that I would pass on at 31, but I'd be all over it at 63.

Does he have some tape where it looks like he’s forgotten how to play the position?

I think he’s a quality prospect, but I don’t want to take a guy in the 1st who has to learn how to play football. A guy who needs refinement, I can live with. But this is a fixer upper who needs to floor boards ripped up.

Notably uninterested in Andre Carter, eh? I'm curious what your thoughts are? He's got the size, could use some additional weight, but I thought he looked more like a more an OLB than DE on tape.

I think Harrison might be there in the 4th and if so, I think he's damn near perfect for a rotational DE for us.

In the 3rd I think I agree that I'd find someone else I like more. But by the 4th, I think he's going to be right in our wheelhouse of need/value.

I don't disagree, but I want to know who else at EDGE is on the board in the 4th.

If Isaiah McGuire is, and honestly even if Desjuan Johnson is on the board, I'd be more interested.

Fanspeak down for anybody else?

We'll have to disagree on this one. Obviously, we've both been wrong before (see my infatuation with AJ Epenesa).

I've got him in the 3rd at this point. I love his athleticism and his size but he lacks in two major areas.

He has extremely limited strength and leverage. I think it could be a byproduct of military training instead of football training and what I mean is a large aspect of endurance involved over brute power. Not only does it kill him in the run game but he's not a great speed-to-power or power-to-win type of guy that the NFL needs you to be as a pass rusher. He doesn't have a fast enough get-off to consistently threaten NFL tackles with speed alone, plus he's not going to be going against the likes of UMass, Navy, Air Force, Western Kentucky, Troy, and Georgia Southern tackle quality either.

The other is having the ability to set up a rush plan and use counters and his hands to win matchups. I'm just not sold there. I think he's a phenomenal blank canvas to work with but I think you want a more polished player in the first two rounds.

I think a tertiary problem that he needs to work on is gaining some mass. He might be 250 pounds but he still looks thin. I'd like to see him more in the 275 range. I think that'll help him anchor more too, aside from adding strength. He can do all of these things but its not an overnight deal.

He definitely has the frame to add weight in an NFL strength room. He looks tall and thin out there, reminds me of me back in my playing days lol, and like you say it affects his power. The lack of talent he played against I think will drag him down as well, but I wonder if teams dont like him better as an OLB.

I'm high on Carter, and I think he makes sense at 31. (I think there will be better options there, however.)

But Carter in KC... man. Kccrow isn't wrong but he'd be walking into the best possible situation here. We know that Carter has plenty of tools to work with, and size/strength to improve upon.

I'd love to put him in a locker right next to Frank Clark for the next 8 months. Put Joe Cullen on him, and given his coachability, the sky is the limit with this dude.

Agreed! I'd feel like we got a real steal if he fell to us in the 2nd and he were rotated in as a situational rusher behind F Clark for a year, but I'd question him as a day 1 starter if chosen at #31.

First time farting around with this. No trades, just straight picks at all spots.

31) BJ Ojulari - EDGE, LSU
63) Garrett Williams - Corner, Syracuse
95) Michael Wilson - WR, Stanford
123) Kobie Turner - DL, Wake Forest
133) Isiah McGuire - EDGE, Missouri
168) DeWayne McBride - HB, UAB
178) Luke Haggard - T, Indiana
217) Jadakis Bonds - WR, Hampton
219) Trey Dean III - S, Florida
227) Nick Saldiveri - T, Old Dominion
251) Brandon Hill - S, Pittsburgh
257) Alex Forsyth - C/OG, Oregon

This mock came from the PFF link

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