Midair collision in Wings over Dallas airshow
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: 2 planes, including a B-17 Flying Fortress, collide at Dallas airshow <a href="https://t.co/hdieiJuqvX">pic.twitter.com/hdieiJuqvX</a></p>&mdash; BNO News Live (@BNODesk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1591520040431534086?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DEVELOPING: Disturbing footage emerges showing mid-air collision involving B-17 at Wings Over Dallas air show <a href="https://t.co/QdR22V8cBY">pic.twitter.com/QdR22V8cBY</a></p>&mdash; Intel Point ALERT (@IntelPointAlert) <a href="https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1591522833121021952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just saw this on Twitter. Holy shit.

Looks like it broke apart midair

Frankie just came

Wow, when stuff goes south at airshow it really goes bad.

Do you think they will be ok?

Oh God, no...

WTF was the asshole in the little plane doing?

Think I saw some chutes deploy which pretty incredible for how quick it happened.

Hard to tell what the plane type that hit the B-17 is/was. I hope that wasn't deliberate.

I don't see any.

That was airplane pieces bruh

Yeah the 2nd video is clearer. That was debris I was looking at and it certainly looks deliberate.


Wow

Edit

Doesn't look deliberate. That small plane started banking to the left before the B17 came in to his sights and, due to him being banked, he never had a chance of seeing they were on course to crash into one another. That being said, my guess is the B17 had right of way through that particular stretch and the small plane came in too low or too far right in to it's path.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: More disturbing footage shows mid-air collision at Wings Over Dallas air show; number of injuries still unknown <a href="https://t.co/5WVjoKkbln">pic.twitter.com/5WVjoKkbln</a></p>&mdash; Intel Point ALERT (@IntelPointAlert) <a href="https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1591525803602460675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reddit user claiming that it was a P-63 Kingcobra in the collision with the Flying Fortress

That fits. It wasn't a P-51.

DALLAS (AP) — Two planes have collided and crashed at an air show in Dallas, Texas, the Federal Aviation Administration said Saturday.

Emergency crews were responding to the scene at the Commemorative Air Force Wings Over Dallas show at the Dallas Executive Airport.

The Federal Aviation Administration says a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed around 1:20 p.m. Saturday. Officials said it was unclear how many people were on board both aircraft.

Several videos posted on Twitter showed two aircraft appearing to collide in the air before they both rapidly descended, causing a large fire and plumes of black smoke to billow into the sky.

The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board were launching investigations.

I doubt it was deliberate, but it certainly reminds me of gross negligence like when bikers zoom and weave between slow freeway traffic.

That asshole had the entire sky to work with and he decides to go right where a b17 is.

B-17 doesn't have ejection seats.

Looks like they had two P-63s:

https://www.commemorativeairforce.org/aircraft

Inside job

That's terrible.

Oh man, absolutely terrible

Nice catchup tackle

It was an airshow. It was almost certainly the Commemorative Air Force flying those airplanes. They used to be known as the Confederate Air Force. It was probably during the part of the show where they do their Pearl Harbor portion. (B-17s arrived at Hickam Field in the middle of the attack. They were low on fuel and had to attempt to land.)

Those demonstrations are heavily choreographed and the collision was almost certainly inadvertent. There is no way the pilot of either aircraft would do something like that intentionally. It was almost certainly the fault of the pilot of the smaller aircraft. We'll probably never know exactly why it happened.

There as so few of these old warbirds left and now a B17 was senselessly lost along with the pilots. Pretty soon there will be no flying of these magnificent planes due to carelessness..
Prayers to the pilots families…

Absolutely awful.

Whoever is driving that bi-plane in the bottom right gets a free pass if they pooped their pants.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a>: New angle of the mid-air collision obtained by <a href="https://twitter.com/wfaa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WFAA</a> shows B-17 and other aircraft flying formations at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WingsOverDallas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WingsOverDallas</a> at 1:21p today, when it was hit by a P-63 and fell to the ground over the airfield at Dallas Executive Airport (RBD). <a href="https://t.co/6NAS93b3re">pic.twitter.com/6NAS93b3re</a></p>&mdash; Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely/status/1591541681798668291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Terrible. :(

ReerunKC?

That’s awful. Hopefully there were no fatalities.

Couldn't have struck the 17 any better if it were a guided missile, cut it off at the head... good grief, truly awful on many levels

I volunteered and worked to restore a B29 Super Fortress. The plane is named “Doc” when he came in you could see bullet holes in the fuselage. It was a lot of fun working with some of the old guys that had retired years before.

Where were the tail gunner and top gunner? They had clear shots. Maybe the left waist gunner, too.

Uhhh..you serious Clark? There's no way whoever was inside that B17 is still alive and it's extremely unlikely the one(s) in that smaller plane survived that impact as well. I feel terrible for the families of the deceased having to witness that first hand or video replay.

Yeah. 100% all involved are dead

What a tragedy. Someone wasn’t flying right.

I'm surprised that this doesn't happen more often at these airshows if that video is typical. It seems like they had too many planes in a small area.

That said, the fighter plane doesn't look like it tried to evade at all. It almost makes me wonder if the pilot had a medical thing happen or something. It flew straight into the B17 and never wavered. But then again it was turning, so maybe the pilot was inexperienced or distracted.

Weird situation.

Maybe the Gs got to the pilot and he became disoriented and that caused him to miss his mark.

Yeah, maybe. But unless he did something earlier that last turn didn't seem like an extreme turn. I'm not a pilot, though, so maybe more experienced people can weigh in.

The more I think about it, I bet the fighter pilot got distracted by one of the other planes.

My 12yo and I saw this B17 in St. Joe earlier this year, he bought a shirt.



We also toured Cat O Nine Tails when she was in Topeka a few years ago, just a couple months before it crashed during a tour flight.



:(

He just never saw the B17, it was below his windscreen while he was turning and in his blond spot. Neither one saw the other.

makes me sick

dad was a b17 tailgunner

Those few birds are treasures

:(

You'd hope someone on the ground would radio in and alert the planes. Just a complete failure all the way around.

Mine was a top turret gunner.

Took my daughter to the Garmin show earlier this year and we toured the 17 the was static. It was a thrill for me to take her inside of it and look around, and it's sad that there is one less 17 flying. IIRC, Liberty Belle burned up on the ground a couple of years ago. These planes are becoming scarce.

How many have we lost since the movie Memphis belle. Seems like there was 6 for that movie

that's terrible

Not sure of that answer, but there were eight that were still airworthy. Seven after today, obviously.

https://airplanes-online.com/b17-fly...g-aircraft.htm

Thoughts and Prayers to all involved.
Terrible tragedy.

My FIL was a Tail gunner on a B17.....
He had some stories....But always talked about
how great those planes were.

I said hopefully. But yeah. It looks bad. I don’t see any way a dude can survive that. But weird shit happens sometimes.

Up to now I hadn’t considered the possibility they could have been giving rides in the B17. That looked like a formation so hopefully not additional fatalities.

Alert them to what exactly? Communications are not instantaneous. They also draw your attention away from flying the aircraft.

Those aircraft were flying in proximity to one another because it was an airshow. The mistake was that one of the pilots did not fly his aircraft exactly when/where he was supposed to do. However, they were supposed to be near one another.

Wow, really terrible. RIP

in some videos of the collision you can see what i can only assume is body matter splattering from the impact.

JFC.. You can’t tell that from any video..

They've confirmed 6 dead now. So I assume that means 5 people were in the bomber, unless someone on the ground got struck by some debris.

Local news here said no injuries to anyone on the ground

So few of those left, tragic.

Might need to go beyond taking volunteers for these kind of events.

Oh, it's just so tragic....damn it.